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My Ears Gets Tired Very Easily And I'm Slowly Losing Hearing

BearWithMe

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I do normal things - ride a silent car, walk a busy street, take a shower, or listen to music, using speakers, at very low volume - and my ears feel like after a rock concert. I'm deafened, I have tinnitus, etc. And I'm slowly losing my hearing, although I'm 100% sure I haven't done anything that actually should cause hearing loss. I'm working from home, in a very quiet environment, I'm rarely traveling, I'm not mowing the lawn, I'm not going to concerts... And I'm not using any ototoxic drugs.

What could be a reason for this?
 

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Quinones and NAD+.
Increase NAD+ with quinones can reverse aging-related hearing loss (R). Things like beta-lapachone, vitamin K2 (MK-4), CoQ10, Thymoquinone, etc.
 
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Very conscientious... Do you use a Q tip as far as you can? Maybe you have a wax blockage. Go see ENT doctor.
 

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Do you have any TMJ issues?
I suspect I have chronic jawbone infection after having very badly infected tooth.

I'm chewing mostly by left side of my mouth, because I'm missing multiple teeth on the right side. The chewing muscles on the right side might atrophed a bit. Interestingly, I'm hearing worse on my right ear.

What is the connection between jaw and hearing? Could this kind of hearing loss be reversed?

Also, I have some problems with joints elsewhere in the body.
 

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Are you subscribed to Dr. Peat's newsletters? His latest one talks about how high lactic acid is associated with arthritis, cancer, liver and kidney disease, and I think these types of issues are connected with hearing loss, vertigo, bone problems, etc. Maybe get a blood test for lactic acid and go from there?

Also milk and liver might be helpful (for calcium, copper, vitamin A) along with vitamins D/E/K. Gelatin as well.
 

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I suspect I have chronic jawbone infection after having very badly infected tooth.

I'm chewing mostly by left side of my mouth, because I'm missing multiple teeth on the right side. The chewing muscles on the right side might atrophed a bit. Interestingly, I'm hearing worse on my right ear.

What is the connection between jaw and hearing? Could this kind of hearing loss be reversed?

Also, I have some problems with joints elsewhere in the body.
Yes, they could very well be connected. Hearing loss is a recognized symptom of TMJ disorders and jaw developmental disorders (surprisingly, vision problems are too, I for example have worse vision and hearing on the less utilized side of my jaw). Problems with joints, if they are functional problems, may be a result of your asymmetric jaw usage. The jaw is, in certain sense, a keystone to the posture, so when it is out of alignment, it will pull the rest of the body with it. I suggest you find yourself a functional orthodontists, they specialise in issues like these.
 

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I suspect I have chronic jawbone infection after having very badly infected tooth.

I'm chewing mostly by left side of my mouth, because I'm missing multiple teeth on the right side. The chewing muscles on the right side might atrophed a bit. Interestingly, I'm hearing worse on my right ear.

What is the connection between jaw and hearing? Could this kind of hearing loss be reversed?

Also, I have some problems with joints elsewhere in the body.
I noticed a jaw soreness had correlated with ear desensitivty on same side of body ( left side in my case ).
 

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Yes, they could very well be connected. Hearing loss is a recognized symptom of TMJ disorders and jaw developmental disorders (surprisingly, vision problems are too, I for example have worse vision and hearing on the less utilized side of my jaw). Problems with joints, if they are functional problems, may be a result of your asymmetric jaw usage. The jaw is, in certain sense, a keystone to the posture, so when it is out of alignment, it will pull the rest of the body with it. I suggest you find yourself a functional orthodontists, they specialise in issues like these.
Wow, this is really interesting, many thanks for sharing! What could be the mechanism behind that? Reduced bloodflow to the inner ear, maybe? Apparently, the artery that is supplying blood to inner ear is going right next to the TMJ. The same artery - internal carotid artery - supplies blood to the eyes too!

Is there anything I could do, to help save my hearing, before I get the jaw fixed? If this is really a blood flow issue, something like ginkgo could help, maybe? If there is something pushing on the artery, reducing the blood flow, how to release it as quickly as possible to save as much hearing as possible? Cold or hot compress, maybe? Red light?

Also, when I'm thinking about it, I have really bad pain in my cervical spine, but just on the right side. On the same side where my worse ear is, and also where my jaw is weaker. The joint in my right knee hurts, the left is fine.
 
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Wow, this is really interesting, many thanks for sharing! What could be the mechanism behind that? Reduced bloodflow to the inner ear, maybe? Apparently, the artery that is supplying blood to inner ear is going right next to the TMJ. The same artery - internal carotid artery - supplies blood to the eyes too!

Is there anything I could do, to help save my hearing, before I get the jaw fixed? If this is really a blood flow issue, something like ginkgo could help, maybe? If there is something pushing on the artery, reducing the blood flow, how to release it as quickly as possible to save as much hearing as possible? Cold or hot compress, maybe? Red light?

Also, when I'm thinking about it, I have really bad pain in my cervical spine, but just on the right side. On the same side where my worse ear is, and also where my jaw is weaker.
Blood flow and nerve inflammation probably have to do with it yes. I'm afraid I'm not knowledgeable enough to aid you further than this. Other users will have better practical advice on how to minimize inflammation etc. Wish you the best.
 

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Blood flow and nerve inflammation probably have to do with it yes. I'm afraid I'm not knowledgeable enough to aid you further than this. Other users will have better practical advice on how to minimize inflammation etc. Wish you the best.
You helped me tremendously, thank you VERY much!!
 

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Have read the study Hans posted. It seems that NAD+ prevents hearing loss exactly by reducing inflammation. So the substances Hans mentioned could be really helpful, even when the hearing loss is not related to the age.

I have increased my K2-MK4 dose and will order some Lapodin and CoQ10 ASAP.

Thank you, Hans!
 

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@TheSir @michael94
I'm really curious, do you hear worse on all frequencies (everything you hear is quiet), or just some frequencies (just the high frequencies for example - you hear like you are underwater - you struggle to hear high pitched sounds, but you hear low pitched sounds normally)? Have you had an audiometry done? How does the curve looks like?

Do you feel any pressure, or fullness in the ear, or around the jaw? Do you feel any pain in the ear? Do you have tinnitus?

Do you hear clicking noises when swallowing?

Is your hearing still the same, or is it better/worse sometimes?
 

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@TheSir @michael94
I'm really curious, do you hear worse on all frequencies (everything you hear is quiet), or just some frequencies (just the high frequencies for example - you hear like you are underwater - you struggle to hear high pitched sounds, but you hear low pitched sounds normally)? Have you had an audiometry done? How does the curve looks like?

Do you feel any pressure, or fullness in the ear, or around the jaw? Do you feel any pain in the ear? Do you have tinnitus?

Do you hear clicking noises when swallowing?

Is your hearing still the same, or is it better/worse sometimes?
Hearing in the worse ear is overall quieter at all times, and there may be a mild dampening/underwater effect going on too. No pain or tinnitus, occassional intermittent dull clicking that seems to sync with hearbeat.

Some clicking within the ear canal is normal when swallowing, it's just air pressure interacting with the eustachian tubes. Yawning should produce a similar noise.
 

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Also, I have some problems with joints elsewhere in the body.

I have tinnitus every day all day (also some jaw clicking, middle ear tension, and massive dental problems, now resolved) so I feel qualified to respond. Mine has gotten better after taking a serious look at my gut and my eating and supplementation habits. So basically I only eat when I'm hungry with a mind on stopping before I'm full, only topical supplementation, and absolutely nothing ingested with excipients outside of aspirin (with starch), glycine (whatever manufacturing residues remain), theanine (same), and magnesium bicarbonate (same). I'm also stiff as hell in the joints, i.e., knee hyperextension, neck girdle is tense and have trouble turning head, and hips, well, they are dead meat I carry around.

That's why I wanted to see how you feel your gut was, if you noticed any connections between symptoms and events during your day. I'm on a steady diet of milk kefir, honey, and coffee and have seen big improvements in mobility and tinnitus, among other things, like emotional stability!

The gut is so important but only a piece of puzzle, albeit a big one.

I looked into auditory therapies for inner ear dysfunction and came away empty handed, mostly because the programs are only sold to licensed clinicians and/or are prohibitively expensive. There's YouTube videos claiming to ease tinnitus, et al, but they're all pretty disturbing. The guy who came up with the Polyvagal Theory (Porges?) has a program that sounds super interesting, they basically have a guy talking or someone singing but they remove certain frequencies or fade them in and out. But only for clinicians.

(I looked for something like this for vision, by the way. Doesn't exist. Closest I came was EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization RSomething). I digress.)

My friend's dad actually owns a company that sells audio programs for autistic kids and his opinion was that this worked for problems that started in the head but wouldn't help if the problem were more systemic or came from somewhere else. Take that for what it's worth but it kind of focused me on my problem coming from somewhere else, down below deck, da gut.

Yawning (and sneezing) is great for loosening the throat up, which seems to pull down? on the ears. Also gag reflex, as in when brushing your tongue when you brush your teeth. Wilhelm Reich (mentioned by Peat several times in articles) was big on the gag reflex to loose up the ocular segment, which is pretty on the ear level vertically-speaking.
 

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Have read the study Hans posted. It seems that NAD+ prevents hearing loss exactly by reducing inflammation. So the substances Hans mentioned could be really helpful, even when the hearing loss is not related to the age.

I have increased my K2-MK4 dose and will order some Lapodin and CoQ10 ASAP.

Thank you, Hans!
My pleasure man. Perhaps you can try the K2 and Lapodin in your ear or at least around your ear and see if that works better.
As a side note, hearing loss is also due to endotoxin and serotonin, so keeping the gut in a good place is paramount.
 

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My pleasure man. Perhaps you can try the K2 and Lapodin in your ear or at least around your ear and see if that works better.
As a side note, hearing loss is also due to endotoxin and serotonin, so keeping the gut in a good place is paramount.

@JanP Might as well mention I was once very, very fond of K2 and would douse my scalp, neck, and shoulders in it. I didn't have an ear (pun intended) for my tinnitus at the time, though it's been an intermittent issue for at least 10 years, way before "Peating," so I can't conclusively say it helped, but my sense of overall wellbeing did increase on it and that's a global indicator for me, the tide rises on many shores so to speak.
 

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Have read the study Hans posted. It seems that NAD+ prevents hearing loss exactly by reducing inflammation. So the substances Hans mentioned could be really helpful, even when the hearing loss is not related to the age.

I have increased my K2-MK4 dose and will order some Lapodin and CoQ10 ASAP.

Thank you, Hans!
please keep us posted about your experience.
i wondering these supp's helps reducing your tinnitus.

ow and i never know this but apparently aspirin can make tinnitus worse. so if you take it...
btw, you dutch?
 

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My pleasure man. Perhaps you can try the K2 and Lapodin in your ear or at least around your ear and see if that works better.
As a side note, hearing loss is also due to endotoxin and serotonin, so keeping the gut in a good place is paramount.
Your posts are incredibly helpful, I really appreciate your messages! Will try that. Many thanks!
 

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I have tinnitus every day all day (also some jaw clicking, middle ear tension, and massive dental problems, now resolved) so I feel qualified to respond. Mine has gotten better after taking a serious look at my gut and my eating and supplementation habits. So basically I only eat when I'm hungry with a mind on stopping before I'm full, only topical supplementation, and absolutely nothing ingested with excipients outside of aspirin (with starch), glycine (whatever manufacturing residues remain), theanine (same), and magnesium bicarbonate (same). I'm also stiff as hell in the joints, i.e., knee hyperextension, neck girdle is tense and have trouble turning head, and hips, well, they are dead meat I carry around.

That's why I wanted to see how you feel your gut was, if you noticed any connections between symptoms and events during your day. I'm on a steady diet of milk kefir, honey, and coffee and have seen big improvements in mobility and tinnitus, among other things, like emotional stability!

The gut is so important but only a piece of puzzle, albeit a big one.

I looked into auditory therapies for inner ear dysfunction and came away empty handed, mostly because the programs are only sold to licensed clinicians and/or are prohibitively expensive. There's YouTube videos claiming to ease tinnitus, et al, but they're all pretty disturbing. The guy who came up with the Polyvagal Theory (Porges?) has a program that sounds super interesting, they basically have a guy talking or someone singing but they remove certain frequencies or fade them in and out. But only for clinicians.

(I looked for something like this for vision, by the way. Doesn't exist. Closest I came was EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization RSomething). I digress.)

My friend's dad actually owns a company that sells audio programs for autistic kids and his opinion was that this worked for problems that started in the head but wouldn't help if the problem were more systemic or came from somewhere else. Take that for what it's worth but it kind of focused me on my problem coming from somewhere else, down below deck, da gut.

Yawning (and sneezing) is great for loosening the throat up, which seems to pull down? on the ears. Also gag reflex, as in when brushing your tongue when you brush your teeth. Wilhelm Reich (mentioned by Peat several times in articles) was big on the gag reflex to loose up the ocular segment, which is pretty on the ear level vertically-speaking.
It is mindblowing, how many anecdotes of various health issues resolving after stopping supplementation / avoiding supplements with excipients there are on this forum. Many thanks for this post, I really need to re-consider my supplements stack and replace my supplements with pure / topical only ASAP.

How long are you avoiding excipients and what other benefits have you experienced?
 

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