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I've decided if I get the job offer in FL I'm gonna pull the trigger and buy a Capnograph. Yes yes I know financially they tell you not to splurge when getting a promotion but its not THAT big of a splurge and plus I've wanted to get one for a while so I can measure CO2 finally and add it to my data tracking which imo is much needed to find the missing keys to metabolic health.
 

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I've decided if I get the job offer in FL I'm gonna pull the trigger and buy a Capnograph. Yes yes I know financially they tell you not to splurge when getting a promotion but its not THAT big of a splurge and plus I've wanted to get one for a while so I can measure CO2 finally and add it to my data tracking which imo is much needed to find the missing keys to metabolic health.

Nice, excited for dat data
 

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Probably not the worst idea but I can't really do it sadly. Both by necessity and lack of energy to do anything else. I look at a screen 8 hrs a day for work (so unavoidable here). Avoidable while at home, but not really, because when at home I have zero energy or motivation to do any activities outside of the house, which inevitably leads to screen time.

I feel like you're probably right, though, so it is a little bit of a cop out lol. I'm planning to get a nice big yard or at least a nice big patio if/when I can move to FL so I have no excuse to relax outside. I don't really have a yard in my condo so my motivation is a lot lower here to relax outside since I value privacy when doing so (especially if one wants to suntan mostly or even entirely nude to maximize skin-sunlight exposure, since generally it's frowned upon to flash your neighbors some privacy is kinda necessary lol)

I have a lot in common with you Cirion. I have learned a lot from your posts. I thought about doing it, but its tough
 
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I have a lot in common with you Cirion. I have learned a lot from your posts. I thought about doing it, but its tough

Cool, I do hope in my struggles maybe others can learn from me. I definitely can't wait for the day I finally become a "success story" and can articulate just what worked and hopefully get others out of the hypothyroid hell too.

Hypothyroid is like an invisible prison that shackles you from living the life you truly want to live. I am definitely tired of it.
 
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So funny speaking of getting rid of screen time... Last night my internet went down, and I was feeling a bit hypo, so I had no interest in anything BUT screen time. So because I had no choice due to internet outage, I went straight to bed instead.

Wouldn't you know it, my temperature improved. Back up to 98F this morning (was in the 97's again in FL).
 

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So funny speaking of getting rid of screen time... Last night my internet went down, and I was feeling a bit hypo, so I had no interest in anything BUT screen time. So because I had no choice due to internet outage, I went straight to bed instead.

Wouldn't you know it, my temperature improved. Back up to 98F this morning (was in the 97's again in FL).

Yeah, sometimes when you feel groggy there's a certain inclination to just overwrite that with stimulation from multimedia but you'd be better off going to bed. I feel that.
 
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Now that I think about it, the last time I was healthy I would often go long periods of time with no games or even watching TV. It was the only way I was able to go to bed at super early hrs like 8 pm.

It's interesting. I think when you're healthy tv and video games are actually boring to you (from personal experience when I've been healthy) and even repulsive and so I would basically use my house for sleeping only. It's like when you're healthy you brain/body has a better inclination as to what is metabolically healthy whereas a hypo person has a broken sense of what is healthy for them (I was just talking about this in another thread where a REALLY hypo brain craves things like porn/excess sex, alcohol, drugs etc.)

Maybe this means then you must FORCE yourself to do what a healthy person would do maybe in some cases? It will be annoying at first and boring but maybe it will pay off? I've never truly been able to go even a week off TV or video games to test this theory though. Maybe I should give it a try. It's easy to pull off during the workweek, I can often pull off 5 days of it. But abstaining during the weekend is the hard part... Lol
 

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Now that I think about it, the last time I was healthy I would often go long periods of time with no games or even watching TV. It was the only way I was able to go to bed at super early hrs like 8 pm.

It's interesting. I think when you're healthy tv and video games are actually boring to you (from personal experience when I've been healthy) and even repulsive and so I would basically use my house for sleeping only. It's like when you're healthy you brain/body has a better inclination as to what is metabolically healthy whereas a hypo person has a broken sense of what is healthy for them (I was just talking about this in another thread where a REALLY hypo brain craves things like porn/excess sex, alcohol, drugs etc.)

Maybe this means then you must FORCE yourself to do what a healthy person would do maybe in some cases? It will be annoying at first and boring but maybe it will pay off? I've never truly been able to go even a week off TV or video games to test this theory though. Maybe I should give it a try. It's easy to pull off during the workweek, I can often pull off 5 days of it. But abstaining during the weekend is the hard part... Lol

Yeah, it's an interesting topic for sure. If you haven't already, check out Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport. Gives you a good framework to pursue what you are talking about. I have to say tho that movies and videogames can be useful in providing a stimulating experience, so maybe in moderation they could actually help achieving better health.
 
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I personally think most stimulation in general is un-wise when hypo. This includes but not limited to: exercise, video games, TV, caffeine, socialization.

Which brings me to my next hypothesis.

Expanding upon my previous thoughts, I know firsthand that certain practices that "healthy people" often partake in is NOT helpful in hypo which include things like socializing, exercise.

This is because these activities, while health promoting in the right context, are only so when you have energy -- which you don't have when hypo so they aren't helpful. When you get energy and the mood strikes you to do either, then they likely will have benefit. But don't do exercise or socialize until the mood strikes you.

But the things healthy people do you DO want to emulate, are things that are calming and energy producing. Like meditation, plenty of quality sleep, Epsom salt baths, abstaining from porn/videogames/TV, sun tanning, of course the right diet, and more.
 
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Also, another thing I potentially learned yesterday.

While a total high carb and calorie count is very important, if you've come to almost the end of the day and realized you were in error, and you feel bad serotonin symptoms / bloating at this point, its actually best to just fast and just go to bed. This is what I did last night. my calorie intake was too low and in the past I'd have just forced myself to eat, which would have bloated me further and made me ultimately gain weight the next morning. I avoided the weight gain AND my temp increased slightly this morning. Eating enough is ideal and you should avoid getting into this situation in the first place, but I think one should be aware of at what point getting the calories actually will NOT be helpful (ie, eating more earlier in the day instead of doing what I did and neglecting to eat until later in the day).

I'm not the hugest fan of fasting and tend to not promote it, but on rare occasion like this, I think it actually did help me. I was bloated almost 3 lb above my waking weight and knew if I ate more I'd just bloat more. You know you're doing good if at the end of the day you're approximately your waking weight, maybe 1-2 lb more at most and this means you're actually digesting/metabolizing what you do eat.

I guess what I'm saying is, if eating is energizing you -> then eat. If it is not, don't eat. I find the high serotonin situation results in eating not only not energizing you, but bloating you and making you gain weight and lose even more energy paradoxically enough and fasting/sleeping seems to be one of the best ways to remove serotonin.
 
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There are many creative indoors hobbies that don't involve screen time. It's something I ought to take on too. I'm guilty of defaulting to screen time too when I have nothing else to do at the end of the day.

I have suspected for some time, that this is the primary reason so many people here fail to improve their health and that I am one of the few that actually got better.

The reason that tired people crave screen time is because the reactive nature of the internet causes the brain to think things there are “urgent”. The body increases stress hormones, so you have energy to do things on your screen you would otherwise be to tired to do.
 
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I have suspected for some time, that this is the primary reason so many people here fail to improve their health and that I am one of the few that actually got better.

Would you expand on this a bit more? What was your approach to get better? I feel like there is likely some truth to this based upon what I've also touched on in a couple of recent posts.

However, I do also find (also touched on in other posts) that any activity that requires energy is NOT helpful when hypo. For example -- Even a lot of house cleaning may not be helpful even though it's way more productive than video games. Yes having a clean house is great. But I've had days where I really cleaned things up then the next day woke up more hypo than ever, probably because I expended way too much energy to do so.

The goal of hypo recovery should be generating energy (eating food/sunlight/maybe targeted supplementation like B vitamins) while also conserving energy (sleeping, meditation, not exercising, avoiding stimulation--caffeine/porn/TV)

I'm gonna give the no TV/video games things an honest effort this week. Wish me luck LOL

Funny, I find #noTV even harder to do than #nofap... But maybe that just goes to show how badly I need to do it? I've managed to do #nofap for months at a time (although lately, I've struggled here too...) but #noTV? Lol. I don't think I have EVER done this for months at a time.
 
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Cirion, how are your bile levels. Is this something you have factored as part of liver health/hypothyroidism. I was reading this article and its pretty interesting. Maybe Ox bile or Ursodeoxycholic acid maybe the solution to kill SIBO and fix hypothyroidism.

Psoriasis Cure Is Bile Flow, Bile Acids Eliminate Endotoxins | PsoriasisDietPlan.com


Would you expand on this a bit more? What was your approach to get better? I feel like there is likely some truth to this based upon what I've also touched on in a couple of recent posts.

However, I do also find (also touched on in other posts) that any activity that requires energy is NOT helpful when hypo. For example -- Even a lot of house cleaning may not be helpful even though it's way more productive than video games. Yes having a clean house is great. But I've had days where I really cleaned things up then the next day woke up more hypo than ever, probably because I expended way too much energy to do so.

The goal of hypo recovery should be generating energy (eating food/sunlight/maybe targeted supplementation like B vitamins) while also conserving energy (sleeping, meditation, not exercising, avoiding stimulation--caffeine/porn/TV)

I'm gonna give the no TV/video games things an honest effort this week. Wish me luck LOL

Funny, I find #noTV even harder to do than #nofap... But maybe that just goes to show how badly I need to do it? I've managed to do #nofap for months at a time (although lately, I've struggled here too...) but #noTV? Lol. I don't think I have EVER done this for months at a time.
 

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I'm gonna give the no TV/video games things an honest effort this week. Wish me luck LOL
I`ve been off tv/games/porn for more than a decade. Feeling like a new person.
Throw your TV unit in the thrash. You`ll never regret.
 
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Haha yeah I don't think I want to throw my computer/TV in the trash tho, there's definitely useful things to do with your computer that aren't watching Netflix or playing games. btw maybe that's the answer to stopping Netflix... just cancel subscription... then you can't use it lol.
 
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One thing I can definitely say for a fact. Stopping the frivolous use of cell phones (i.e., no social media, no online dating apps) is something you must do if you're serious about health. It was easy to stop once I found out how EMF's also negatively impacted my health. Now if I use my phone more than a couple of minutes my brain physically hurts from the EMF, which reminds me it's time to shut it off lol.
 

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Yeah... I tell myself I'm working on improving my health by spending so much time posting on here, reading articles, and listening to interviews, but really it's just information addiction... I probably would get healthier if I ironically stopped trying to learn more about health.
 
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Yeah... I tell myself I'm working on improving my health by spending so much time posting on here, reading articles, and listening to interviews, but really it's just information addiction... I probably would get healthier if I ironically stopped trying to learn more about health.

Well one thing I absolutely must keep and that's my data tracking. Without that I'm screwed. I have made many invaluable discoveries this way. Actually, this has been more valuable than most of the posts here or articles I've read because at the end of the day--Only experimentation actually matters.
 
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Guys, I need your forgiveness, for I have sinned.

.... I had meat today. BUT it was liverwurst, so as far as meat goes, it could be worse, as liverwurst is largely organ meat and not as much muscle meat. Also my overall protein intake for the day is not too high, so maybe it'll be okay.

I also was reminded I have a Thyroid w/ Liver supplement (natural, from beef, not synthetic) supplement that I Forgot about and am thinking of experimenting with, I might as well, I have it after all.
 

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