Normal blood sugar but still diabetic, is it possible?

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Is it possible to have normal blood glucose levels 80-100 after eating, and fasting | Normal A1C below 5.7 and still have blood sugar issues? I am not sure why my body feels so odd and ill if I eat carbs. I was eating them fine before, than bam! Can't have any not even a bell pepper. Forced to eat meat and fat now. Anyone experienced anything like this?

Symptoms: feelin weak, a bit dizzy, overall odd sensation throughout my body it's hard to explain, sort of like a rush. It feels ugly for sure. Brain fog.

Had to add, sometimes at night I can handle some carbs like chayote, onion, and cabbage. But only a few bites. During the day I can't.
 
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Is it possible to have normal blood glucose levels 80-100 after eating, and fasting | Normal A1C below 5.7 and still have blood sugar issues? I am not sure why my body feels so odd and ill if I eat carbs. I was eating them fine before, than bam! Can't have any not even a bell pepper. Forced to eat meat and fat now. Anyone experienced anything like this?

Symptoms: feelin weak, a bit dizzy, overall odd sensation throughout my body it's hard to explain, sort of like a rush. It feels ugly for sure. Brain fog.

Had to add, sometimes at night I can handle some carbs like chayote, onion, and cabbage. But only a few bites. During the day I can't.

You can be harboring a bacteria or fungus that can be causing your symptoms. Here is an example of what I am talking about.....

"Auto-brewery syndrome is a rare, potentially underdiagnosed Trusted Sourcecondition that occurs when an overgrowth of certain types of fungus in the gut convert carbohydrates into alcohol.

Numerous microorganisms live in the gastrointestinal tract. Bacteria make up the vast majority of these organisms, with fungi accounting for less than 0.1%Trusted Source of the microbes inside the average human gut.

Candida, a type of yeast, is the most common fungal speciesTrusted Source in the gut.

Although low concentrations of fungus rarely cause problems, fungal overgrowth can have a significant effect on a person’s health and overall quality of life.

Yeasts and other fungi feed on the sugars and starches in food, which they convert into energy. This process also creates waste in the form of carbon dioxide and ethanol — a type of alcohol."

 
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You can be harboring a bacteria or fungus that can be causing your symptoms. Here is an example of what I am talking about.....

"Auto-brewery syndrome is a rare, potentially underdiagnosed Trusted Sourcecondition that occurs when an overgrowth of certain types of fungus in the gut convert carbohydrates into alcohol.

Numerous microorganisms live in the gastrointestinal tract. Bacteria make up the vast majority of these organisms, with fungi accounting for less than 0.1%Trusted Source of the microbes inside the average human gut.

Candida, a type of yeast, is the most common fungal speciesTrusted Source in the gut.

Although low concentrations of fungus rarely cause problems, fungal overgrowth can have a significant effect on a person’s health and overall quality of life.

Yeasts and other fungi feed on the sugars and starches in food, which they convert into energy. This process also creates waste in the form of carbon dioxide and ethanol — a type of alcohol."

Interested stuff, I will have to look deeper into this. Thank you for you feedback.
 

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Is it possible to have normal blood glucose levels 80-100 after eating, and fasting | Normal A1C below 5.7 and still have blood sugar issues? I am not sure why my body feels so odd and ill if I eat carbs. I was eating them fine before, than bam! Can't have any not even a bell pepper. Forced to eat meat and fat now. Anyone experienced anything like this?

Symptoms: feelin weak, a bit dizzy, overall odd sensation throughout my body it's hard to explain, sort of like a rush. It feels ugly for sure. Brain fog.

Had to add, sometimes at night I can handle some carbs like chayote, onion, and cabbage. But only a few bites. During the day I can't.
Possibly a thiamine deficiency?
 
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Is it possible to have normal blood glucose levels 80-100 after eating

If after eating, this is low.
how long after eating are you measuring?

Have you measured your levels throughout they day?
waking, before a meal, immediately after a meal, 1 hour after a meal, 2 hours after, at bedtime, etc
and also - when you are having the symptoms?

it's helpful when you are more detailed about your symptoms
(for yourself)

it might be hypoglycemia

the rush can be from epinephrine/nor-epinephrine kicking in to bring levels up when they start going down
I tracked this with glucometer and found it to be the case
(before the rush, dropping, after back to their normal 80s level)

some have BG that stays pretty much the same all day and night
unless it starts going down

It might be due to very high circulating stress hormones

so everything that can help you correct that
what happens when you eat fruit> with a little salt, etc
 
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Possibly a thiamine deficiency?
I actually just bought B1 supplement (B1 as hydrochloride / Benfotiamine ( by country life) I will be trying a low dose since one tablet is 4K + % of daily req. I am very reactive to supplements and always need to start low for some reason.
 

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I actually just bought B1 supplement (B1 as hydrochloride / Benfotiamine ( by country life) I will be trying a low dose since one tablet is 4K + % of daily req. I am very reactive to supplements and always need to start low for some reason.
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That product has some less than desirable ingredients (see pic): silica = ground glass and sunflower oil = PUFA. I like to use the pure powder from bulksupplements.com and from purebulk.com. because these have no excipients (added ingredients).

The RDA for thiamine is absurdly low (less than 2mg); the RDA might be enough to keep you breathing.
 
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If after eating, this is low.
how long after eating are you measuring?

Have you measured your levels throughout they day?
waking, before a meal, immediately after a meal, 1 hour after a meal, 2 hours after, at bedtime, etc
and also - when you are having the symptoms?

it's helpful when you are more detailed about your symptoms
(for yourself)

it might be hypoglycemia

the rush can be from epinephrine/nor-epinephrine kicking in to bring levels up when they start going down
I tracked this with glucometer and found it to be the case
(before the rush, dropping, after back to their normal 80s level)

some have BG that stays pretty much the same all day and night
unless it starts going down

It might be due to very high circulating stress hormones

so everything that can help you correct that
what happens when you eat fruit> with a little salt, etc
Yes sorry I have not been functioning very well because of this. Let me be more descriptive.

Symptoms: Super hungry after a meal (this was before and after I was able to handle carbs) Maybe hours after a somewhat balanced meal say chicken soup, ox tail soup. ( veggies included and the fat scraped off from both meal type of meals )

Constant urination, been having to wake up from sleep because of this and also need to wake up to snack. Cold hands, very very irritable I would not hang out with myself when I have not eaten. Grumpy overall, feel better after meals, very reactive to loud noises and bright lights,

Brain fog, not as sharp or witty, really slow to get up in the AM it's like I feel so heavy.

Before all I needed was to eat a nice balanced meal Carb/protein/fat) and I'd feel toasty and good. I am not sure what I did to cause this but I do remember re introducing cereal ( it was some "healthy" Sprouts brand, also ate a little more goodies like gluten free oreos non high fructose. Not sure if that is what could have tanked me but yeah shortly after this change out of not where I can't eve eat potatoes, yams, papaya or other favorite fruits, it's ridiculous. :( Currently stuck on a more protein / fat diet now not by choice, I have an appointment with an endo soon.

Weight: 128ish
Height: 5.8
Male

Thanks for any suggestions guys.
 
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That product has some less than desirable ingredients (see pic): silica = ground glass and sunflower oil = PUFA. I like to use the pure powder from bulksupplements.com and from purebulk.com. because these have no excipients (added ingredients).
The RDA for thiamine is absurdly low (less than 2mg); the RDA might be enough to keep you breathing.
I was not aware of the RDA being low, who comes up with these things.

And ok thanks for the links I do prefer less additives in supplements I will check those two companies.
 
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Have you measured your levels throughout they day?
waking, before a meal, immediately after a meal, 1 hour after a meal, 2 hours after, at bedtime, etc
and also - when you are having the symptoms?


some have BG that stays pretty much the same all day and night
unless it starts going down

It might be due to very high circulating stress hormones

so everything that can help you correct that
what happens when you eat fruit> with a little salt, etc

I have measured before and after and it does not go up by much. This recent meal I was at 92 pre meal and then 97 post. I'd say 30 min to hour after.

When I eat fruit or anything sweet it's like my body rejects it, my body feels this really unpleasant rush throughout my body I am not sure if sugar is being broken down super fast, before this I could only eat fruit with a meal never alone. Adding salt to fruit seemed to help before all this crap happened. But I have never been able to eat fruit on it's for a few years now.

I can't even go more than 2 hours without eating without feeling like my body is tearing itself apart inside, jitters, anger, fear, how the heck am I supposed to take the fasting insulin test for proper diagnosis? :(

Only during sleep can I go maybe 3-4 hours no meal. But the test requires 8 hours fasting, I can't imagine what would happen to me if I did that.
But I measure glucose levels after waking up so 3-4 hour fast and it was 82-83 I think one of those and I was not feeling bad, I felt ok.

I am so puzzled by this new symptom. Isn't fructose supposed to bypass the need for insulin or something like that? :mad:
 
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I have measured before and after and it does not go up by much. This recent meal I was at 92 pre meal and then 97 post. I'd say 30 min to hour after.

When I eat fruit or anything sweet it's like my body rejects it, my body feels this really unpleasant rush throughout my body I am not sure if sugar is being broken down super fast, before this I could only eat fruit with a meal never alone. Adding salt to fruit seemed to help before all this crap happened. But I have never been able to eat fruit on it's for a few years now.

I can't even go more than 2 hours without eating without feeling like my body is tearing itself apart inside, jitters, anger, fear, how the heck am I supposed to take the fasting insulin test for proper diagnosis? :(

Only during sleep can I go maybe 3-4 hours no meal. But the test requires 8 hours fasting, I can't imagine what would happen to me if I did that.
But I measure glucose levels after waking up so 3-4 hour fast and it was 82-83 I think one of those and I was not feeling bad, I felt ok.

I am so puzzled by this new symptom. Isn't fructose supposed to bypass the need for insulin or something like that? :mad:

I had that, the unchanging blood glucose levels.
I did not go to a doctor, and did not do the glucose challenge test.
Precisely because it would be very stressful for my body to do
and because my BG tends to go down in hot weather,
and the inside of those labs is usually pretty cold...
And I got low BG readings on glucometer at home.
And because a doctor, even a specialist, does not know what to do to resolve it

Test during one of those episodes if you can

I don't think this is brought on by a single food that you ate and went wrong etc.
something bigger at work

I like doing the combo of carb+ protein + fat.

It sounds like high stress hormones low thyroid function hypoglycemia etc

track temps and pulse ?

There was not one specific thing I did that got me out of it
It was every concerted effort that led to other things working
that previously had not

Going through all the things that affect thyroid and metabolic and mitochondrial function
D had a remarkable effect on my blood glucose issue,
I did have other things on board by then
hopefully the B1 will get the carbs on board

Also, have you tried eating to satiation, even if it is ungodly amounts of food?
it's surprising (to me) the amount of carbs needed when under stress
to replete glycogen when it has been depleted
and to maintain a good metabolism

I'm still learning.

READ
PEAT!
 
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I had that, the unchanging blood glucose levels.
I did not go to a doctor, and did not do the glucose challenge test.
Precisely because it would be very stressful for my body to do
and because my BG tends to go down in hot weather,
and the inside of those labs is usually pretty cold...
And I got low BG readings on glucometer at home.
And because a doctor, even a specialist, does not know what to do to resolve it

Test during one of those episodes if you can

I don't think this is brought on by a single food that you ate and went wrong etc.
something bigger at work

I like doing the combo of carb+ protein + fat.

It sounds like high stress hormones low thyroid function hypoglycemia etc

track temps and pulse ?

There was not one specific thing I did that got me out of it
It was every concerted effort that led to other things working
that previously had not

Going through all the things that affect thyroid and metabolic and mitochondrial function
D had a remarkable effect on my blood glucose issue,
I did have other things on board by then
hopefully the B1 will get the carbs on board

Also, have you tried eating to satiation, even if it is ungodly amounts of food?
it's surprising (to me) the amount of carbs needed when under stress
to replete glycogen when it has been depleted
and to maintain a good metabolism

I'm still learning.

READ
PEAT!
Thank you for the feedback.

I do recall being low vit D on my test a few months back, did not know it was super important. I will correct that asap. I also have high cholesterol, I forgot which one was high ldl or hdl I have to pull up my results from a few months ago.

I will try to eat more than normal to see how much of a difference it makes. Thanks everyone for chiming in.
 

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