My mouth is dry 95% of the time and I have no idea why. These are the things I have tried. Let me know what I can try next.

[Jason_Stewartes]

I am a Chinese Medicine Practitioner. Your tongue shows exactly what’s happening. See first pic: puffy, pale, thick coat: your digestion is not transforming well, so you have a condition of dampness collecting. This prevents adequate fluid absorption. Second pic: pink, less puffy, less coat. Your body is transforming better now. Something you’re doing or not doing is decreasing dampness. Actually your second pic shows the coat is now too gone in some parts which is showing what we call underlying yin deficiency.
In general you may be eating a little too much bread for your digestion too handle. Or maybe not enough sleep. Etc. You can try to increase digestive fire at times of first pic tongue. A little ginger tea with meals see how you feel. You could try a probiotic with s bolulardii. The other suggestion is to visit an acupuncturist/ herbalist and take these pics. They can give you very helpful herbs.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will stop eating bread for a couple of days and see what that will do. And yes, I barely get enough sleep and wake up at least 5 times every night.

 

[Jason_Stewartes]

Hello, I have had the same issue for the last couple years. I think bad digestion/reflux is causing my dry mouth/terrible taste in mouth. I recently started taking new probiotics, prebiotics, and an enzyme with every meal and it is helping my issue A LOT. I have tried every remedy over the last couple years and am finally getting some relief with these supps. I am also using this new vitamin cream twice daily. It has B12, B6, P5P, M-MTHF, and D.

The thing is, I know I have a digestive problem but probiotics haven't helped me and I also took the NOW Foods brand enzymes and Zypan brand enzymes. These did nothing for me. My GI doctor said I have a food intolerance but we don't know to what exactly. I'll be doing a food sensitivity test to find out.

 

[Hans]

According to my recent bloodwork, the electrolytes are in normal range, b12 and folic acid are in range, Vitamin D and Iron are in range. I've been to multiple doctors and dentists and none of them care enough to try to diagnose it.

My diet:
Morning - 3 eggs with spinach and a slice of whole grain bread, peanut butter with a slice of bread or cream of wheat with water and dark chocolate.
Lunch - Chickpeas with chicken and a slice of bread.
Dinner - Salmon with 2 slices of bread and ketchup with baked potatoes.
Sometimes over the week I will have ground beef and yogurt.

Things that I have tried that didn't work:
- Drink 8 glasses of water
- Take vitamins b2, b3, b6, folic acid, b12
- Take a Zinc supplement
- Take vitamin D
- Eat lots of fruits and vegetables
- Drink electrolyte drinks
- Mouthwash

Once a month, I would start salivating randomly and my tongue would become pink again and I'd be super happy. This would go on for 2-3 days, and then dry mouth comes back and stays for weeks.

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My tongue 95% of the time - bad breath and dry mouth
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My tongue when it's salivating for 2-3 days once a month - No bad breath

Histamine and acetylcholine promote the secretion of bodily fluids. That's why anti-histamines and anti-cholinergics can cause dry mouth.
If copper is too high, and copper to zinc ratio, you'll be breaking histamine down too fast. Too much activation of the sympathetic nervous system, as opposed to the parasympathetic nervous system, can also cause dry mouth.
Maybe eliminate high copper foods and eat more beef more frequently.

 

[Jkbp]

The thing is, I know I have a digestive problem but probiotics haven't helped me and I also took the NOW Foods brand enzymes and Zypan brand enzymes. These did nothing for me. My GI doctor said I have a food intolerance but we don't know to what exactly. I'll be doing a food sensitivity test to find out.

Great idea to do a food sensitivities test. I have found the ALCAT test to be the most comprehensive. Also, the enzymes did not work for me until I started emptying the capsule into water and drinking with every meal. It’s possible that I have a sensitivity to the gelatin capsules. Best of luck. I know how frustrating it can be!

 

[golder]

Great idea to do a food sensitivities test. I have found the ALCAT test to be the most comprehensive. Also, the enzymes did not work for me until I started emptying the capsule into water and drinking with every meal. It’s possible that I have a sensitivity to the gelatin capsules. Best of luck. I know how frustrating it can be!

Interested in the ALCAT test. Is that generally considered the most thorough/reliable/comprehensive test here for doet, allergies and intolerances? Wanted to check before I spent the rather large amount of money on it.

 

[LLight]

You might want to try betaine (anhydrous, not HCL) supplementation.

Betaine-containing toothpaste relieves subjective symptoms of dry mouth - PubMed

Subjects with dry mouth often experience irritation of the oral mucosa when using sodium lauryl sulfate containing products for oral hygiene. Betaine, or trimethylglycine, reduces skin-irritating effects of ingredients of cosmetics such as sodium lauryl sulfate. The aim of the present study was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Jason_Stewartes]

Histamine and acetylcholine promote the secretion of bodily fluids. That's why anti-histamines and anti-cholinergics can cause dry mouth.
If copper is too high, and copper to zinc ratio, you'll be breaking histamine down too fast. Too much activation of the sympathetic nervous system, as opposed to the parasympathetic nervous system, can also cause dry mouth.
Maybe eliminate high copper foods and eat more beef more frequently.

Thanks for the suggestion, my diet is definitely high in copper. I will try eating some beef everyday.

 

[danishstargazer]

your tongue is scalloped and that can mean you are hypothyroid. also , i would suspect you have mal absorption issues - could be the gluten in the bread. also you could be have MTHFR which means no folic acid and only methyl b12. you have candida on your tongue ( iodine helps that ) ( bread does not ) and your tongue is cracked in the middle so you have colon issues .

 

[dlind70]

Eat beef and hamburger. Saliva is related to the spleen pancreas meridian and there's research to say beef if not used in excess will promote salvation and engage the spleen pancreas and also any food that promotes salvation is good such as hot foods. cayenne pepper would be ideal, cayenne pepper tacos something like that.

 

[Jason_Stewartes]

Eat beef and hamburger. Saliva is related to the spleen pancreas meridian and there's research to say beef if not used in excess will promote salvation and engage the spleen pancreas and also any food that promotes salvation is good such as hot foods. cayenne pepper would be ideal, cayenne pepper tacos something like that.

I have been eating ground beef everyday for the past 2 weeks now but no change at all.

 

[Jkbp]

I started taking enzymes with every meal and my reflux/dry mouth is A LOT better. I take 1 when I start the meal and 1 halfway through the meal. I am also chewing a DGL chewable a couple times a day, to coat esophagus and help with digestion. And I drink lemon water with 1-2 meals a day, to provide HCL.

 

[golder]

I started taking enzymes with every meal and my reflux/dry mouth is A LOT better. I take 1 when I start the meal and 1 halfway through the meal. I am also chewing a DGL chewable a couple times a day, to coat esophagus and help with digestion. And I drink lemon water with 1-2 meals a day, to provide HCL.

DGL?

 

[Jkbp]

DGL?

 

[baron]

Vitamin K2 and mouth taping before sleep. I get a very noticable increase in saliva from vitamin K2.

"Vitamin K2 (K2) has been shown to have an antioxidant potential in the brain and may prove to be a potent way to preserve the endocrine controlled centrifugal dentinal fluid flow. Stress, including oxidative stress, magnifies the body's inflammatory response. Sugar can not only increase oral bacterial acid production but it can concurrently reduce the tooth's defenses through endocrine signaling. Saliva production is the exocrine function of the salivary glands. The buffering capacity of saliva is critical to neutralizing the oral environment. This minimizes the de-mineralization of enamel and enhances its re-mineralization. K2, such as that found in fermented cheese, improves salivary buffering through its influence on calcium and inorganic phosphates secreted."

 

[Jason_Stewartes]

Vitamin K2 and mouth taping before sleep. I get a very noticable increase in saliva from vitamin K2.

"Vitamin K2 (K2) has been shown to have an antioxidant potential in the brain and may prove to be a potent way to preserve the endocrine controlled centrifugal dentinal fluid flow. Stress, including oxidative stress, magnifies the body's inflammatory response. Sugar can not only increase oral bacterial acid production but it can concurrently reduce the tooth's defenses through endocrine signaling. Saliva production is the exocrine function of the salivary glands. The buffering capacity of saliva is critical to neutralizing the oral environment. This minimizes the de-mineralization of enamel and enhances its re-mineralization. K2, such as that found in fermented cheese, improves salivary buffering through its influence on calcium and inorganic phosphates secreted."

I do mouth taping but will try vitamin K2 out, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Jkbp]

Have you checked for SIBO and H Pylori?

 

[Jason_Stewartes]

Have you checked for SIBO and H Pylori?

I checked for H.Pylori but not SIBO. I will check for it when I get a chance though.

 

[Jkbp]

The triosmart SIBO test is most comprehensive. Also, I tested negative on the breath test, blood test and a different stool test, for H Pylori and then tested postive on the GI Map stool test, for Hp. I’ve since been told that the GI Map test is most comprehensive test for H Pylori.

 

[pademo]

Hi. Did you manage to figure it out?

 

[vetiver]

Surprising no one has mentioned that this might be a structural issue not nutritional. I would do a sleep study to check for sleep apnea, even if you do not snore.