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My Experiences With Raising Androgens Log (Pansterone, k2, magnoil)

haidut

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Ok!
Even if it’s the same sex? it is a not neutered male
Got full on erection.... had push him off of me haha. Now just waiting for that response from females..

Male dogs sometimes do that, even to other males. Let's see what the females do, that would probably be more informative :):
 

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Male dogs sometimes do that, even to other males. Let's see what the females do, that would probably be more informative :):
haha sounds good
Also what are your thoughts on the poor erection quality and the sleepiness I feel? Estrogen? Or wait until other tests come through?
 

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A 400 point raise in T levels over a timpespan of a week sure seems impressive , I didn't thought that's possible.
To be fair I was doing topical application on wrists a couple weeks before that
However only 1 week of the scrotum
I will edit that later in the post
 

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Maybe estrogen is a little high. Prolactin would be a good measure for estrogen (and dopamin and serotonin as well)

Dopamine is heavily involved in libido. People on cabergoline or bromocriptine sometimes develope hypersexuality.
 

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Maybe estrogen is a little high. Prolactin would be a good measure for estrogen (and dopamin and serotonin as well)

Dopamine is heavily involved in libido. People on cabergoline or bromocriptine sometimes develope hypersexuality.
My prolactin as posted was 9 which is a good level
Certainly not elevated
 

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Why haven't the better hormone numbers caused an improvement in libido and erection quality? Not saying you do but porn and masturbation will have this effect no matter what your hormone levels are
 

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Why haven't the better hormone numbers caused an improvement in libido and erection quality? Not saying you do but porn and masturbation will have this effect no matter what your hormone levels are
I have been away from porn for several years and masturbate very infrequently

I wish I knew!
 

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@scoobydoo You might also want to add a non-aromatizable steroid, like Andro or 11-Keto-DHT. Dont' overdoit, take small doses, I'm sure it will synergize well with Andro.
 

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Just to recap, can we get a general consensus on a reasonable therapeutic dose for a typically hypometabolic average Western male using pregnenolone/DHEA/K2/DHT/andro? Thanks :)
 

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Wanted to update with recent labs:

Total T: 1091
Free T: 265.1 H (35-155)
Estradiol sensitive: 49 H (<29)
FSH: 5.8
LH: 6.4
Progesterone: <.5 (<1.4)

SO NO SUPPRESSION! My LH and FSH are actually higher than prior to taking. My estrogen definitely is high, hence why Androsterone was making my erections better and improved my energy so much. SO I will be now going to 2-3 drops Pansterone (navel) + small doses of Aromasin a few times a week. My progesterone also seems low? Perhaps adding cortinon at night would be beneficial?
 

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Interesting Results!
Are u still using this combo and are you still doing fine on it?
 

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Interesting Results!
Are u still using this combo and are you still doing fine on it?
Hey! I am still doing this yes

I have played around with aromasin for lowering estrogen however it didn’t make me feel good
Androsterone in 1 drop occasionally works much better for me

my muscles are stronger and fuller and I look more masculine
Erections are still fairly weak unfortunately
 

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I've added 4 drops Pansterone + 1 drop Kuinone starting today. Will try to get bloods soon to report any changes.
Where are you applying? And how long will you do this before getting bloods? Also do you have bloods from before starting? Thanks!!
 

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