OCD Tendencies When Stressed

[kineticz]

Sometimes when I've had a hard week at work or the family is draining my energy, I get these OCD thoughts involving violence and swearing in my head, that I have to suppress to not act out. I don't believe or want to do anything my head is saying, but it seems adamant that these emotional responses are required.


Is there a Peat theory behind OCD? Many studies seem to say that a serotonin DEFICIENCY causes OCD, along with dopamine excess.

 

[answersfound]

Take cytomel.

 

[kineticz]

I'm assuming it's to do with the distribution of neurotransmitters and T3 is the primary signal for telling cells to produce what is needed...

 

[answersfound]

I'm assuming it's to do with the distribution of neurotransmitters and T3 is the primary signal for telling cells to produce what is needed...

I'm not sure. But a combination of pregnenolone and cytomel has been helpful for me.

 

[mujuro]

I find the neurochemical basis for OCD a little shaky. I was on SSRIs for years and it didn't do anything to alleviate it. I had severe OCD from age 14 to 19 (peeling mouth/gums, cracked and bleeding knuckles from brushing and washing, respectively). I used "exposure and response prevention" on myself and my OCD never came back, despite the many ups and downs, on-and-offs with all kinds of medication.

It sounds like what you're experiencing is just intrusive thoughts. I get them as well, usually when I'm experiencing an inner turmoil or when I'm angry at the world for whatever reason. Perhaps you're carrying a lot of unconscious anger.

 

[answersfound]

"Low thyroid hormones, and the common occurrence of sluggish, poorly functioning adrenals, can play a role in a variety of emotional and behavioral symptoms and disturbances, including anxiety, excessive fear, mood swings like bi-polar, rage, irritability, paranoid schizophrenia, confusion, dementia, obsessive/compulsive disorders, and mental aberrations."

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/th ... al-health/

I don't believe it's possible to have OCD with a well functioning thyroid. I wouldn't get caught up in neuro transmitter imbalances, and I'd focus on raising metabolism and everything should sort itself out. If you are low thyroid, you are running on stress hormones, and that is probably why you feel this anger.

 

[answersfound]

I'm assuming it's to do with the distribution of neurotransmitters and T3 is the primary signal for telling cells to produce what is needed...

“Brain cells have more T3 receptors than any other tissues, which means that a proper uptake of thyroid hormone is essential for the brain cells to work properly.”

 

[kineticz]

I definitely have an inner turmoil at the moment. I'm annoyed with not choosing better people to socialise with and experience the world, among other issues.

 

[BingDing]

“Brain cells have more T3 receptors than any other tissues, which means that a proper uptake of thyroid hormone is essential for the brain cells to work properly.”

Looking, where does that come from? Do you have a link to more about it?

Thx

 

[tara]

If I'm aware that I'm stuck in unhelpful thoughts/feelings/behaviour, my checklist includes first checking physical requirements for energy production, esp if I've omitted something from normal routine (similar checklist for threatening migraine, with a few extras), and then considering the wider situation.

1. Blood sugar? Meal or emergency fuel - eg OJ/AJ/dates/chocolate
2. Had sugar, hungry for protein? Meat/egg/fish/shellfish
3. B-vitamins?
4. Chicken neck soup?
5. Minerals? esp magnesium - supplement
6. CO2? Check breathing is nasal, diaphragmatic. Repeated short breath holds or other reduced breathing exercise tends to calm nerves (as long as there is enough fuel).
7. Have I been inside or hunched over kitchen bench or computer too long? Go outside, move, get daylight.
8. Is emotional release needed? Has something actually distressing happened? Have my buttons been pushed more than I can manage at the moment? Find a friend to tell/laugh/cry with.
9. Lonely? Make contact with someone, make a date with a friend.
10. Is there something about the situation that needs to change? Start figuring out a plan to change it, preferably in a way that will be good for all concerned.

I can't say I always notice I'm off track, or remember or have time and energy to implement these, but they seem useful when I do.

 

[kineticz]

Yeh I find it is easy especially when hypothyroid to unconsciously go off track. Hypothyroid and lower dopamine seems to reduce long term rational planning.

 

[HDD]

“Brain cells have more T3 receptors than any other tissues, which means that a proper uptake of thyroid hormone is essential for the brain cells to work properly.”

Looking, where does that come from? Do you have a link to more about it?

Thx

It is from the article from STTM that is linked in lookingforanswers post above. I appreciate the link, lookingforanswers.

 

[answersfound]

“Brain cells have more T3 receptors than any other tissues, which means that a proper uptake of thyroid hormone is essential for the brain cells to work properly.”

Looking, where does that come from? Do you have a link to more about it?

Thx

It is from the article from STTM that is linked in lookingforanswers post above. I appreciate the link, lookingforanswers.

Yes, that site is great. I recently discovered I have Reverse T3 issues and am using Cytomel to clear out the RT3. The RT3 is probably from years of stress, chronic infection, poor diet, etc. I experimented with desiccated thyroid for several months and saw little improvement. The T4 was probably converting to more RT3 because of my low metabolism. I have started to use a lot of pregnenolone in combination with Cytomel and am seeing great improvement in emotional stability, thinking, etc. The first day I took Cytomel it was incredible. I felt this energy radiating throughout my body. That response did not last, however. Cytomel then started to give me a stress response and made me feel awful. After reading the site below I realized that I had a low cortisol issue. It sounds like T3 uses up cortisol to get it into the cell.

http://www.thyroidrt3.com/temperat.htm

STTM recommends hydrocortisone for people with low cortisol, but I believe pregnenolone is a better option because it is what Peat recommends and it achieves the same result. STTM is certainly not completely in line with Ray's philosophy, but the site has some extremely valuable information and is very organized.

So in regards to "OCD tendencies," pregnenolone and Cytomel have been the most helpful for me in my Peat journey.

 

[kineticz]

“Brain cells have more T3 receptors than any other tissues, which means that a proper uptake of thyroid hormone is essential for the brain cells to work properly.”

Looking, where does that come from? Do you have a link to more about it?

Thx

It is from the article from STTM that is linked in lookingforanswers post above. I appreciate the link, lookingforanswers.

Yes, that site is great. I recently discovered I have Reverse T3 issues and am using Cytomel to clear out the RT3. The RT3 is probably from years of stress, chronic infection, poor diet, etc. I experimented with desiccated thyroid for several months and saw little improvement. The T4 was probably converting to more RT3 because of my low metabolism. I have started to use a lot of pregnenolone in combination with Cytomel and am seeing great improvement in emotional stability, thinking, etc. The first day I took Cytomel it was incredible. I felt this energy radiating throughout my body. That response did not last, however. Cytomel then started to give me a stress response and made me feel awful. After reading the site below I realized that I had a low cortisol issue. It sounds like T3 uses up cortisol to get it into the cell.

http://www.thyroidrt3.com/temperat.htm

STTM recommends hydrocortisone for people with low cortisol, but I believe pregnenolone is a better option because it is what Peat recommends and it achieves the same result. STTM is certainly not completely in line with Ray's philosophy, but the site has some extremely valuable information and is very organized.

So in regards to "OCD tendencies," pregnenolone and Cytomel have been the most helpful for me in my Peat journey.

If sugar is used to make cholesterol, have you tried increasing sugar and protein instead of pregnenolone? Also any attempts to antagonise serotonin for better mitochondrial respiration?

 

[Such_Saturation]

I get tics while I eat meat, and it can be the finest steak or three day old liver, it doesn't matter. It has also happened with other unpleasant foods and with boiled potatoes.

 

[Peata]

When I first took Paxil in my mid 20s, I did great on it other than the sexual side effects, which eventually became too much. Anyway, the med took away all my anxiety and ocd. But other times I went back on paxil or other med, it did not have quite as good effect, and the older i got, the less good effect and the worse side effects these ssri's had, until I went off for the last time and stayed off forever.

Therapy helped me too, providing me a way to break the ocd repetitive thought pattern and move on, it's just i can't always convince myself to use it, it just depends.

And yes, stress makes the ocd worse. Even in recent past, on occasion, I'll have a hard time getting out the door, for example, because i'll want to keep checking stove or that door is locked. no matter how much i check it and i KNOW it's oK, there's some part of my brain that won't be convinced of the matter. So then i remember the therapy, and I just get a #%^^ it attitude and think 'what's the worst that can happen, I did all I could do, now i must get in the car and go...' And I do it.

i know when on cyproheptadine, at least higher doses than most here take, i had reduction in anxiety and hair pulling, etc.

 

[arinryan]

My OCD issues (constantly checking for certain license plate combinations on cars, checking my face for cold sores which I never got, and hoarding medication) were when I was taking high-estrogen birth control. It was the worst symptom I had on BCP by far--I was quite a different, really not very sane version of myself. It did go away when I stopped BCP and started being aware of how bad estrogen was. That was about 15 years ago, and it hasn't ever been back for me since then, although I spent many more years being hypothyroid. But taking NDT has helped get rid of more residual anxiety, not as extreme as OCD but glad to be rid of anyway...

 

[khan]

@kineticz Did you find relief from Ocd?Have u tried Inositol?

 

[Jsaute21]

Interesting thread here. I suffer from reasonably severe OCD, and have found that it is ironically correlative with low E2. I personally find that coffee often times makes symptoms far worse for some reason.

 

[James_001]

Magic mushrooms do wonders for my ocd