One of the best TRT alternatives (natural potent stack)

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They don't have negative feedback loops and can actually help to promote their own synthesis. With this stack, the most important thing is just to keep an eye on your E if free T goes too high.
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Hello @Hans

Thanks for this article!
Just wondering, if someone has had a very bad experience using HCG (6 months) and Proviron (10 days), and has been feeling miserable ever since (even 1.5 years after), would you recommend that stack?
I am currently and have been for a few months cycling herbs (Tongkat, tribulus, cistanche, Muira Puama, Ashwa, Shilajit, ginger, manny more), have been going to the gym 3/week, cold shower every day, Nofap, optimising sleep, and I still can't feel like my old self, I feel constantly inflamed, with no motivation at all and the other usual symptoms as PFS + what feels like low estrogen (joint clicking, leg heaviness, no emotion at all).

I've been on HCG/proviron because I am PFS, FYI.
Before using these pharmaceutics, I had PFS but I could live a life, mainly focused on work, I had energy all day, motivation, pumps in the gym, stamina. Now these are things of the past

Anything you would recommend in addition to that stack? I have ordered Allopreg from idealabs
 

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Drop the proviron, it also works as an AI so no wonder you have low estrogen symptoms.


Try HCG alone first, if not enough add TRT.
 
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Hello @Hans

Thanks for this article!
Just wondering, if someone has had a very bad experience using HCG (6 months) and Proviron (10 days), and has been feeling miserable ever since (even 1.5 years after), would you recommend that stack?
I am currently and have been for a few months cycling herbs (Tongkat, tribulus, cistanche, Muira Puama, Ashwa, Shilajit, ginger, manny more), have been going to the gym 3/week, cold shower every day, Nofap, optimising sleep, and I still can't feel like my old self, I feel constantly inflamed, with no motivation at all and the other usual symptoms as PFS + what feels like low estrogen (joint clicking, leg heaviness, no emotion at all).

I've been on HCG/proviron because I am PFS, FYI.
Before using these pharmaceutics, I had PFS but I could live a life, mainly focused on work, I had energy all day, motivation, pumps in the gym, stamina. Now these are things of the past

Anything you would recommend in addition to that stack? I have ordered Allopreg from idealabs
Have you had any tests done to check where your hormones are at? perhaps you're in a chronic mid-level T, high E2 and low DHT state. Have you optimized your diet for T and DHT maximization?
 

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