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Or, an alternative: Mandatory open and/or conceal carry for every citizen without a felony record. There's a lack of logic in blaming a particular weapon on the primal nature of humans. We're not a peaceful, egalitarian species. We have very violent roots, and at the core of every man is the possibility and the propensity to kill. Taking away certain weapons won't change the nature of mankind. You can take everything away and we would still kill with our bare hands. The greatest evil in this world isn't the actions of wicked men, it's the lack in action of indifferent good men. Besides, on a much less philosophical point, in my country (America) taking the guns, legally speaking, would spark one of the biggest black market trades we've ever seen. Quite possibly even more dangerous than the drug prohibition. Prohibition of any kind is doomed to fail.
Yeah that's a good point, and probably the only reason mainland USA wasn't invaded. Even in California, the gun ownership is off the charts compared to other countries, lol. You basically hit the nail on the head my friend, it's not the guns, but rather the media that is the main culprit behind most of this. I've never in my life, seen a more dishonest and conniving media than the one we have right now.Yes exactly. Cain killed abel with a rock after all. They didn't even have spears or knives/swords back then. BTW at least here in the states, as Japan found out - "You cannot invade mainland USA. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass". Gun confiscation will never happen, if an attempt is made, it may not end well.
The one problem with mainstream media is when a big tragedy happens, it is readily world news and makes it seem like this happens all the time. The fact is you are far more likely to die in a car crash than be murdered by a firearm.
This applies even to the recent 737 aircraft crash. Another horrible tragedy, but the fact is, even flying in the specific 737 that crashed not once but twice in a 6 month span is still safer than driving. The aircraft in question had I wanna say several hundred thousand flight hours without issue. I'm not saying it wasn't bad and they didn't need to fix it, just saying that main stream media can blow things out of proportion in your mind by playing on emotions.
The mind is easily fooled with cognitive dissonance if you aren't aware of what's going on. Car crashes happen extremely frequently, many of which are fatal, even on a city-by-city basis. Several hundred people die or thousands even per year in a single city easily. Yet no one is interested in this, because it's "expected'. And it's just life as usual. Why aren't we focusing more on this issue? Just one example of the disconnect of things.
While that's a horrible thing to happen, I always dislike when governments respond by decreasing freedoms in the name of "safety". Though I admit I am not familiar with their laws compared to here (US)? Do they do background checks there currently?
For example of iodicy (I could name many) - the whole desire to ban bump stocks was absolute lunacy here in the states. I can't think of a single time bump stocks have been used in a crime, ever. Zero logical sense. They claimed it was because of the one concert shooting some time back but it was already disproven that a bump fire stock was used by veterans at the scene who know the fire rate of bump fire vs. belt fed etc. That's another pet peeve of mine. Most people advocating gun control don't even understand how firearms work. IMO, one should not even make arguments if they don't even know the difference between a barrel and a heat guard. I kid you not, I remember one time on CNN when the talk show host said there was desire to ban heat guards because they "Look scary". Hey, let's paint all AR's hot pink then they won't look scary anymore!
Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant. Lol.
BTW, you won't ever hear about all the times mass shootings have been STOPPED by a good guy with a gun- because that won't fit the narrative. Heaven forbid the narrative be challenged.
Leftists/liberals are the party of "Emotion" and not of logic. They are great at taking a tragedy (like this) and using it to stir up peoples' emotions to make an emotional, not logical, based decision.
I'd rather have a christchurch attack every day than for basic human rights to be taken away.
Or, an alternative: Mandatory open and/or conceal carry for every citizen without a felony record. There's a lack of logic in blaming a particular weapon on the primal nature of humans. We're not a peaceful, egalitarian species. We have very violent roots, and at the core of every man is the possibility and the propensity to kill. Taking away certain weapons won't change the nature of mankind. You can take everything away and we would still kill with our bare hands. The greatest evil in this world isn't the actions of wicked men, it's the lack in action of indifferent good men. Besides, on a much less philosophical point, in my country (America) taking the guns, legally speaking, would spark one of the biggest black market trades we've ever seen. Quite possibly even more dangerous than the drug prohibition. Prohibition of any kind is doomed to fail.
I think you're disgraceful, an authoritarian tyrant who want to take away peoples rights. A little mini-Hitler, if you will.Utterly disgraceful. You have no concept of the loss and pain this kind of thing causes because you live in a bubble.
The problem with your perception of freedom is that it's based on a fallacy.
Society works because of inhibition of freedoms that allow a greater collective freedom for the commonwealth. A person with lots of funds that can buy up lots of land and monopolise it might kick up a fuss that his freedoms are being inhibited by regulation that prevents such an act, but in actuality his perceived freedom is simply REDUCING the freedom of others. The common good, common freedom, becomes greater by inhibiting the freedom of the individual in a sensible, well intentioned way.
Looking at things from the perspective of the individual isn't logical, it's simply selfish and is at direct odds with civilized society. It's certainly passion provking though - and it's a rhetorical tool used to stir people and direct them a certain way, especially so in the USA. The same tools were used in the UK to manipulate the public into leaving Europe. European legislation protects rights of workers and has heavy environmental protection and targets in place, but this was reframed as taking away sovereignity and freedom. The IDEA of threats to individual freedom is an extremely useful tool to control the masses.
Regarding not hearing about the times a gun has been used to stop a mass shooting, it's irrelevant. Of course there might be an occasion where a person can only take a couple of people out before being shot, but we have HUGE scale evidence in both the UK in Australia that proper legislation completely stops massacres. You have a choice between a person on the ODD occasion stopping a massacre, or completely stopping massacres altogether.
Violent crime is a social issue, so these will never stop all violent crime. They'll just make it MUCH harder for the violent person to take down so many people when they're driven to violence. Guns and automatic weapons make it easier to take lives and injure others. They're literally designed for that purpose. They're designed to inhibit the freedoms of others. You can't conceptualise freedom on an individual level - it's one dimensional.
I'm kind of neutral on gun control, because the root cause of mass violence seems to be social alienation often along with metabolic/developmental dysfunction that intensify existing issues. Even where guns are banned those who feel severely alienated just as often use homemade bombs, acid, or knives to inflict just as much damage on average.
There are limits to human nature to adapt to social and cultural change without feeling overly threatened, so it is in society's best interest to put a lot more focus on intentionally directing those who feel alienated into a healthy meaningful social environment and perhaps slowing down some of factors that aggravate social alienation.
Somewhat at the root of mass violence is that men in particular can become easily alienated in the modern world for various reasons especially in cities. This is a spiritual and social crisis for men around much of the world. I believe its likely one that only men can solve for themselves. We must recreate meaningful fraternal organizations for men that are centered on a positive brotherhood where we seek each other's well being and success in life in harmony with others. Many of the old organizations/religions that served this purpose have become eroded or are no longer able to transmit the wisdom necessary for well being in the modern world.
On a positive note, Jordan Peterson's book has been banned from Whitcoulls book store in New Zealand, so at least that will prevent further tragedies...