"Nofap" Mechanism

[not_James_Bond]

Dry orgasms, lmao.
Learn how to do it, only $9.99 or $15.99 for the book.
I wouldn't bother, certainly from this site that profits from such nonsense

By the way there is such a thing as quality masturbation, and yes it doesn't involve staring at pixels lmao, as with any sex it's the quality, not the quantity that counts.

 

[Maljam]

Dry orgasms, lmao.
Learn how to do it, only $9.99 or $15.99 for the book.
I wouldn't bother, certainly from this site that profits from such nonsense

By the way there is such a thing as quality masturbation, and yes it doesn't involve staring at pixels lmao, as with any sex it's the quality, not the quantity that counts.

That is exactly the goal of the your brain on porn website (which many in the nofap community fail to notice) A temporary stopping of masturbation (months) Then resuming infrequent but higher quality, due to the resensitisation of the dopamine systems, masturbation sessions, not looking at pornography.

Complete abstinence is fairly abnormal, as with most things in the modern world the issue is with excess and the means of doing it. The main focus should be on stopping though and then following your urges after several months when you can trust your urges again.

 

[Experienced]

That is exactly the goal of the your brain on porn website (which many in the nofap community fail to notice) A temporary stopping of masturbation (months) Then resuming infrequent but higher quality, due to the resensitisation of the dopamine systems, masturbation sessions, not looking at pornography.

Complete abstinence is fairly abnormal, as with most things in the modern world the issue is with excess and the means of doing it. The main focus should be on stopping though and then following your urges after several months when you can trust your urges again.

+1

 

[Highserotonin90]

What would dry orgasm be?

 

[Experienced]

What would dry orgasm be?

Tbh focus on releasing your semen man dry orgasm etc would be painful. Just relax try maintaining your lifestyle , diet you'll eventually quit masturbating

 

[ecstatichamster]

What would dry orgasm be?

in men orgasm and ejaculation are separate. But since puberty we have wired to their being the same. We are not needing to remain wired that way. When you separate the events you can have as many orgasms as you want without the hangover or refractory period. You can choose to ejaculate if you wish. Why not improve in this area like any other?

 

[Connor888]

in men orgasm and ejaculation are separate. But since puberty we have wired to their being the same. We are not needing to remain wired that way. When you separate the events you can have as many orgasms as you want without the hangover or refractory period. You can choose to ejaculate if you wish. Why not improve in this area like any other?

Isn't "dry orgasm" just another word for edging, stopping stimulation right before releasing?

 

[ecstatichamster]

Isn't "dry orgasm" just another word for edging, stopping stimulation right before releasing?

no. You have an orgasm. It’s amazing. No ejaculation. Without the ejaculation you are more energized and can keep going.

 

[Connor888]

no. You have an orgasm. It’s amazing. No ejaculation. Without the ejaculation you are more energized and can keep going.

Ok. I've done semen retention /nofap on and off for awhile but never tried that

 

[ecstatichamster]

Ok. I've done semen retention /nofap on and off for awhile but never tried that

Can’t recommend that book enough

 

[Connor888]

Can’t recommend that book enough

Yeah I will check it out later today and see what its about

 

[ecstatichamster]

If you try to masturbate consciously, you can become aware that you feel the orgasm before you feel the ejaculation. The ejaculation is not part of the orgasm. Now you know that you could actually separate these events. It just takes some practice. I practice with my wife

 

[Experienced]

If you try to masturbate consciously, you can become aware that you feel the orgasm before you feel the ejaculation. The ejaculation is not part of the orgasm. Now you know that you could actually separate these events. It just takes some practice. I practice with my wife

How exactly does it work ? You can just tell us how you get in to that state and not recommending a book to buy or read while you basically can explain us. But further on I agree with you semen retention is the way to go for sure because it's an important mechanism for us males.

 

[yashi]

Going through this thread I am wondering a bit about how some people argue on here. It seems very antagonistic and conflict seeking, instead of trying to get to a higher state of knowledge together. Makes me wonder if people giving advice actually achieved a state of physical and emotional well-being. It certainly doesn't seem like the harmonious vibe I get from Ray Peat.

It also reminds me a bit of this Danny Roddy Anectode (Youtube, Minute 57:30) where he talks a bit about the kinda toxic mentality he used to have when arguing on the internet and how it kinda was paradoxical to give advice on how to achieve healthier states when arguing in a pretty agitated and confrontational way.

(Oh, and don't get me wrong, it's great to have different opinions, but should it really have this feeling of a battle when discussing them?)

 

[rei]

The mechanism is like with any other physiological and perhaps even psychological mechanism. Use it or lose it.

When you abstain from addictive wanking first you will feel energy. Then you will feel excitation, which turns toward aggressivity when going unmet. This will continue until the organism deems reproduction futile in the current environment, and you become eunuch until things change.

 

[Highserotonin90]

I just wanted to understand if it was just a dopamine / prolactin relationship or there was something else ...

In the CFS forum a sick person (30 years old) talks about his experience of almost a year of sexual abstinence (semen retention) and is said to have not cured the disease but at least 50% of his energy / strength has returned. ..

So I think the Taoist theory made sense ... there is a secondary energy but none explains the mechanism of how this energy reaches the blood / brain / organs / tissues / muscles ...

I repeat ... I understand the concept of prolactin and the reward of dopamine ... but this is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[ecstatichamster]

How exactly does it work ? You can just tell us how you get in to that state and not recommending a book to buy or read while you basically can explain us. But further on I agree with you semen retention is the way to go for sure because it's an important mechanism for us males.

you practice masturbating to the PONR almost then completely relax. You begin to experience dry Os. It takes a bit of practice but the space between the PONR and “almost” increases and In This space you get dry orgasms.

 

[Highserotonin90]

you practice masturbating to the PONR almost then completely relax. You begin to experience dry Os. It takes a bit of practice but the space between the PONR and “almost” increases and In This space you get dry orgasms.

I did not understand if you wrote that word specifically wrong ... however it sounds quite complicated as if the situation gets out of hand with a consequent ejaculation.

 

[ecstatichamster]

And by the way, I think it’s prudent to spend as much money as possible on books. Books contain the lifetime learning of a person and you can get that for five dollars or $10. There seems to be hostility in this thread because I recommended that people actually dare purchase a book for $10. I’m just not getting that.

and @yashi very subtle put down of people here on this thread. I don’t appreciate it.

I have noticed the topics around sex, no fap and masturbation typically get very heated everywhere on every forum. Because they are extremely personal and when we suggest a different practice, it comes across to people as a personal attack. That’s just my opinion but sex is very personal and people do take it very personally.

 

[ecstatichamster]

I did not understand if you wrote that word specifically wrong ... however it sounds quite complicated as if the situation gets out of hand with a consequent ejaculation.

it’s very simple. You simply get almost to the edge as close as you can without going over, then you completely and fully relax everything and every muscle in your body. You will often have a dry orgasm at that point. Course in the early days, you will ejaculate which just becomes another learning experience. But as you develop the skill, it will be easier to get right to the edge, and then fully relax and experience dry orgasms. And you can do this during intercourse as well. It is really simple but the book that I suggested explains it better than I am and is outstanding.