My stack for testosterone, anxiety, inflammation and muscle growth: reasonable?

[equipoise]

Vitamin D and K can lower empathy by lowering estrogen. When i have low estrogen i feel like this,but it's a good thing.

True empathy doesn't come from high estrogen, it comes from a good body homeostasis. Which always indicates lower or normal estrogen levels. It's such a bro-Science topic on this forums.

Whenever I'm ACTUALLY being able to empathize with people, even complete strangers, it always comes from a non-bloated, high dopamine, focused state. It's only when you feel good about yourself that you start feeling good about the world and form meaningful bonds.

Do not confuse and mix overly emotional states with empathy. High testosterone gives you high empathy and makes you want to protect the people you care about.
If anything, lowering the estrogen would help with that.

 

[aadrock]

I would probably try some idealabs products as it will bundle a lot of your vitamins etc together. Raising test while lowering estrogen and prolactin will help with anxiety and inflammation issues and allow you to build muscle in the gym. Increase dopamine to lower prolactin with something like diamant in the morning to give more energy and drive
Energin for all them b vitamins which are important.
Estroban for fat vitamins which help with hormones. Increase test/lower estrogen.
Maybe if you are low on energy it will also contribute to anxiety etc so maybe something like a quinine product to improve the NAD/NADH ratio. Oxidal is good but probably wouldn’t do it with diamant.
Just my 2c

 

[Razvan]

I totally agree. What I meant was too low estrogen as I got that from 5-dhp and progesterone. When everything is in the right place you can be anything you want.

 

[TheBeard]

Where do you get this from man, I've seen you posting and most of the time it absolutely makes no sense. Heck, it even seems you're trolling half of the time. Maybe you are sardonic, maybe it's hard to understand sarcasm over the internet, but I'd wager you're not haha.

I, along many others, take creatine on a daily basis and my skin and eyes are perfect, my skin is glowing whether I take creatine or not.

Can't comment on the vitamin K, but vitamin D makes me go beyond the strenght plateus of the given month/week and actually feel a difference in scalp health and dry muscle look.

Do you know what's apathetic? Psych meds, aka SSRI's, benzos, AP's. That stuff makes you go through your daily life without actually experiencing it.

From my own personal experience + years of feedback from coaching clients.

 

[TheBeard]

Thanks for your feedback man,

What do you think about the combo shilajit + cordyceps?

Do you have any experiences with lysine, black seed oil and TMG?

No worries.

I have no experience with the compounds you just listed, except for Lysine: it opposes arginine too much and reduces nitric oxide more than I'd like.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

I would probably try some idealabs products as it will bundle a lot of your vitamins etc together. Raising test while lowering estrogen and prolactin will help with anxiety and inflammation issues and allow you to build muscle in the gym. Increase dopamine to lower prolactin with something like diamant in the morning to give more energy and drive
Energin for all them b vitamins which are important.
Estroban for fat vitamins which help with hormones. Increase test/lower estrogen.
Maybe if you are low on energy it will also contribute to anxiety etc so maybe something like a quinine product to improve the NAD/NADH ratio. Oxidal is good but probably wouldn’t do it with diamant.
Just my 2c

Any other dopaminergics you reccomend that aren't expensive and effective? Mucuna?

 

[faxmulder]

No worries.

I have no experience with the compounds you just listed, except for Lysine: it opposes arginine too much and reduces nitric oxide more than I'd like.

thank you. So, besides exercise, sleep and diet which supplements would you advise considering my goals?

 

[OccamzRazer]

Are you taking grass-fed whey protein or any other very insulinogenic protein?

I've experienced great benefits with milk + whey + colostrum.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Are you taking grass-fed whey protein or any other very insulinogenic protein?

I've experienced great benefits with milk + whey + colostrum.

where do you get your colostrum

 

[faxmulder]

Are you taking grass-fed whey protein or any other very insulinogenic protein?

I've experienced great benefits with milk + whey + colostrum.

nope, is colostrum boosting the immune system? Because I have an autoimmune disease, so I should take stuff that modulate the immune response, instead of increase it

What do you think about the trio creatine, shilajit and cordyceps? Do you have any experience with TMG/betaine?

Thanks man

 

[Razvan]

Any other dopaminergics you reccomend that aren't expensive and effective? Mucuna?

Piracetam as i said it's amazing. Don't **** with mucuna.

 

[faxmulder]

I would probably try some idealabs products as it will bundle a lot of your vitamins etc together. Raising test while lowering estrogen and prolactin will help with anxiety and inflammation issues and allow you to build muscle in the gym. Increase dopamine to lower prolactin with something like diamant in the morning to give more energy and drive
Energin for all them b vitamins which are important.
Estroban for fat vitamins which help with hormones. Increase test/lower estrogen.
Maybe if you are low on energy it will also contribute to anxiety etc so maybe something like a quinine product to improve the NAD/NADH ratio. Oxidal is good but probably wouldn’t do it with diamant.
Just my 2c

thanks mate, do you know if Idealabs ships also to Italy?

 

[faxmulder]

Piracetam as i said it's amazing. Don't **** with mucuna.

too bad racetams are banned here in Italy, I've tried to order aniracetam from Nootropics Depot but it was blocked at the customs :-/

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Piracetam as i said it's amazing. Don't **** with mucuna.

I have heard a lot of mixed stuff about piracetam lately - there is a thread about it where some people haven't had great experiences some i'm weighing out my options in terms of dopaminergics,.

 

[Razvan]

Mucuna can **** your brain and gives you withdrawal, piracetam doesn't give you withdrawal,you just don't get the effects when not using it. If you use it as needed has only benefits, it is a pretty old drug and acts similar to aspirin for mitochondrial respiration.I personally used it before having sex with my gf because acts similar to viagra ahah. You recover fast from ejaculation.Here are some of the great benefits of piracetam. Piracetam:

Influences membrane fluidity, particularly when normal fluidity is compromised, as is often seen during aging. Piracetam has been shown to alter the physical properties of the plasma membrane by increasing its fluidity and by protecting the cell against hypoxia. This effect of piracetam doesn’t just make it great for the brain, but for the whole body as well. Piracetam is an agent with antithrombotic, neuroprotective and rheological properties.
Significantly decreases the destabilizing effects of the amyloid peptide. Amyloid peptide was shown to cause lipid disorganization within the cell membranes.
Increases locus coeruleus firing, which increases noradrenaline levels in the brain. This effect can enhance focus, alertness and libido. Some people who use piracetam report an increase in libido.
Has been found to increase oxygen consumption in the brain, apparently in connection to ATP metabolism. Piracetam, while in the brain, appears to increase the synthesis of cytochrome b5, which is a part of the electron transport mechanism in mitochondria. This effect combined with the improvement in cell fluidity can greatly increase cellular function and energy production.
Mitochondrial stabilization and protection might be an important mechanism to explain many of piracetam’s beneficial effects in elderly patients.
Protect neurons against endotoxin damage. In alcohol-treated rats, piracetam administration is associated with a decrease in lipofuscin, a marker of neuron membrane damage. Furthermore, piracetam promotes neuroplasticity when neural circuits are recoverable.
Inhibits stress-induced increase in prolactin.
Influences neurotransmitter function as follows. Piracetam:
Enhances the efficacy of AMPA (a glutamate receptor)-induced calcium influx in brain cells. It also increases the maximal density of AMPA receptors in synaptic membranes from rat cortex due to the recruitment of a subset of AMPA receptors which do not normally contribute to synaptic transmission. At larger doses, piracetam potentiates potassium-induced release of glutamate from rat hippocampal nerves.
Modifies hippocampal acetylcholine levels in the rat and increases the population of muscarinic cholinergic receptors in the frontal cortex of aged but not young mice by up to 40%. Furthermore, carbachol-induced accumulation of inositol-monophosphates (a measure of muscarinic cholinergic receptor function that decreases with age) was elevated following piracetam treatment suggesting that piracetam can normalize functional deficits associated with aging.
In the glutamatergic system, significantly increased N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptor density in the forebrain of aging mice by approximately 20% after 14 days of treatment. Furthermore, piracetam treatment normalized the age-related elevated affinity of L-glutamate for the NMDA receptor, suggesting that it can restore NMDA receptor function.
Affect the dopaminergic system, which can be blocked with a dopamine receptor antagonist.
Piracetam stimulates an antidepressant action of a single dose of ketamine in cases of behavioral depression, though it has no antidepressant effect when administered at a single dose (only chronically). Piracetam seems to potentiate the effect of other compounds, such as ketamine or other anti-depressants.
Piracetam has been shown to increase reading comprehension and accuracy in dyslexic
children, improve alertness, socialization and IQ in elderly psychiatric patients and even has promise for treating alcoholism.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Mucuna can **** your brain and gives you withdrawal, piracetam doesn't give you withdrawal,you just don't get the effects when not using it. If you use it as needed has only benefits, it is a pretty old drug and acts similar to aspirin for mitochondrial respiration.I personally used it before having sex with my gf because acts similar to viagra ahah. You recover fast from ejaculation.Here are some of the great benefits of piracetam. Piracetam:

Influences membrane fluidity, particularly when normal fluidity is compromised, as is often seen during aging. Piracetam has been shown to alter the physical properties of the plasma membrane by increasing its fluidity and by protecting the cell against hypoxia. This effect of piracetam doesn’t just make it great for the brain, but for the whole body as well. Piracetam is an agent with antithrombotic, neuroprotective and rheological properties.
Significantly decreases the destabilizing effects of the amyloid peptide. Amyloid peptide was shown to cause lipid disorganization within the cell membranes.
Increases locus coeruleus firing, which increases noradrenaline levels in the brain. This effect can enhance focus, alertness and libido. Some people who use piracetam report an increase in libido.
Has been found to increase oxygen consumption in the brain, apparently in connection to ATP metabolism. Piracetam, while in the brain, appears to increase the synthesis of cytochrome b5, which is a part of the electron transport mechanism in mitochondria. This effect combined with the improvement in cell fluidity can greatly increase cellular function and energy production.
Mitochondrial stabilization and protection might be an important mechanism to explain many of piracetam’s beneficial effects in elderly patients.
Protect neurons against endotoxin damage. In alcohol-treated rats, piracetam administration is associated with a decrease in lipofuscin, a marker of neuron membrane damage. Furthermore, piracetam promotes neuroplasticity when neural circuits are recoverable.
Inhibits stress-induced increase in prolactin.
Influences neurotransmitter function as follows. Piracetam:
Enhances the efficacy of AMPA (a glutamate receptor)-induced calcium influx in brain cells. It also increases the maximal density of AMPA receptors in synaptic membranes from rat cortex due to the recruitment of a subset of AMPA receptors which do not normally contribute to synaptic transmission. At larger doses, piracetam potentiates potassium-induced release of glutamate from rat hippocampal nerves.
Modifies hippocampal acetylcholine levels in the rat and increases the population of muscarinic cholinergic receptors in the frontal cortex of aged but not young mice by up to 40%. Furthermore, carbachol-induced accumulation of inositol-monophosphates (a measure of muscarinic cholinergic receptor function that decreases with age) was elevated following piracetam treatment suggesting that piracetam can normalize functional deficits associated with aging.
In the glutamatergic system, significantly increased N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptor density in the forebrain of aging mice by approximately 20% after 14 days of treatment. Furthermore, piracetam treatment normalized the age-related elevated affinity of L-glutamate for the NMDA receptor, suggesting that it can restore NMDA receptor function.
Affect the dopaminergic system, which can be blocked with a dopamine receptor antagonist.
Piracetam stimulates an antidepressant action of a single dose of ketamine in cases of behavioral depression, though it has no antidepressant effect when administered at a single dose (only chronically). Piracetam seems to potentiate the effect of other compounds, such as ketamine or other anti-depressants.
Piracetam has been shown to increase reading comprehension and accuracy in dyslexic
children, improve alertness, socialization and IQ in elderly psychiatric patients and even has promise for treating alcoholism.

Sounds good, just wary of what others have said about in the forum, No long term dopamine downregulation?

 

[OccamzRazer]

where do you get your colostrum

Sovereign Laboratories. Pricey but a little goes a long way.

 

[OccamzRazer]

nope, is colostrum boosting the immune system? Because I have an autoimmune disease, so I should take stuff that modulate the immune response, instead of increase it

What do you think about the trio creatine, shilajit and cordyceps? Do you have any experience with TMG/betaine?

Thanks man

No prob!

That's a good question. I suspect it modulates the immune system. For example, I'm predisposed to autoimmune arthritis, but colostrum seems to help me process dairy products better and reduce joint soreness.

Of the other sups you listed here, I only have experience with cordyceps...which have been awesome! For creatine I just eat lots of red meat, with some bone broth/oxtail to balance it out. Perhaps the supplemental creatine could further optimize things.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

I

Sovereign Laboratories. Pricey but a little goes a long w

$13 Not bad

 

[OccamzRazer]

I

$13 Not bad

Tru, and not so pricey given the importance of investing in one's health...