Orthodontics & Teeth Replacement?

[Waynish]

I have relatively straight teeth, but my bite hasn't been good every since it was offset by orthodontics as a teen. I have a fake tooth using a bridge, but eventually want to get a real one, which is much more durable.
1) Teeth can't be re-aligned after dental implants - so I think I should re-align them first. Thoughts?
2) Optimal teeth replacement? The implants themselves can be zirconia (but they're not as durable as titanium). Thoughts on optimal materials? I don't see anyone regrowing human teeth with stem cells yet.
3) Usually a bit of bone grafting requirements for an implant. Thoughts on grafting safety/methods?

Mike Mew - who runs orthotropics.com - seems like he takes biomechanics (like breathing) into account when moving teeth around, so that seems safest. However, it is hard to understand the kind of quality control we get as patients from different orthotropic specialists.

 

[Queequeg]

I think you are better off with a bridge. It has been shown that anything implanted into bone such as titanium can result in an auto-immune disorder. Here is a link that may be helpful. Dr Hal Huggins was one of the leading dentists who warned about implants and root canals and was viciously attacked by the ADA.
What You Need to Know about Root Canals & Dental Implants - Gary M. Verigin, DDS, inc.
Dr. Hal Huggins - Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Dental Implants, Cavitations, Root Canals, Mercury Fillings and More: Dr. Huggins Answers All Your Questions - August 5, 2014 - One Radio Network

 

[Waynish]

The implant itself can be zirconia. If this thwarts autoimmune issues, then it is definitely superior to a bridge. Bridges serve well for a long time - and still serve me now. However, they change the bit pattern because one avoids chewing on them due to fragility (cost of replacement, time of replacement, embarrassment of not having a tooth for a while, etc). When putting in a bridge, dentists re-structure the bite such that pressure is put off of the fake tooth - and this create asymmetries. Another problem with a bridge is each replacement costs a little of the surrounding teeth. I don't know how long it will take, but eventually those teeth will need to be filed down more and artificially built up.
I'm curious about your thoughts - and if I have anything wrong...

 

[beachbum]

If you get a bridge you would have to sacrifice the opposing teeth, meaning they would be prepped for the crown. Just google how a dental bridge is made.

 

[Waynish]

I've a minimal bridge that has been replaced many times. Adjacent teeth are used, but not sacrificed. Holes are drilled into them, but not very far into them. There are several types of bridges, though.

 

[beachbum]

What I meant by sacrificed is they usually use healthly teeth that need to be prepped down or just prepped in anyway, just touching them with a drill prepping down or drilling a hole it is still sacrificed. If you have one missing tooth and don't want an implant or touch healthy opposing teeth you can look into a removable appliance unless that is what said you have.

 

[Whiteheart]

I am glad this thread came up; I recently chipped one of my top front teeth and have been putting off having a cap put on it as I am not too keen on getting the inevitable x ray that is a part that kind of dental care. I called around in my area and pretty much all the dentist offices say that it is absolutely necessary to get an x ray (for liabilities sake no doubt). I suppose I'll just have to hope dmso can protect me from the radiation :)
Does anyone possibly have any advice for going about having protecting from x rays, or alternatives to x rays?

 

[beachbum]

Go to one that uses digital x-rays for starters.

 

[Whiteheart]

Go to one that uses digital x-rays for starters.

Thank you I will certainly look into that

 

[beachbum]

Yeah digital is 70% less exposure.

 

[Waynish]

There are a bunch of discussions suggesting that zirconia implants allow us to avoid autoimmunity risk that the titanium ones supposedly pose (including thyroid-related autoimmune). However, I'm looking for some sort of confirmation that that is true. The downside to zirconia is it isn't as strong as titanium, so the implant need to be a bit biggest / there usually needs to be more material to implant into (so grafting is required).

Anyone know any experts / quality studies on this?

 

[Queequeg]

Dr Huggins has said that anything implanted into bone can cause an autoimmune reaction. Zirconia seems to be much better than titanium but I would really research it before I took that chance.

 

[Waynish]

Ya posting here as part of my research since I couldn't find much on the safety of zirconia - or the mechanism behind "auto-immune" via implantation (which RP doesn't really believe in?)...

 

[Apple]

Ya posting here as part of my research since I couldn't find much on the safety of zirconia - or the mechanism behind "auto-immune" via implantation (which RP doesn't really believe in?)...

hi, what 's your verdict on zirconia implants vs titanium?
Did RP really say that he didn't believe in "auto-immune" reaction via implantation?

 

[Waynish]

hi, what 's your verdict on zirconia implants vs titanium?
Did RP really say that he didn't believe in "auto-immune" reaction via implantation?

I've not found any reliable dental information from any sources yet. They all self-contradict and seem to misunderstand the optimal way to regenerate teeth, which is more optimal than surgery. Whomever is the best at the prior would be the best at the latter, anyway.

 

[johnwester130]

I have relatively straight teeth, but my bite hasn't been good every since it was offset by orthodontics as a teen. I have a fake tooth using a bridge, but eventually want to get a real one, which is much more durable.
1) Teeth can't be re-aligned after dental implants - so I think I should re-align them first. Thoughts?
2) Optimal teeth replacement? The implants themselves can be zirconia (but they're not as durable as titanium). Thoughts on optimal materials? I don't see anyone regrowing human teeth with stem cells yet.
3) Usually a bit of bone grafting requirements for an implant. Thoughts on grafting safety/methods?

Mike Mew - who runs orthotropics.com - seems like he takes biomechanics (like breathing) into account when moving teeth around, so that seems safest. However, it is hard to understand the kind of quality control we get as patients from different orthotropic specialists.

I still think ceramic implants are safe to use

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