No Excess Deaths In Sweden In 2020 Compared To The Last 10 Years

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There was talk earlier in the year how no one was dying from influenza anymore and the rates were so low for it but cov 19 replaced it statistically.
They have ignored all seasonal flu, and called everything Covid which it seems they are doing this now again. See this somewhat dry presentation "Hypothetically Speaking: "Global Coincidences, or Evidence of Deadly Malfeasance?""
 

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Here's a US bombshell: no increased all cause mortality between February and September, per CDC own data.

John Hopkins Researcher: No Excess Deaths from COVID-19; Official Stats Are Misleading, Indicating Misclassification


"the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease."




Deaths Numbers Same As Before Rona | SicEm365:

"Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it's even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020's increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?"
 
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Here's a US bombshell: no increased all cause mortality between February and September, per CDC own data.

John Hopkins Researcher: No Excess Deaths from COVID-19; Official Stats Are Misleading, Indicating Misclassification


"the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease."


Deaths Numbers Same As Before Rona | SicEm365:

"Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it's even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020's increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?"

So 2020 should be around 2,884,800 or so (I rounded) by the end of the year which is close to 30k more than the previous year and perfectly in line with the trend of a slight increase in mortality each year (presumably due to an increase in population, but possibly also due to a pattern of increased age demographics generally).
 

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So, Sweden, USA, France, and probably other countries show no increased total mortality compared to previous years: we might see here a way out of this COVID nightmare by the end of the year.

The COVID vaccine might be a race between manufacturers and epidemiologists, with the former scrambling to obtain market access before the later uncover the global scam.

...
 

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Here's a US bombshell: no increased all cause mortality between February and September, per CDC own data.

John Hopkins Researcher: No Excess Deaths from COVID-19; Official Stats Are Misleading, Indicating Misclassification


"the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease."


Deaths Numbers Same As Before Rona | SicEm365:

"Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it's even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020's increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?"


Any ideas where these numbers came from or if they are legit? When I go to the CDCs website, total deaths are 2,851,262 from Jan 1 - Nov 14. Also, the actual report (below) doesn't explain anything and doesn't seem real. Also, if you go to the John's Hopkins newsletter site, I'm not seeing anything related to this....but maybe I am missing it.... www.jhunewsletter.com

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iO0K75EZAF8dkNDkDmM3L4zNNY0X-Xw5/view
 

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if you go to the John's Hopkins newsletter site, I'm not seeing anything related to this....but maybe I am missing it...

A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

They are retracting the article this 27 November based on a dispute over the notion of total deaths count as opposed to raw deaths count over all causes, which per CDC shows an increase of 300.000 over previous years.

Can't say yet who's right or wrong.

Editor’s Note: After The News-Letter published this article on Nov. 22, it was brought to our attention that our coverage of Genevieve Briand’s presentation “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data” has been used to support dangerous inaccuracies that minimize the impact of the pandemic.

We decided on Nov. 26 to retract this article to stop the spread of misinformation, as we noted on social media. However, it is our responsibility as journalists to provide a historical record. We have chosen to take down the article from our website, but it is available here as a PDF.

In accordance with our standards for transparency, we are sharing with our readers how we came to this decision. The News-Letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication. Our articles and content are not endorsed by the University or the School of Medicine, and our decision to retract this article was made independently.

Briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of COVID-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data published by Hopkins, the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

As assistant director for the Master’s in Applied Economics program at Hopkins, Briand is neither a medical professional nor a disease researcher. At her talk, she herself stated that more research and data are needed to understand the effects of COVID-19 in the U.S.

Briand was quoted in the article as saying, “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers.” This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19. Additionally, Briand presented data of total U.S. deaths in comparison to COVID-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of COVID-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.

Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.

Because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of COVID-19, The News-Letter decided to retract this article. It is our duty as a publication to combat the spread of misinformation and to enhance our fact-checking process. We apologize to our readers.
 

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However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it's even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020's increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?"
It has been discussed for several countries that a slight increase in mortality is due to the fact that the baby boomers generation is dying now.

Look at the graph for the US here:

U.S. Death Rate 1950-2020
 

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A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

They are retracting the article this 27 November based on a dispute over the notion of total deaths count as opposed to raw deaths count over all causes, which per CDC shows an increase of 300.000 over previous years.

Can't say yet who's right or wrong.
It's pretty clear the report is incorrect as they even admit the data is wrong, which is why they didn't publish it. The below data suggests there is excess mortality this year from something..

Total U.S. Mortality from Jan 1 through End of Sept:
2017: 2,100,048
2018: 2,129,649
2019: 2,128,492
2020: 2,433,432
2017-2019 Average: 2,119,396
2020 Excess Mortality through Sept: 314,036

Total U.S. Mortality from Jan 1 through Mid November:
2017: 2,470,155
2018: 2,503,408
2019: 2,509,027
2020: 2,851,262
2017-2019 Average: 2,494,196
2020 Excess Mortality through mid-Nov: 357,065

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It's pretty clear the report is incorrect as they even admit the data is wrong, which is why they didn't publish it. The below data suggests there is excess mortality this year from something..

Total U.S. Mortality from Jan 1 through End of Sept:
2017: 2,100,048
2018: 2,129,649
2019: 2,128,492
2020: 2,433,432
2017-2019 Average: 2,119,396
2020 Excess Mortality through Sept: 314,036

Total U.S. Mortality from Jan 1 through Mid November:
2017: 2,470,155
2018: 2,503,408
2019: 2,509,027
2020: 2,851,262
2017-2019 Average: 2,494,196
2020 Excess Mortality through mid-Nov: 357,065

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Please read @schultz 's post above.
 

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All Cause Mortality During COVID 19 Is Likely Signature Of Mass Homicide By Government Response

Did you see this thread? tldr: researchers argue that the lockdown is killing people, not the virus. My brain is too smooth to evaluate the statistical arguments made there, but Sweden's mortality data supports the main point of the thread.
I did. Am I just supposed to believe everything mentioned in that report vs. all the other evidence that suggests covid has a causative role in excess mortality in the US? Did you see @BingDing first comment on that thread? I also don't claim to know why more people are dying in the US.
 

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I did. His number was based on incorrect data. The original post from burtlancast was completely bogus
I shouldn't have replied to your last post. I didn't want to get involved into a discussion about the numbers in the US. I am more interested in what's going on in Europe. I don't know where your data are coming from. The only figures I could find (regarding the US) are the ones from Michigan. They seem to show more deaths than expected, but you can't extrapolate from there. In case anyone is interested in the link: Monthly Death Counts
 

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I did. Am I just supposed to believe everything mentioned in that report vs. all the other evidence that suggests covid has a causative role in excess mortality in the US? Did you see @BingDing first comment on that thread? I also don't claim to know why more people are dying in the US.
This comment?
"@tankasnowgod I remain of the opinion that you are not very smart, or very honest. The gibberish in the study you first cite is just that, gibberish. It lacks any coherence of thought and fact."

Am I missing something or do you actually consider this an argument? Also, what evidence?
 
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I did. Am I just supposed to believe everything mentioned in that report vs. all the other evidence that suggests covid has a causative role in excess mortality in the US? Did you see @BingDing first comment on that thread? I also don't claim to know why more people are dying in the US.

At least a third (35%+) of those excess deaths in the US are probably NOT caused by COVID-19. And that is the average number across all 50 states. In some states, more than 50% of the excess deaths for 2020 were NOT due to COVID-19, yet nobody has ever brought this up on any major news outlet.
1 in 3 excess deaths in the US not directly caused by COVID-19
"...Healthcare disruption and emotional crises may have led to around a third of the 225,530 “excess deaths” in the United States between March 1 and August 1, 2020, a new study suggests."

"...Between March 1, 2020, and April 25, 2020, a total of 505 059 deaths were reported in the US; 87 001 (95% CI, 86 578-87 423) were excess deaths, of which 56 246 (65%) were attributed to COVID-19. In 14 states, more than 50% of excess deaths were attributed to underlying causes other than COVID-19; these included California (55% of excess deaths) and Texas (64% of excess deaths) (Table). The 5 states with the most COVID-19 deaths experienced large proportional increases in deaths due to nonrespiratory underlying causes, including diabetes (96%), heart diseases (89%), Alzheimer disease (64%), and cerebrovascular diseases (35%) (Figure). New York City experienced the largest increases in nonrespiratory deaths, notably those due to heart disease (398%) and diabetes (356%)."

Table with both COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 excess deaths across states.
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-April 2020
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-July 2020


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I did. Am I just supposed to believe everything mentioned in that report vs. all the other evidence that suggests covid has a causative role in excess mortality in the US? Did you see @BingDing first comment on that thread? I also don't claim to know why more people are dying in the US.

Of course, you are absolutely free to believe what you want, based on the best available evidence.

I am curious, however, what "all the other evidence" you refer to that suggests that COVID could be the cause of excess mortality in the US. You don't have to point to all of it, but I'd be curious what you think the top 3-5 things that convince you that it is.
 

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At least a third (35%+) of those excess deaths in the US are probably NOT caused by COVID-19. And that is the average number across all 50 states. In some states, more than 50% of the excess deaths for 2020 were NOT due to COVID-19, yet nobody has ever brought this up on any major news outlet.
1 in 3 excess deaths in the US not directly caused by COVID-19
"...Healthcare disruption and emotional crises may have led to around a third of the 225,530 “excess deaths” in the United States between March 1 and August 1, 2020, a new study suggests."

"...Between March 1, 2020, and April 25, 2020, a total of 505 059 deaths were reported in the US; 87 001 (95% CI, 86 578-87 423) were excess deaths, of which 56 246 (65%) were attributed to COVID-19. In 14 states, more than 50% of excess deaths were attributed to underlying causes other than COVID-19; these included California (55% of excess deaths) and Texas (64% of excess deaths) (Table). The 5 states with the most COVID-19 deaths experienced large proportional increases in deaths due to nonrespiratory underlying causes, including diabetes (96%), heart diseases (89%), Alzheimer disease (64%), and cerebrovascular diseases (35%) (Figure). New York City experienced the largest increases in nonrespiratory deaths, notably those due to heart disease (398%) and diabetes (356%)."

Table with both COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 excess deaths across states.
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-April 2020
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-July 2020


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This was a very necessary study against the covid cult.
Besides the pro-stress and pro-depression that the lockdown increases through isolation or forced isolation, brainwashing (masks) and economic wreck in most ppl; unnecessarily abusing risky drugs that "combat" covid like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are also probably involved. Even worse is the disastrous medical treatments (oxygen ventilators), principally when most people being harmed, impaired are false-positives.
 
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