Hgreen56
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No he will stone you with some evidenced based reasons fresh from the quran.
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No he will stone you with some evidenced based reasons fresh from the quran.
No he will stone you with some evidenced based reasons fresh from the quran.
Hello,
I think it would be right to say that most of us are in this forum because we want to be the best version of ourselves, have the best health possible and gather a lot of knowledge about the true way to wellness.
Well, my contribution is not going to be precisely medical, or about a supplement, or strictly lab-related.
It's gonna be about what I know more about, the true religion.
Why would you be interested in religion?
- Well, it's more about knowing God. That's the way of seeing it.
You should be interested because from the creation itself we can see He is a wise, powerful, loving God, worthy of praise. You should not be missing it.
Now, if you somehow get to have contact with The Bible, there will be no doubt on the subject.
So, you can guess now: the true religion is Christianism. But the true, original way of it, accordingly to the sound doctrine.
To put it more clearly is the Bible-centered evangelical christianism.
This I consider a contribution to you all because life is seriously meaningless if you don't get to know Jesus Christ. Plus He is the author of salvation of men. I'll explain this now.
Jesus (a.k.a God) came to Earth as we know aproximately 2.000 years ago. He came to pay the price of our sins, which is death. That's why He, being perfect, suffered the unfair punishment of crucifiction;
Like the Bible says:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Jesus is the visible image of God. As he died without any sin commited ever, the grip of death didn't hold him; for God the Father resurrected him on the third day.
We christians have believed in the words and works of Jesus and so through that same God-given faith we have been reconciliated with God.
If Jesus died for us so that we would have eternal life, then believing in his sacrifice and accepting Him as Lord is how we reach that justification.
Nothing else! God did it all for us.
Then, living in holyness is just a consecuence of the believer being saved.
Saved from what? (if you didn't get it yet)
- Saved from the fair and just eternal death (that means conscious suffering) in the lake of fire. A place created by God to punish anybody, be it human or angel, who has decided to walk through the path of sin. Much more if they had turned their backs on the Son of God.
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So, my contribution is this:
While a lot of people here can give useful information about ways to get you into physical health; me, as a servant of God share the gospel with you so that to your health you sum up salvation and eternal life, and true purpose of living (thought you had it or not).
In conclusion: live your life for God, honor Him. Respond to his sacrifice in Jesus Christ with living a holy life, free of sin. Get a Bible, I recommend the KJV (version matters), and read it; learn about Him.
You will see things much more clear, in any aspect. If you care about the things He created and how they work, much more you should care about knowing who made them.
I already pointed you the way.
God bless you.
hopefully you have vpn otherwise they will track you down. (with some evidenced based reasons fresh from the quran ofcourse)Clearly I would be killed on the spot in Pakistan (or France...) if I said out loud what I just wrote about the "prophet".
What dietary choices are forbidden in your beliefsystem?
how old are you and what is your profession? @GuiCHE
In my opinion a good Christian needs only to lead through their actions, and that will be the strongest evangelization of the faith. Christianity’s greatest power comes in its reliance on getting its followers to adhere to a moral code from which a good life comes from. The Christian message of love may be the ultimate realization of human and why it could be considered the eternally true message.
I read bible passages and fall to tears, but I see messages like yours @GuiCHE and cringe.
If to be Christian is to follow the depictions of love and humanity as depicted in the stories of Jesus, then it is a constructive and beneficial thing. I see the gospels and the epistles as nice parables more so than the foundations of a dogma or an organized cult.Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NLT
I can support your statement! There is much beauty in the New Testament, that much is indisputable. For instance:
If to be Christian is to follow the depictions of love and humanity as depicted in the stories of Jesus, then it is a constructive and beneficial thing. I see the gospels and the epistles as nice parables more so than the foundations of a dogma or an organized cult.
I can't claim to be able to disprove or prove if these texts are indeed from divine inspiration. I don't think we can know these things for certain.
There are beautiful texts in the eastern religions as well, or in the Greek Classics. We should take the best bread crumbs of what humanity has left in its wake and not be arrogant about what we can't really know for a fact.
Ultimately I believe the Christian churches will fall way to a new type of spirituality. It’s difficult to wrap my mind around because I still have of unresolved areas of where to mend the good I recognize in Christianity with the secular rationality I’ve inculcated. I’d like to leave behind the notion of God as an omnipotent agent, but it’s difficult to abandon the comfort that comes from having someone who loves me unconditionally. I always go back to Dostoyevsky and his romanticization of the ignorant Christian believer, innocent and naive in so many ways, but filled with a deep sense of purpose, love, and salvation. I’m not sure what mental gymnastics I’ll have to leap to in order to maintain such states of being, or perhaps I’ll forever secretly be an ignorant Christian at heart, knowing fully well that the God I believe in doesn’t exist, but pretending like He just might be listening.
Not to change the subject, but if you talk to Ray again, will you press him further about his ideas on fundamental science? Danny and @haidut did some during their last discussion. But I’m interested in where he thinks physics for example, went of the rails; what principles/ scientists ideas we should look back and resume off of. I know he thinks some more modern scientists have good views too.Thank you for your invitation to something besides materialism and the worship of "science" and the neo-Darwinist digital frontier.
Ray and I talk about, morality, the analog world vs digital and a higher power in my newest interview. It'll be published on the Primitive Initiative Podcast in about a month.
also Yerba mate is one of my favorites, I love the ritual of making it.
and no I'm not Christian
@RealNeat
"Islam is truly evidenced based"
You'll forgive me if I don't think a murderous, hallucinating, slave-owning, caravan-robbing and pedophile 7th century arab is the so-called messenger of god.
The only evidence here is that all of the characteristics I used to describe the "prophet" are attested to in real legitimate sources. I'm not talking about so called 'weak hadiths', I'm referring to Sahih Muslim, the most trusted sources of the Islamic faith.
"The Quran has so much detail and precision"
You mean things like the sun setting in a muddy pool (18:86), or the stars being missiles which kill demons (15:17), or Allah shooting thunderbolts (like Zeus...) (13:13)
Yeah...I don't know what your definition of detail and precision is. But it certainly isn't mine.
Islam is the most nonsensical, convoluted and arbitrary collection of ideas and doctrines. The stories in the Qu'ran are exactly what they seem: a distorted and confused perspective on the christian, jewish, syriac, pagan and byzantine sources which circulated in the middle east and 7th century arabia.
Moreover, I've read many "out there" things on this site, but an attempt to draw parallels between the so-called "prophet" Muhammad and Ray takes the cake.
You've truly made my day! But you know what, I'll be reasonable and I'll read your book when it's done. Just to be fair.
Not to change the subject, but if you talk to Ray again, will you press him further about his ideas on fundamental science? Danny and @haidut did some during their last discussion. But I’m interested in where he thinks physics for example, went of the rails; what principles/ scientists ideas we should look back and resume off of. I know he thinks some more modern scientists have good views too.
If you would ask him to go further into his view on if quantum mechanics can be joined with the neutrino sea/ aether theory. Assuming the aether is fluid like, if fluid dynamics would be a better way to model things (and even extend this to the cell). And assuming the aether theory, how this necessarily means conservation of mass, energy, and the second law of thermodynamics are violated- isn’t it possible the aether provides the “missing link”.
sharing the gospel anywhere is God's contribution, not yours.
Secondly, you didn't share the gospel!