Overproduction Of Adrenalin Caused By Stress/worry/anxiety. Now How To Fix?

[Runenight201]

What’s your diet looking like?

 

[edd00]

What’s your diet looking like?

Peaty.
Milk
Eggs
Gelatin
Sodium bicarbonate
Chocolate
Ice cream
Juice
Potatoes
Salting everything heavily (iodized)

 

[Captain_Coconut]

Do you get enough magnesium? What about liver? All the B vitamins?

 

[edd00]

Do you get enough magnesium? What about liver? All the B vitamins? Proper sleep?

I eat one big liver serving once a week (too much bad for thyroid)

I have Energin and Magoil from Haidut

Sleep is the issue. I notice that when I get like this my sleep suffers. Like I want to sleep and have good sleep hygiene (I even wear blue light filtering glasses after 8 pm) but I always end up waking up sometime between 5 and 7 NO MATTER WHEN I GO TO SLEEP. SO FRUSTRATING!

And I know I am recovering if I start to sleep past 7 am... Anyways need to figure out how to improve my sleep I guess...

 

[cyclops]

Baking Soda, Cyproheptadine, and Aspirin.

These 3 will kill your stress response.

Do you find baking soda has that much benefit over salt?

Sleep is the issue. I notice that when I get like this my sleep suffers. Like I want to sleep and have good sleep hygiene (I even wear blue light filtering glasses after 8 pm) but I always end up waking up sometime between 5 and 7 NO MATTER WHEN I GO TO SLEEP. SO FRUSTRATING!

Maybe go to bed around 9 or 10 then?

 

[edd00]

Do you find baking soda has that much benefit over salt?



Maybe go to bed around 9 or 10 then?

Not really possible I can't actually fall asleep before 11:00 just doesn't work

 

[Alpha]

Do you find baking soda has that much benefit over salt?

You don't want to overdo the chloride, and the alkaline benefits from bicarbonate shuts down the stress response.

 

[edd00]

You don't want to overdo the chloride, and the alkaline benefits from bicarbonate shuts down the stress response.

how much bicarb can I have in one day?

 

[Alpha]

how much bicarb can I have in one day?

Your body balances it out, but typically not more than 1 tsp of sodium bicarbonate a day.

 

[edd00]

Your body balances it out, but typically not more than 1 tsp of sodium bicarbonate a day.

I already do that in the morning 1 tsp mixed with 10g gelatin so that the gelatin absorbs the co2 better

 

[Rafael Lao Wai]

I already do that in the morning 1 tsp mixed with 10g gelatin so that the gelatin absorbs the co2 better

Have you tried high dose niacinamide?What about taurine? These are the most importante supplements for me to sleep well.

 

[edd00]

Have you tried high dose niacinamide?What about taurine? These are the most importante supplements for me to sleep well.

Ok I will try, I do take the energin complex for B vitamins. Will the extra niacinamide throw off the balance for B vitamins?

 

[methylenewhite]

I have suffered from having trouble relaxing. I found GABA and skullcap supplements to be the most helpful thing for this. I have tried a lot of things to de-stress and this combo more so than anything really is the most effective I have found. Thiamine in large doses is also very helpful, as well as small doses of lithium.

What does of thiamine do you consider to be large enough? Sorry if its already been asked by someone.

 

[Rafael Lao Wai]

Ok I think I am pretty sure I have nailed what has been ailing me. I have some stressful times in my life and I chronically OVERREACT to nearly everything.

I was sleeping better for the first time in a long time a few weeks ago but then something very stressful happened. I was triggered by reading some article and it made me go back into old destructive thoughts. (I wont go into them here but they bother me a lot, just some personal demons)

I spent that one week essentially worrying myself sick. I barely ate, especially in the mornings (no appetite) so I am sure my blood sugar was a mess (which released more Adrenalin). I was researching on the COMPUTER CONSTANTLY about fixing this "problem" I had (essentially was in my head) . In one way I am thankful I was triggered because that one week I finally figured it out (I am happy to say I consider myself "normal" now. But the damage has been done. My eye twitches regularly now, I cant sleep normally, I always wake up between 6:00-7:00 am (no matter when I go to sleep) and I generally wake up a few times a night before then and I feel "skittish" and have a hard time relaxing normally

This type of thing has happened to me before, I worried about nearly the same thing a few years ago (and on top of that it was a hard time in school as I was in danger of failing out) my sleep was crap ever since. PEATING SAVED ME, but when I was caught in the most recent whirlwind of worry I was not peating... so now I am back to where I was

I am pretty sure I just over excreted adrenaline (or maybe some other hormones too??) and now I am feeling the residual effects of now I don't know how to balance them back...


So my question is: Now that I have conquered my demons, How do I get my metabolism/adrenaline levels back to normal? How can I do this to stop the twitch in my eye, stop feeling so skittish, and have a good deep sleep?

Thank you all!!!

Also, about the problem you faced being in your head, usually for me, when I think I have a problem, it's always because I really have one. Many people get this backwards. For example, if their stomach hurts, they think they have anxiety( "it's in their head"), but it is much more likely that what is causing their stomach to be upset is also causing them to feel anxious. So it's more useful to see the mind as part of the body, so one entity. Just because something is in your head, it doesn't mean it isn't real. Worrying too much about things, in my experience, has to do with your childhood experiences( which I see as a physical adaptation to a bad environment). If, as a child, your parents or friends didn't believe you when you said something, or if your parentes asked you "are you really sure?" too many times and put you under pressure and you couldn't handle the stress of potentially ruining a situation because you believed in yourself, then that child will probably have OCD and worry too much about things. But this is just as serious as a "physical" disease, like arthritis. I would say it's similar to PTSD. I noticed that I get more OCD symptoms when using and doing things that relax me( laying in my bed, playing video-games, even relaxing substances). I realized this has to do with the way I was raised. My parents were and still are very stressed and are always asking each other "are you sure?". Also, they were always stressing me out when I was a child. Just when I was relaxing they would ask something very stressful, such as "are you sure you did well in that test?" or "don't you have to study anything?" or "you didn't forget that we are going to that place in 3 hours from now, did you?" and I still carry that worry patern as a consequence. So when I'm almost relaxing, the intrusive thoughts initially appear, but if I'm well energised and well-fed, if I ignore it and think "If I have something to do now, it's fine to skip it this time", I pretty much always manage to relax. Sometimes I fail, but it isn't very bad anymore. The worry just lasts a few seconds and I can get back to relaxing. The reason relaxing things increase OCD symptoms is, in my view, because they increase the opportunities that you have for relaxing, so that may make you think "is there really nothing I need to do?" more often.So I guess what I'm trying to say is if you are in your way to relaxing and think that maybe you forgot to do something, just let it go( easier said then done, but with practice, you can do it), even if it's something potentially important. Changing a maladaptation takes time, but can be done.

 

[Ella]

I always end up waking up sometime between 5 and 7 NO MATTER WHEN I GO TO SLEEP. SO FRUSTRATING!

And I know I am recovering if I start to sleep past 7 am... Anyways need to figure out how to improve my sleep I guess...

Waking up between 5 & 7 is what is supposed to happen because this is when cortisol starts rising to wake you up for the day. I would not consider this as something to fix. Don't go fixing what ain't broke.

When you sleep past 7am is when you should start worrying, as it means something is off with your adrenals and if you can't get out of bed until after 9am; you are not producing sufficient cortisol and your adrenals need help where OJ + salt helps. If this is your situation, then I caution against cortisol reducing strategies.

You should be concerned about your sleep when you wake between 2 - 3am, or waking every couple of hours after falling asleep. If you manage to stay asleep from the time you head hits the pillow to 5am - well that's a blessing not a problem.

I would work on getting to bed earlier, it does not work for many I know, (myself included) but if you wake consistently between 5 - 7, it does not need to be fixed regardless of what time you go to bed. It is a healthy sign and be grateful.

 

[Hairfedup]

Felt/feel the exact same way. No porn or ejaculation is absolutely imperative. If you're a male that is lol

 

[Rafael Lao Wai]

Ok I will try, I do take the energin complex for B vitamins. Will the extra niacinamide throw off the balance for B vitamins?

I don't know. I do know that niacinamide can reduce blood levels of phosphate, but you seem to be consuming a good amounts of phosphorus( milk is a big source of it), so I don't think it will cause too low blood levels of it.

 

[Ella]

I would consider calcium rich foods over lithium. If you have problems relaxing then calcium needs to be improved. Many are simply not getting sufficient calcium in the diet. This is why I include: milk, ice-cream, cheese, leafy greens, fruits and plenty of sunshine.

If you are deficient in lithium then your diet is poor in fruits, vegetables, legumes, grains, dairy and shellfish - basically poor diet overall. If you've taken out legumes and grains which are rich sources of lithium then you need to increase the other food groups to increase lithium intake. A good mineral water is rich in lithium.

Low levels of lithium are found in children suffering from learning disabilities, incarcerated violent criminals and autism. So how to fix; the condition or the poor diet which creates the condition?

More importantly:

Lithium administration leads to the inhibition of thyroid hormone synthesis and subsequent release, resulting in hypothyroidism. Hyperthyroidism is less commonly manifested, which can mask symptoms of lithium toxicity and boost its toxicity by prompting cellular unresponsiveness and altered renal tubular handling of lithium.

If you supplement with lithium, you need to do so under the guidance of your health profession; keeping a close eye on thyroid function. Check your lithium levels by doing a hair mineral tissue analysis, optimise the diet and see what happens. You should not supplement if you don't know your status and if you do supplement; you need to be monitored.

Fix the diet first as it is not hard to get all the lithium you need but you may find it harder to get rid off, depending on your health status.

Lithium Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[edd00]

I would consider calcium rich foods over lithium. If you have problems relaxing then calcium needs to be improved. Many are simply not getting sufficient calcium in the diet. This is why I include: milk, ice-cream, cheese, leafy greens, fruits and plenty of sunshine.

If you are deficient in lithium then your diet is poor in fruits, vegetables, legumes, grains, dairy and shellfish - basically poor diet overall. If you've taken out legumes and grains which are rich sources of lithium then you need to increase the other food groups to increase lithium intake. A good mineral water is rich in lithium.

Low levels of lithium are found in children suffering from learning disabilities, incarcerated violent criminals and autism. So how to fix; the condition or the poor diet which creates the condition?

More importantly:

Lithium administration leads to the inhibition of thyroid hormone synthesis and subsequent release, resulting in hypothyroidism. Hyperthyroidism is less commonly manifested, which can mask symptoms of lithium toxicity and boost its toxicity by prompting cellular unresponsiveness and altered renal tubular handling of lithium.

If you supplement with lithium, you need to do so under the guidance of your health profession; keeping a close eye on thyroid function. Check your lithium levels by doing a hair mineral tissue analysis, optimise the diet and see what happens. You should not supplement if you don't know your status and if you do supplement; you need to be monitored.

Fix the diet first as it is not hard to get all the lithium you need but you may find it harder to get rid off, depending on your health status.

Lithium Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

Thanks you! I will check that out!! More leafy greens. I don't really do them bc they're not peaty but I'll try them out. I did always like them cooked

 

[edd00]

I don't know. I do know that niacinamide can reduce blood levels of phosphate, but you seem to be consuming a good amounts of phosphorus( milk is a big source of it), so I don't think it will cause too low blood levels of it.

Got it tuanks