My Mother Has Breast Cancer

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We recently found out that my mother has breast cancer. What is interesting is that every single female for the last few generations on my mom's side has had breast cancer but one. I'm curious to know what the linking factor would be between all of them. Any thoughts?

PS. My mom is very against traditional treatments. I've sent her a few RP articles, but she has her own naturopath as well. What would be some of the most useful things she could do to fight this?

Thanks in advance for any input.
 

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We recently found out that my mother has breast cancer. What is interesting is that every single female for the last few generations on my mom's side has had breast cancer but one. I'm curious to know what the linking factor would be between all of them. Any thoughts?

PS. My mom is very against traditional treatments. I've sent her a few RP articles, but she has her own naturopath as well. What would be some of the most useful things she could do to fight this?

Thanks in advance for any input.
 

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Black salve.

I've prepared it myself and used it on my dog for a papilloma, and it works.
 

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We recently found out that my mother has breast cancer. What is interesting is that every single female for the last few generations on my mom's side has had breast cancer but one. I'm curious to know what the linking factor would be between all of them. Any thoughts?
It could be a heritable characteristic, like hypothyroidism, or iron loading conditions like hemochromatosis. It could also be a regional thing like coming from an area with low iodine levels in the soil, or northern latitudes where you get less sunlight, and have low vitamin D levels. It could be a few of these factors together. These are just some guesses.

But it could also be a sort of "self-fulfilling prophecy." If doctors know that "breast cancer runs in your family," they can be more likely to find it. Same idea if your family has more frequent mammograms than other women, if it's a concern. There is a quote, I think from Hardin Jones, to the effect that pretty much everyone over 50 has something in their body that could be labeled "cancerous."
PS. My mom is very against traditional treatments. I've sent her a few RP articles, but she has her own naturopath as well. What would be some of the most useful things she could do to fight this?

Thanks in advance for any input.

From reading this forum over the years, I think all cancers pretty much stem from some sort of combination of low metabolism, high stress hormones (especially estrogen and cortisol), high iron and PUFA levels, increased FAO (and maybe serum FFAs), and high lactate

So, things that oppose estrogen (Progesterone, AIs like Exemestane, non-aromatizable androgens, Aspirin, Vitamin E), things that raise metabolism (thyroid hormone), FAO inhibitors (Aspirin, Niacinamide, Pyrucet, Mildronate), things that lower cortisol (aspirin, cyproheptadine), things that lower lactate (baking soda, CO2) things that lower iron (aspirin, phlebotomy, IP6) could all be helpful. Vitamins D and K2 could also be useful, glycine/gelatin, antibiotics, and Vitamin C (especially the oxidized form DHAA, which can be make with methylene blue and Ascorbic Acid). You can probably find more on all those if you search around the forum.

Of course, depending on the cancer, a lot of the traditional treatments can be worse than the cancer itself. Even the stated goal of chemo is to kill the cancer before you kill the patient. "Wait and Monitor" can be a good choice, better than traditional options in many cases.
 

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My mother in law used the Delgado protocol to such great effect even her specialist questioned what she was doing to understand it. Told her they'd never seen such good results from tamoxifen. M My Mother in law never once took the tamoxifen and didnt dare to admit that since she'd grown up under communism and is still too scared to risk offending an authority figure because of the potential consequences. Just smiled, lied and let the Doctor/system take the credit for the phenomenal results.

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It could be a heritable characteristic, like hypothyroidism, or iron loading conditions like hemochromatosis. It could also be a regional thing like coming from an area with low iodine levels in the soil, or northern latitudes where you get less sunlight, and have low vitamin D levels. It could be a few of these factors together. These are just some guesses.

But it could also be a sort of "self-fulfilling prophecy." If doctors know that "breast cancer runs in your family," they can be more likely to find it. Same idea if your family has more frequent mammograms than other women, if it's a concern. There is a quote, I think from Hardin Jones, to the effect that pretty much everyone over 50 has something in their body that could be labeled "cancerous."


From reading this forum over the years, I think all cancers pretty much stem from some sort of combination of low metabolism, high stress hormones (especially estrogen and cortisol), high iron and PUFA levels, increased FAO (and maybe serum FFAs), and high lactate

So, things that oppose estrogen (Progesterone, AIs like Exemestane, non-aromatizable androgens, Aspirin, Vitamin E), things that raise metabolism (thyroid hormone), FAO inhibitors (Aspirin, Niacinamide, Pyrucet, Mildronate), things that lower cortisol (aspirin, cyproheptadine), things that lower lactate (baking soda, CO2) things that lower iron (aspirin, phlebotomy, IP6) could all be helpful. Vitamins D and K2 could also be useful, glycine/gelatin, antibiotics, and Vitamin C (especially the oxidized form DHAA, which can be make with methylene blue and Ascorbic Acid). You can probably find more on all those if you search around the forum.

Of course, depending on the cancer, a lot of the traditional treatments can be worse than the cancer itself. Even the stated goal of chemo is to kill the cancer before you kill the patient. "Wait and Monitor" can be a good choice, better than traditional options in many cases.
great post. however are you sure the oxidized form of vitamin C is safe ? Ray said it reacts badly with iron and ferratin in someway something to do with reduction which i don't understand. not to mention his distaste with AA in general. from my own experience i also notice some sniffles after taking it, might be from intestinal irradiation. i have high iron as well tho
 

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It could be a heritable characteristic, like hypothyroidism, or iron loading conditions like hemochromatosis. It could also be a regional thing like coming from an area with low iodine levels in the soil, or northern latitudes where you get less sunlight, and have low vitamin D levels. It could be a few of these factors together. These are just some guesses.

But it could also be a sort of "self-fulfilling prophecy." If doctors know that "breast cancer runs in your family," they can be more likely to find it. Same idea if your family has more frequent mammograms than other women, if it's a concern. There is a quote, I think from Hardin Jones, to the effect that pretty much everyone over 50 has something in their body that could be labeled "cancerous."


From reading this forum over the years, I think all cancers pretty much stem from some sort of combination of low metabolism, high stress hormones (especially estrogen and cortisol), high iron and PUFA levels, increased FAO (and maybe serum FFAs), and high lactate

So, things that oppose estrogen (Progesterone, AIs like Exemestane, non-aromatizable androgens, Aspirin, Vitamin E), things that raise metabolism (thyroid hormone), FAO inhibitors (Aspirin, Niacinamide, Pyrucet, Mildronate), things that lower cortisol (aspirin, cyproheptadine), things that lower lactate (baking soda, CO2) things that lower iron (aspirin, phlebotomy, IP6) could all be helpful. Vitamins D and K2 could also be useful, glycine/gelatin, antibiotics, and Vitamin C (especially the oxidized form DHAA, which can be make with methylene blue and Ascorbic Acid). You can probably find more on all those if you search around the forum.

Of course, depending on the cancer, a lot of the traditional treatments can be worse than the cancer itself. Even the stated goal of chemo is to kill the cancer before you kill the patient. "Wait and Monitor" can be a good choice, better than traditional options in many cases.
This is good advice, in addition I suggest she heats her body up via baths or something. Getting the body to 37.7-38 Celsius for an hour or so every day should help a lot. Heat therapy has apparently cured a lot of cancers.
 

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I strongly recomment the book by dr. John Lee "What your doctor may not tell you about breast cancer": it was written nearly 20 years ago but everyone reading it will be shocked to see how little has changed since and how true the main messages still are. The story of Joe Tippens mentioned here above is very interesting but it seems that for hormonal cancers the turkey tail is also very useful ( Paul Stamets from the Host Defence company has cured his own mother from breast cancer with that mushroom). Plus of course vitamins D, C, K2, magnesium and curcumin (efficient against cancer stem cells) and staying away from tamoxifen.
 

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great post. however are you sure the oxidized form of vitamin C is safe ? Ray said it reacts badly with iron and ferratin in someway something to do with reduction which i don't understand. not to mention his distaste with AA in general. from my own experience i also notice some sniffles after taking it, might be from intestinal irradiation. i have high iron as well tho

Why wouldn't the oxidized form of C be safe? It has a better absorption rate than regular AA. It's this form of C (DHAA) that leads Peat to theorize that vitamin C content of some foods (especially meat and milk) is much higher than listed Since it's oxidized, it wouldn't act as a reductant. And even longer term administration of C (as AA) didn't necessarily raise ferritin. Here's a study that shows that, and some of the people with the highest starting ferritin actually saw drastic reductions when taking C twice a day with meals (over 16 weeks)-


I know Peat isn't a fan, but Linus Pauling was. Certainly something to at least research. And there are some studies that found C as an effective treatment for cancer, either alone or with other substances like antibiotics. Apatone is a newer cancer drug that's just vitamin C oxidized with K3. There's this thread on it- Oxidized Vitamin C DHAA Anti Cancer Make It At Home
 

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This is good advice, in addition I suggest she heats her body up via baths or something. Getting the body to 37.7-38 Celsius for an hour or so every day should help a lot. Heat therapy has apparently cured a lot of cancers.

Oh yeah, just simple heating can be therapeutic, maybe even curative in some cases-

 

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We recently found out that my mother has breast cancer. What is interesting is that every single female for the last few generations on my mom's side has had breast cancer but one. I'm curious to know what the linking factor would be between all of them. Any thoughts?

PS. My mom is very against traditional treatments. I've sent her a few RP articles, but she has her own naturopath as well. What would be some of the most useful things she could do to fight this?

Thanks in advance for any input.

Hey, I am sorry to hear that! We are in the same boat.

So, things that oppose estrogen (Progesterone, AIs like Exemestane, non-aromatizable androgens, Aspirin, Vitamin E), things that raise metabolism (thyroid hormone), FAO inhibitors (Aspirin, Niacinamide, Pyrucet, Mildronate), things that lower cortisol (aspirin, cyproheptadine), things that lower lactate (baking soda, CO2) things that lower iron (aspirin, phlebotomy, IP6) could all be helpful. Vitamins D and K2 could also be useful, glycine/gelatin, antibiotics, and Vitamin C (especially the oxidized form DHAA, which can be make with methylene blue and Ascorbic Acid). You can probably find more on all those if you search around the forum.

Of course, depending on the cancer, a lot of the traditional treatments can be worse than the cancer itself. Even the stated goal of chemo is to kill the cancer before you kill the patient. "Wait and Monitor" can be a good choice, better than traditional options in many cases.

Four months ago, when cancer was out of sight (we found out just recently) my mother started taking vitamin D3 (blood levels of 13 ng!) and I suggested to her to start taking vit K2 (mk-7) as well - 100 mcg daily.
I am doing extra research about all these things now related to cancer and I came across this study saying that mk-7 is bad for cancer development. I am quite surprised actually.


Conclusions

The present study suggests that total MK intake was associated with an altered risk of the occurrence and death of breast cancer in the general US population. If our findings are replicated in other epidemiological studies, reducing dietary intake of menaquinones may offer a novel strategy for breast cancer prevention.

I don't want to worsen things. On the other side, there is tons of studies including benefits and vitamin K2. I wonder about your opinion, if I may.
 

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Hey, I am sorry to hear that! We are in the same boat.



Four months ago, when cancer was out of sight (we found out just recently) my mother started taking vitamin D3 (blood levels of 13 ng!) and I suggested to her to start taking vit K2 (mk-7) as well - 100 mcg daily.
I am doing extra research about all these things now related to cancer and I came across this study saying that mk-7 is bad for cancer development. I am quite surprised actually.




I don't want to worsen things. On the other side, there is tons of studies including benefits and vitamin K2. I wonder about your opinion, if I may.
I don't think long term studies like the one you linked provide much value when it comes to diet and nutrition in general, even more so if you are talking about a specific vitamin or nutrient. There's always the "correlation does not mean causation" factor, but the bigger issue is the way these studies collect data. This is from the paper talking about how they did the Dietary Assessment-

Dietary assessment 20 The calculation of intakes of vitamin K1, vitamin K2, and total vitamin K has 21 been previously described in detail by our group[25]. Diet was assessed by using a 22 food frequency questionnaire (FFQ), the Dietary History Questionnaire (DHQ), which Journal Pre-proof 9 was introduced in 1998 to the control and intervention arms within a median of three years after randomization of the PLCO trial[1, 58]. Participants reported frequencies of intake and portion size of 124 food items and supplement use over the previous year[1, 59]. Daily nutrient intake was calculated by the DietCalc software[2], which integrated responses of food frequency, portion size, and other responses with a nutrient database based on national dietary data (USDA's 1994-96 Continuing Survey 7 of Food Intakes by Individuals (CSFII) and supplemented by the Nutrition Data 8 Systems for Research from the University of Minnesota)[58]. Alcohol intake, fat 9 intake, calcium intake (from diet and supplements), β-Carotene intake (from diet and 10 supplements) and total energy intake were obtained from the DHQ[23, 41]. Given that vitamin K values do not exist in PLCO trial, we compiled a comprehensive vitamin K database based on USDA National Nutritional Database for Standard Reference, 13 release 24[61], which recorded phylloquinone for 3701 food items and MK-4 for 270 14 food items. As for other 15 less-common forms of menaquinone (i.e., MK-5 through MK-14) in food or animal 16 tissues (e.g., cow, horse, pig, and chicken), their values were calculated according to 17 studies from Dutch [54] and Japanese [24, 29] residents. Then, we linked 18 phylloquinone and MK values to each of the individual CSFII foods in these food 19 groups. All the vitamin K values used in this study for diet sources were quantified by 20 HPLC, an assay considered the most reliable for measuring vitamin K content in 21 foods[6, 60]. In this study, total vitamin K was calculated as the sum of phylloquinone 22 and MKs and total MK as the sum of its subtypes (i.e., MK-4 through MK-14).

I bolded some of the bigger problems. First, they used dietary questionnaires, which themselves are notoriously unreliable. Worse yet, they had participants do this for the previous year. I don't know how anyone could report food intake accurately with this method. Then, they took that info, and estimated vitamin K values from a USDA database.

Any conclusions drawn from this type of data are going to be highly questionable at best. Most long term dietary studies use a method similar to this, usually collecting information on diet once every two years or so, because you can't really lock people down in a metabolic ward for decades at a time, certainly not tens of thousands of them. And its easier for researchers to collect this sort of data infrequently, rather than monthly, weekly, or daily.

So personally, I wouldn't even consider that study too much. I would put much more credibility into studies where they somehow assessed serum values of K2 or some surrogate marker, or studies where they gave participants some sort of K2 supplement and then logged changes and results.
 

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Perfect, thank you.
Reading longer description of methods is an eye opener for this study.
 

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We recently found out that my mother has breast cancer. What is interesting is that every single female for the last few generations on my mom's side has had breast cancer but one. I'm curious to know what the linking factor would be between all of them. Any thoughts?

PS. My mom is very against traditional treatments. I've sent her a few RP articles, but she has her own naturopath as well. What would be some of the most useful things she could do to fight this?

Thanks in advance for any input.
IF she is interested, the Care Oncology Clinic has a non-traditional protocol based on traditional meds - they use Doxycycline, Atorvastatin, Metformin and Menbendazole (which is the human version of Fenbendazole). Atorvastatin and Metformin are not Peaty, but not everyone thinks the same way about them.

In addition to the great thoughts already presented on this thread, I would add the importance of regular sleep - (min) 8 hours at the SAME TIME every cycle. Keeping in mind it takes a week to recover from one missed night. Second hugely important thing is the Calcium / Phosphorus ratio in the diet. This should be over 1, and considered at every meal, not just a total day's balance.

Far Infrared Sauna's are great. I own the Relax version, and recommend it. Aspirin and Progesterone are important. She may want to consider some Exemestane as well. Blocking Estrogen is important in any cancer, and especially breast cancer. Pyrucet (Idealabs product) gets a lot of good reports for cancers, also Idealabs' CortiNon has shown good results in mice studies.

A strong family history points to a BRCA or CHECK2 gene deletion. Unfortunately, nobody looks at these genetic issues with respect to how the metabolism might be affected, creating the environment that allows cancers to form. If that link could be established, it could be very useful helping women adjust their lifestyle early on and prevent occurrence.

I would suggest looking through Danny Roddy's youtube channel; he, Georgi and Ray and many episodes that talk about cancer.
 

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Hi thank you for all the suggestions and the interesting link on a dog wormer :oops:

I had two masses on my collar bone scanned with ultrasound about 6 months ago and was told they were just fat and nothing to worry about. Now they have increased and cancer symptoms have appeared: extreme fatigue, reduced appetite and weight loss, intense itching of scalp, lower back pain, the last two found in Non Hodgkins Lymphoma.

So I started to investigate treatments as I absolutely refuse conventional ones. I quickly got my diet under control as I have been eating unhealthy foods probably due to depression, though I have been on a health kick for many years.

I think that I will concentrate on Rife at the moment with my spooky2 and did a session yesterday with a set of freqs but I intend to do a full body scan which will give me the specific freqs I react to when I can work out how to do it. I have also ordered Essaic Tea. I heard that garlic has reportedly cured some cancers so have taped a slice of raw garlic onto each of the masses. I have had great success with infections this way - it gets straight into the bloodstream.

I know a number of folk who have cured their cancers with Rife.

Interest in the wormer though.
 

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Although I don't have any proof of it working, using heat as suggested by @Hugh Johnson and @tankasnowgod would be my first recommendation. I actually recommended it to a friend of a friend with breast cancer. Haven't heard any updates but I think heat lamps may be very effective. Personally I'd set up a 1000watt sauna and do it a couple times a day. It's safe with little down sides regardless of what else you want to try
 

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One thing is for sure. Best practice (chemo + radiation) is generally worse than not doing anything.

One way to stop the progression of the cancer is to go on the paleo ketogenic diet. However, most are not able to stay on it as it is so restrictive. Also it is more like hibernation.

Otherwise, it is very difficult to know how to cure cancer as anecdotal evidence is not enough for a protocol.
 

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One thing is for sure. Best practice (chemo + radiation) is generally worse than not doing anything.

One way to stop the progression of the cancer is to go on the paleo ketogenic diet. However, most are not able to stay on it as it is so restrictive. Also it is more like hibernation.

Otherwise, it is very difficult to know how to cure cancer as anecdotal evidence is not enough for a protocol.
Prove that. Cancer metabolism and keto seems to be pretty much the same. Paleo does not even mean anything, and if it refers to what people have evolved to eat, you would recommend a high carb diet. Your post is "eat high carb, no carb, or make up some fantasy about what people ate to justify keto diet, and this will magically help you despite being extremely stressful."
 

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