Mauritio
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Thanks ! Interesting , so if nothing works ,I'll gove mutaflor + doxycycline a try.Seems to be similar:
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Thanks ! Interesting , so if nothing works ,I'll gove mutaflor + doxycycline a try.Seems to be similar:
I went through Nissle's document with the help of @Mauritio with google translate and got a few more gems. A bit unclear at times as he says Mutaflor treats things that must have a new name.
-Mutaflor must be given the longer, the more severe and the older the suffering.
-For one of the diseases in question here, the
pernicious anemia, a particularly low coli index is so characteristic that it can be used diagnostically.
-some of the illnesses are 10 or even 20 years old, but only after a 3 to 4 month treatment
were healed.
-I have occasionally received reports from specialists
the use of the agent in fermentation dyspepsia is obtained; According to their results, a mutaflor experiment is worthwhile
by o more than a strict low-carb diet is not
is required.
-For about 20 years I had suffered from constipation, which was not particularly severe, but I happened to learn that the success persisted 6 years after the mutaflor cure.
-According to this experience, acute paratyphoid infections in the form of - food poisoning should also be a suitable object for the use of the agent
-the patients were treated for half a year, even three quarters of a year, and even longer. It is not uncommon for them to request the continuation of the cure themselves, since they feel that it has a beneficial influence.
-I do not think it is excluded that other - diseases of unknown eye (especially
some cases of metabolic diseases) on intestinal intoxications
returned and therefore brought to healing by Mutaflor
can be. The individual cases of gout or
Migraines that have been treated with Mutaflor because of simultaneous colitis and thereby healed indicate this.
I just made the yogurt and it turned out pretty good.Thanks ! Interesting , so if nothing works ,I'll gove mutaflor + doxycycline a try.
I Would go for a lower dose ,at least if you would want to take at for an equal time as mutaflor, which is intended to be taken for a few months . Low dose meaning 20-40mg ,which also doesnt cause antibiotic resistance at that dose .I just made the yogurt and it turned out pretty good.
If you were adding doxy-any idea at what dosage?
Mutaflor has done good things for my digestion/elimination so far.
Thank for this thread.
I'm going to go for the yoghurt as well in the near future. You ordered from USA/CANADA supplier or from European one?I just made the yogurt and it turned out pretty good.
If you were adding doxy-any idea at what dosage?
Mutaflor has done good things for my digestion/elimination so far.
Thank for this thread.
I thought floaters indicate fatty stools?I ordered from the "feelgoodnatural.com" and it got to me in Los Angeles pretty fast with an ice pack.
At age 49, my digestion is slowing down and has probably been slow since I started extreme dieting at age 16.
To be specific. I have noticed healthier and floating stools (sorry if TMI) and a flatter stomach.
I recently started fooling around taking different digestive bitters from Woodland Essence tinctures too (and making them myself- my husband thinks I am crazy making moonshine) so when I read your post about Mutaflor-I ordered it right away. I am thankful for people here sharing their new and interesting experience with things.
Mauritio-Thank you for the info on doxy dosage too.
"Regarding modulation of cytokine profiles, LGG supernatants moderately influenced the secretion of anti‐inflammatory cytokines such as interleukin (IL)‐4, IL‐5, and IL‐10, while those of EcN exerted a broad proinflammatory effect to intestinal epithelial cells by inducing the secretion of proinflammatory cytokines such as IL‐8, monocyte chemotactic protein‐1, transforming growth factor α, tumor necrosis factor α, granulocyte macrophage colony‐stimulating factor, and interferon γ. These results suggested that LGG and EcN might produce different bioactive products that display differential modulation of mucin and cytokines, which may contribute to intestinal health and/or defense against bacteria/pathogens. Practical Application The results suggested that LGG and EcN might produce different bioactive products that display differential modulation of mucin and cytokines, which may contribute to intestinal health and/or defense against bacteria/pathogens."
https://www.researchgate.net/public...inal_Epithelial_HT29-MTX_Cells_Probiotic_supe
Found that in a study. Dont know what to think of that. Mutaflor seems to have a strong pro inflammatory response. I think in an acute case like detox or whatever it's fine, but we certainly dont want chronic inflammation...
Also l rhamnosus(LGG) seems to have the opposite effect ,does that mean it shouldn't be taken together ? Because that's what I'm doing at the moment ...
This is exciting! I ordered on 12/26 and chose the Air mail option to the US and mine isn’t here yet. In the meantime I started florastor for some temporary relief from the diarrhea that was hanging on since the cocoa butter experiment. It’s working. I’m hoping to solve chronic recurring fungal issues that started 20 years ago after 50 days on levaquin.
Uggghh 50 days?!This is exciting! I ordered on 12/26 and chose the Air mail option to the US and mine isn’t here yet. In the meantime I started florastor for some temporary relief from the diarrhea that was hanging on since the cocoa butter experiment. It’s working. I’m hoping to solve chronic recurring fungal issues that started 20 years ago after 50 days on levaquin.
This seems really contrary to other studies and Nissle himself. By all accounts it lowers inflammation over time. Perhaps 6 months max?"Regarding modulation of cytokine profiles, LGG supernatants moderately influenced the secretion of anti‐inflammatory cytokines such as interleukin (IL)‐4, IL‐5, and IL‐10, while those of EcN exerted a broad proinflammatory effect to intestinal epithelial cells by inducing the secretion of proinflammatory cytokines such as IL‐8, monocyte chemotactic protein‐1, transforming growth factor α, tumor necrosis factor α, granulocyte macrophage colony‐stimulating factor, and interferon γ. These results suggested that LGG and EcN might produce different bioactive products that display differential modulation of mucin and cytokines, which may contribute to intestinal health and/or defense against bacteria/pathogens. Practical Application The results suggested that LGG and EcN might produce different bioactive products that display differential modulation of mucin and cytokines, which may contribute to intestinal health and/or defense against bacteria/pathogens."
https://www.researchgate.net/public...inal_Epithelial_HT29-MTX_Cells_Probiotic_supe
Found that in a study. Dont know what to think of that. Mutaflor seems to have a strong pro inflammatory response. I think in an acute case like detox or whatever it's fine, but we certainly dont want chronic inflammation...
Also l rhamnosus(LGG) seems to have the opposite effect ,does that mean it shouldn't be taken together ? Because that's what I'm doing at the moment ...
Wonderful, where would you find such a product?you can more cheaply buy S. Boulardii. Florastor is very expensive. I find this yeast the best diarrhea remedy.