Optimal Dose Of Pregnenolone For Androgen Synthesis

[goodandevil]

fwiw: Have you read this article on Peat's thoughts regarding DHEA? Looks like the article was last updated 2006, so I'm not sure if his position on DHEA has changed since:

Pregnenolone - A Fruit Of Cholesterol (see WARNINGS ON DHEA)

That's an interesting article! thanks for this little gem, interesting to hear his personal victories. yeah i think he's cautious because he doesn't want people to sprinkle dhea on tbeir food just because he said it's good. presuming adequate thyroid function, going by temperature and pulse, i would definitely have your huband try it at 5mgs in coconut oil or mct. having it in oil forces it to through a different metabolic route, i thinm through hepatocytes but correct me if im wrong @haidut. I would definitely NOT do a weekly dose of dhea, just small amounts frequently.

 

[Agent207]

Personally I don't mind for the slower shipping... they offer a quality rarely seen on most mainstream supplement markets and and priced accordly in my opinion, for me that's the most important. For cheap common stuff there's plenty of sites.

As for the preg well, for me 20mg 6x/week and taking some break here and then, is more than enough.

 

[TubZy]

They're well priced for a monopoly. he has good pregnenolone, im thankful for thayt, but his products are expensive and his shipping is very slow. Like many marketers, he makes an advertisement out of these deficiencies. 5grMs at 300 mgs/week would be four months and that's a low dose of pregnenolone. maybe @Dan Wich can find a cheaper, clean version. i've heard another brand name being bandied about.

Yes, shipping is extremely slow they even messed up my order twice along with credit card issues. He ended up calling me and apologized and was cool about it just the shipping time and processing time is ridiculous. Took weeks for the product to ship.

 

[Kray]

Great, thanks for the tips on taking DHEA. I'll consider adding that to his regimen.

 

[moss]

Yes, shipping is extremely slow they even messed up my order twice along with credit card issues. He ended up calling me and apologized and was cool about it just the shipping time and processing time is ridiculous. Took weeks for the product to ship.

In defense of Heathnatura, I have had no problems with payments, nor shipping - usually takes around 10 days or so (in Oz). I have used Pregnenolone, Vit K and Progesterone and all have been good clean products.

 

[goodandevil]

Yes, shipping is extremely slow they even messed up my order twice along with credit card issues. He ended up calling me and apologized and was cool about it just the shipping time and processing time is ridiculous. Took weeks for the product to ship.

Maybe we can find a cheaper source, or better yet a buyer's club. a few people on here have asked for that from time to time maybe we should make it happen. @haidut probably gets clean pregnenolone in bulk maybe he should offer it just so people can afford to get more clean pregnenolone. It would just be cool if more people could afford to use decent preparations of this hormone ray loves so much.

 

[haidut]

That's an interesting article! thanks for this little gem, interesting to hear his personal victories. yeah i think he's cautious because he doesn't want people to sprinkle dhea on tbeir food just because he said it's good. presuming adequate thyroid function, going by temperature and pulse, i would definitely have your huband try it at 5mgs in coconut oil or mct. having it in oil forces it to through a different metabolic route, i thinm through hepatocytes but correct me if im wrong @haidut. I would definitely NOT do a weekly dose of dhea, just small amounts frequently.

Yes, small daily doses of DHEA are the way to go. Dissolved in oil or taken with some butter/MCT/olive oil. Large doses have direct estrogenic effects and preferentially convert to estrone as well. Smaller doses favor the DHT pathway.

 

[Makrosky]

I think what a man wants to achieve as his personal state of health (body, mind, emotions) , what he perceives as doing great may not be the same for all . For example sexuality could be perceived differently in Peat's eyes from the eyes of a young lad raised watching porn and partying, physical health could be perceived differently between Peat and a bodybuilder.

Absolutely. +1 for this comment.

 

[Dan W]

maybe @Dan Wich can find a cheaper, clean version.

The only one I've heard of (at least of those that seem to respond to questions) is Peter at Vitaspace who can do bulk orders. I haven't looked into his stuff, but I think @charlie was happy with one of his products. And I think he (or someone else?) was able to get some analysis on the product by placing an order.

It looks like it's ~40% cheaper than Health Natura if you're willing to get 100g. Although I remember there being a Health Natura coupon that cut the cost when last I ordered.

For what it's worth I've always gotten my Health Natura orders quickly. Maybe not Haidut-fast (a man who obviously lives inside a post office), but shipped within a couple days.

i've heard another brand name being bandied about.

Is it SmartPowders? It's been a few years, but I think I had trouble getting much info from them.

 

[haidut]

Haidut-fast (a man who obviously lives inside a post office)

Or has an office building attached to a post office :) Either way, I take it as a high compliment! Thanks.

 

[goodandevil]

The only one I've heard of (at least of those that seem to respond to questions) is Peter at Vitaspace who can do bulk orders. I haven't looked into his stuff, but I think @charlie was happy with one of his products. And I think he (or someone else?) was able to get some analysis on the product by placing an order.

It looks like it's ~40% cheaper than Health Natura if you're willing to get 100g. Although I remember there being a Health Natura coupon that cut the cost when last I ordered.

For what it's worth I've always gotten my Health Natura orders quickly. Maybe not Haidut-fast (a man who obviously lives inside a post office), but shipped within a couple days.


Is it SmartPowders? It's been a few years, but I think I had trouble getting much info from them.

Ooh don't think it's smart powders; unfortunately i cant remember the name. The vitaspace link is very good, especially with the COA. I'll order from them next time, perhaps we can even form a buyer's club to get this pregnenolone to more people. Thanks for the info and the chuckle dan

 

[sladerunner69]

Yes; I apply 2 drops on my balls three times per day for a total of 6 drops (3 mg DHEA and 3 mg pregnenolone).

Now that's interesting @DaveFoster... quite interesting indeed.

You had stated before that you dropped your preg dosage drom 100-150 down to 30mg- or "3mg/dmso". Safe to assume this is your recognition of the 10x potency effect that dmso has as a carrier of steroids.

Therefore, I can only but assume, you are aware that 3mg of dhea should be around 30mg oral. The physiological dose is about 10-15mg!! You are a crazed maniac to use such heavy dosages of that substance! A madman I say!

Also did you mean you took 3mg preg/dmso on top of pansterone, so 6mg preg/dmso daily? Or just the 3mg in your pannysterry?

Personally I cant handle more than a single drop of pansterone at a time, due to the dhea...

 

[DaveFoster]

Now that's interesting @DaveFoster... quite interesting indeed.

You had stated before that you dropped your preg dosage drom 100-150 down to 30mg- or "3mg/dmso". Safe to assume this is your recognition of the 10x potency effect that dmso has as a carrier of steroids.

Therefore, I can only but assume, you are aware that 3mg of dhea should be around 30mg oral. The physiological dose is about 10-15mg!! You are a crazed maniac to use such heavy dosages of that substance! A madman I say!

Also did you mean you took 3mg preg/dmso on top of pansterone, so 6mg preg/dmso daily? Or just the 3mg in your pannysterry?

Personally I cant handle more than a single drop of pansterone at a time, due to the dhea...

I think the preferential conversion of DHEA into androgens via topical application raises the ceiling above 15 mg, not to mention any additional effect from applying directly on the testes (Leydig cells.)

Also, it's not necessarily 10x potentiation, but that's the most conservative estimate.

 

[sladerunner69]

I think the preferential conversion of DHEA into androgens via topical application raises the ceiling above 15 mg, not to mention any additional effect from applying directly on the testes (Leydig cells.)

Also, it's not necessarily 10x potentiation, but that's the most conservative estimate.

I see now, thanks for your explanation. Will keep for my records.

So you jsut take pansterone no additional pregnenlone??

 

[DaveFoster]

I see now, thanks for your explanation. Will keep for my records.

So you jsut take pansterone no additional pregnenlone??

I was taking 100 mg pregnenolone along with Pansterone, but it's hardly necessary, especially if you're under 50.

Ray thinks that 100 mg pregnenolone/week is enough, so 30 mg/day from Pansterone should be more than enough.

 

[sladerunner69]

I was taking 100 mg pregnenolone along with Pansterone, but it's hardly necessary, especially if you're under 50.

Ray thinks that 100 mg pregnenolone/week is enough, so 30 mg/day from Pansterone should be more than enough.

Under typical cirumstance yeah, you don't need much pregnenlone and I wouldnt take more than 20-30mg daily long term because of the depersonalization effect, but When you are facing post finasteride syndrome I think 100mg or more daily is smart because finasteride has shown to decrease pregnenlone synthesis.

 

[Jsaute21]

As far as dosing, has anyone had success taking preg or specifically stressnon just once a day? Say 5 drops to the testes with a Peatarian breakfast? I would prefer to only use in the morning.

 

[DaveFoster]

To add an anecdote:

The phenomenon of a numb penis from large doses of pregnenolone depends on the context of its administration; in a state of sufficient stress, a high dose of pregnenolone will not produce these effects, but in a state devoid of HPA activation (and without the accompanying upregulated expression of sympathetic hormones), the anesthetizing of the male organ will occur.

As far as dosing, has anyone had success taking preg or specifically stressnon just once a day? Say 5 drops to the testes with a Peatarian breakfast? I would prefer to only use in the morning.

The frequency of dosing depends on your activity. If you exercise, it would be wise to take a dose after the exercise session unless a sufficiently large dose is taken prior to exercising.

 

[TubZy]

Maybe we can find a cheaper source, or better yet a buyer's club. a few people on here have asked for that from time to time maybe we should make it happen. @haidut probably gets clean pregnenolone in bulk maybe he should offer it just so people can afford to get more clean pregnenolone. It would just be cool if more people could afford to use decent preparations of this hormone ray loves so much.

I would be down for that.

Also, super high doses worked extremely well for me. Wouldn't just adding in some DHEA or K2, androsterone etc. negate the strong progesterone effects that high dose preg can cause anyways, if the side effects did become anti androgenic for the person? My skin glows/looks better at higher doses compared to lower doses of preg, another reason why I like higher doses.

 

[firebreather]

@haidut I've taken anywhere between 5 to 10mg of StressNon topically on my scrotum a few times but never noticed anything. I see several people mentioning that they notice results within an hour or 2. Do I need to apply for several days to get results?