NY Times Article In 2007 On PCR Testing

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The below article is doing the rounds from 2007, it will probably be scrubbed if it increases in popularity because it doesn’t fit The NY Times drive to cause mass hysterics in 2020.
Interesting the times goes in depth here but doesn’t apply the same lens to covid 19.

Keep in mind it was "experts" behind this outbreak of hysterics, it took 8 months for them to figure they were wrong.:clap

78% of 4500 health care workers were vaccinated, what they were vaccinated for didn’t exist, a small but nice profit earned for big pharma, minuscule in relation to their overall yearly profits but a freebie nonetheless.
The word immunized turned up in this article , I was curious if they will be changing the use of the word vaccine because of its associations and how long before the change comes with covid 19. Remember austerity became fiscal measures.



Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t

Before long, Dr. Kathryn Kirkland, an infectious disease specialist at Dartmouth, had a chilling thought: Could she be seeing the start of a whooping cough epidemic? By late April, other health care workers at the hospital were coughing, and severe, intractable coughing is a whooping cough hallmark. And if it was whooping cough, the epidemic had to be contained immediately because the disease could be deadly to babies in the hospital and could lead to pneumonia in the frail and vulnerable adult patients there.



It was the start of a bizarre episode at the medical center: the story of the epidemic that wasn’t.

For months, nearly everyone involved thought the medical center had had a huge whooping cough outbreak, with extensive ramifications. Nearly 1,000 health care workers at the hospital in Lebanon, N.H., were given a
preliminary test and furloughed from work until their results were in; 142 people, including Dr. Herndon, were told they appeared to have the disease; and thousands were given antibiotics and a vaccine for protection. Hospital beds were taken out of commission, including some in intensive care.

Then, about eight months later, health care workers were dumbfounded to receive an e-mail message from the hospital administration informing them that the whole thing was a false alarm.

Not a single case of whooping cough was confirmed with the definitive test, growing the bacterium, Bordetella pertussis, in the laboratory. Instead, it appears the health care workers probably were afflicted with ordinary respiratory diseases like the common cold.:clap:clap:clap:clap

Now, as they look back on the episode, epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists say the problem was that they placed too much faith in a quick and highly sensitive molecular test that led them astra
y ,
Yet epidemiologists say, one of the most troubling aspects of the pseudo-epidemic is that all the decisions seemed so sensible at the time.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
“Almost everything about the clinical presentation of pertussis, especially early pertussis, is not very specific,” Dr. Kirkland said.

That was the first problem in deciding whether there was an epidemic at Dartmouth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
The second was with P.C.R., the quick test to diagnose the disease, Dr. Kretsinger said.

With pertussis, she said, “there are probably 100 different P.C.R. protocols and methods being used throughout the country,” and it is unclear how often any of them are accurate. “We have had a number of outbreaks where we believe that despite the presence of P.C.R.-positive results, the disease was not pertussis,” Dr. Kretsinger added.

At Dartmouth, when the first suspect pertussis cases emerged and the P.C.R. test showed pertussis, doctors believed it. The results seem completely consistent with the patients’ symptoms.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
"That’s how the whole thing got started,” Dr. Kirkland said. Then the doctors decided to test people who did not have severe coughing.

“Because we had cases we thought were pertussis and because we had vulnerable patients at the hospital, we lowered our threshold,” she said. Anyone who had a cough got a P.C.R. test, and so did anyone with a runny nose who worked with high-risk patients like infants".


That’s how we ended up with 134 suspect cases,” Dr. Kirkland said. And that, she added, was why 1,445 health care workers ended up taking antibiotics and 4,524 health care workers at the hospital, or 72 percent of all the health care workers there, were immunized against whooping cough in a matter of days.:clap:clap:clap



https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
 

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Good link there.

I've talked to quite a few doctors about covid. Only one-an energetic specialist who doesn't give up on his patients so easily and is willing to think beyond his training- thinks it bull****. The rest cannot believe such a huge mistake could be made by doctors.
 

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These old articles are gold, thanks!

This is Dr. Drosten, who developed the current test with Gate's money and is one of our main fearmongerers, in 2014 about PCR testing in the MERS epidemic:
Wie hoch ist die Gefahr einer Ausbreitung der Seuche Mers
Drosten: [on PCR testing] Yes, but the method is so sensitive that it can detect a single genetic molecule. If for example such a pathogen slides along the nasal mucosa of a nurse for just one day without her getting sick or even noticing it, she will suddenly be a MERS-case. Usually only terminally ill people get reported, and now suddenly mild cases and poeple that are completely healthy are counted in the statistics. That's also one explanation for the explosion of cases in Saudi-Arabia. In addition to that the local media stirred this topic up incredibly.

Funny how it's exactly today's situation.
Forbes wrote this article a few years back about a fake WHO pandemic an now they censored it-Archived: Why The WHO Faked A Pandemic - Forbes
Wow, another one gone without a word. Great site btw.
 

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Aaaah. Is it because of this experience you've changed your avatar? :D We all look like this these days :confused:
 

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Good link there.

I've talked to quite a few doctors about covid. Only one-an energetic specialist who doesn't give up on his patients so easily and is willing to think beyond his training- thinks it bull****. The rest cannot believe such a huge mistake could be made by doctors.

Energetic specialist?
 

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Ryan Dawson (look him up if you’re interested in 9/11) was banned today or yesterday for linking to some “anti”-Biden stuff. There’s concerted effort by tech industry to push certain politics. Its so dumb.
 

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Aaaah. Is it because of this experience you've changed your avatar? :D We all look like this these days :confused:
Haha no, I changed my picture before that. But it is how I felt I looked after the experience, covered in feces and totally pissed. No, that's not poop in the picture lol. I guess I don't know what I expected jumping into a blue-check post about how awful Joe Rogan was for letting Alex Jones talk. There were dozens of demands to cancel Rogan over it.
I was probably stupid for expecting anything else. My posts were basically just "provide proof that Alex is wrong" and "vaccines don't always work. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they hurt people. It's a Grey issue". I guess I jumped in the manure pit and complained about getting ***t on me. My point apparently is Twitter is full of human manure pits.
For clarity, when I say I got recommended about 15 democratic politicians, this was direct recommendations from Twitter before I even entered any interests or was even able to post or search for anything. I had given them ZERO info about me and their default setting was to recommend a tidal wave of democrats to me. Truly appalling.
 
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I found this really good article. The scientific understanding on display in it is, dare I say...better than Peat himself? Truly astounding stuff. It has totally opened my eyes. Now I get it. Now I get it.

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This might actually be the worst article I've ever seen:
1. Member of the deep state wrote it
2. They were part of the false-flag anthrax Operation
3. Claiming masks will save us all in a country with one of the highest mask usage rates still struggling with covid because we don't use masks enough. Umm...what?
 
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The good think is we are documenting the mental illness that is woke-ism in real time, future generations will see many different perspectives that we don’t have for previous human issues, the past is written by those with most money, the victors, not so much anymore, all they can do now is use money to amplify themselves above the rest of us, this works in the short term.
 
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These old articles are gold, thanks!

This is Dr. Drosten, who developed the current test with Gate's money and is one of our main fearmongerers, in 2014 about PCR testing in the MERS epidemic:
Wie hoch ist die Gefahr einer Ausbreitung der Seuche Mers
Drosten: [on PCR testing] Yes, but the method is so sensitive that it can detect a single genetic molecule. If for example such a pathogen slides along the nasal mucosa of a nurse for just one day without her getting sick or even noticing it, she will suddenly be a MERS-case. Usually only terminally ill people get reported, and now suddenly mild cases and poeple that are completely healthy are counted in the statistics. That's also one explanation for the explosion of cases in Saudi-Arabia. In addition to that the local media stirred this topic up incredibly.

Funny how it's exactly today's situation.

Wow, another one gone without a word. Great site btw.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me if some folks are being tested in the morgue after expiring, symptoms are of no interest to the covid cult.
 

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You know it wouldn’t surprise me if some folks are being tested in the morgue after expiring, symptoms are of no interest to the covid cult.

They have been ramping those up.

Department of Health Announces New Regulations Requiring Increased and Postmortem COVID-19 and Influenza Testing to Ensure Data Integrity
Department of Health Announces New Regulations Requiring Increased and Postmortem COVID-19 and Influenza Testing to Ensure Data Integrity
ALBANY, N.Y. (August 31, 2020) - The New York State Department of Health today announced that confirmatory COVID-19 and Influenza testing will be required whenever a hospital patient or nursing home resident has a known exposure or symptoms consistent with either disease. Testing must also be performed on any hospital patient or nursing home resident where the person is suspected of having died of such disease, within 48 hours after death, if that individual had not previously received a COVID-19 and influenza test in the 14 days prior to death. This emergency regulation also applies to funeral directors and medical examiners for individuals suspected of having died from either disease, but were not in the care of a hospital or nursing home. This process will ensure integrity in data reporting as the State continues its COVID-19 pandemic response and as we prepare for another flu season.

The emergency regulations can be found here.

Department of Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker said, "While the human toll this virus has taken on New Yorker is immeasurable, these regulations will ensure we have the most accurate death data possible as we continue to manage COVID-19 while preparing for flu season. Good quality health data helps inform good quality public health decisions, and this information will strengthen our contact tracing efforts and slow the spread of this virus."


Yeah, good "quality health data" helps to boost the daily numbers.



Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) – Symptoms
Watch for symptoms
People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:




    • Fever or chills
    • Cough
    • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
    • Fatigue
    • Muscle or body aches
    • Headache
    • New loss of taste or smell
    • Sore throat
    • Congestion or runny nose
    • Nausea or vomiting
    • Diarrhea
This list does not include all possible symptoms.


Any of those symptoms would be enough I guess. And you don't even need to convince or force a deceased person to get tested.
 
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I spoke with a nurse I know today. She was saying how covid is so much worse at the hospital now. I asked her for details. She said her two patients were stroke victims who tested positive for covid, but didn't need any treatment for covid. I was waiting for a grave, nightmare scenario by the way she was talking. I snorted so loud when she told me what her patients are lol. These people will 100% be labeled as "positive cases", "covid hospitalizations" and, if they die, as "covid deaths". How the **** do people not see the problem here??? They're so afraid of coming to grips with the fact that something like this could actually happen on such a scale. Guess what? It's happening. Put on your big boy and big girl pants and let's deal with this obvious truth. Liberals have been co-opted into the biggest conspiracy in human history. They are the Bolsheviks, the Brown Shirts and Black Shirts all rolled into one. I love these people, but they are unwitting soldiers in the army of their enemy.

The Trouble With PCR Tests
 
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The good think is we are documenting the mental illness that is woke-ism in real time, future generations will see many different perspectives that we don’t have for previous human issues, the past is written by those with most money, the victors, not so much anymore, all they can do now is use money to amplify themselves above the rest of us, this works in the short term.
 

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This might actually be the worst article I've ever seen:
1. Member of the deep state wrote it
2. They were part of the false-flag anthrax Operation
3. Claiming masks will save us all in a country with one of the highest mask usage rates still struggling with covid because we don't use masks enough. Umm...what?
Haha point number 3 seriously puts me in stitches, so true :hilarious:
 
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They have been ramping those up.

Department of Health Announces New Regulations Requiring Increased and Postmortem COVID-19 and Influenza Testing to Ensure Data Integrity
Department of Health Announces New Regulations Requiring Increased and Postmortem COVID-19 and Influenza Testing to Ensure Data Integrity
ALBANY, N.Y. (August 31, 2020) - The New York State Department of Health today announced that confirmatory COVID-19 and Influenza testing will be required whenever a hospital patient or nursing home resident has a known exposure or symptoms consistent with either disease. Testing must also be performed on any hospital patient or nursing home resident where the person is suspected of having died of such disease, within 48 hours after death, if that individual had not previously received a COVID-19 and influenza test in the 14 days prior to death. This emergency regulation also applies to funeral directors and medical examiners for individuals suspected of having died from either disease, but were not in the care of a hospital or nursing home. This process will ensure integrity in data reporting as the State continues its COVID-19 pandemic response and as we prepare for another flu season.

The emergency regulations can be found here.

Department of Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker said, "While the human toll this virus has taken on New Yorker is immeasurable, these regulations will ensure we have the most accurate death data possible as we continue to manage COVID-19 while preparing for flu season. Good quality health data helps inform good quality public health decisions, and this information will strengthen our contact tracing efforts and slow the spread of this virus."


Yeah, good "quality health data" helps to boost the daily numbers.



Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) – Symptoms
Watch for symptoms
People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:



    • Fever or chills
    • Cough
    • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
    • Fatigue
    • Muscle or body aches
    • Headache
    • New loss of taste or smell
    • Sore throat
    • Congestion or runny nose
    • Nausea or vomiting
    • Diarrhea
This list does not include all possible symptoms.


Any of those symptoms would be enough I guess. And you don't even need to convince or force a deceased person to get tested.


"Integrity in data reporting" ,they are insane.
It won’t surprise me if they announce social distancing measures for corpses, a husband and wife cannot be buried together because of covid19, but the husband died 10 years ago, nope sorry, new normal.
The deceased will have to be added to contact tracing apps just in case people visiting the graveyard get too close to their grave.

Maybe they will start testing the buried bodies in graveyards next.....#closethegraves
 
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