MRNA-Based Covid-19 Vaccines: Possible Integration into the Human Genome

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Both appear to be bad, in terms of risk of integration into our genome. In fact, at least one scientific publication seems to publicly acknowledge that, and still argue for the vaccines b/c "but...but...the virus can also integrate into our DNA, and it is better to be vaccinated than face the natural infection". So, if possible, I would not take either one, and if forced at gunpoint then maybe opt for one of the "traditional" ones like Novavax (if it ever gets approved).

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More than 2 billion people have now received a COVID vaccine, is anyone checking to see if integration into the genome has occurred?
 

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More than 2 billion people have now received a COVID vaccine, is anyone checking to see if integration into the genome has occurred?

I don't think anybody is, as mainstream medicine claims it is impossible for such integration to occur naturally. In a remarkable coincidence of events, I am actually exchanging messages with an MD (Dr. Avi Bitterman: https://twitter.com/AviBittMD) right now over exactly these studies and he dismissed them as "artificial" for using cell lines and methods that cannot happen in real life, despite the studies clearly citing evidence of such integration occurring in vaccinated individuals (for both SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses). Despite the study being accepted by the mainstream and even Science.org discussing it, he fully dismissed the quote below as just ramblings/speculation.
"...The current study only showed this integration in a lab dish, although it also cites published sequence data from humans infected with SARS-CoV-2 that suggest it has happened."

So, with that attitude, my guess is nobody is even bothering to look for such integration, and if it is happening somewhere it will never get reported in MSM.
 
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View: https://twitter.com/chrismasterjohn/status/1497556655466287106?s=21

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New study from Sweden says, Pfizer mRNA does indeed integrate into our DNA Feb 26, 2022
RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL – Swedish lab studies show that mRNA from the ‘vaccines’ does integrate itself into human cellular DNA. This means that a shot of the Pfizer vaccine, taken even once, permanently changes the DNA of affected cells.

For over a year, we’ve been told that mRNA vaccines, including Pfizer and Moderna, don’t integrate with human cell DNA. What the article shows is that in vitro, using a human liver cell line, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine uses a natural reverse transcriptase enzyme called LINE-1, and the genetic code of the vaccine is reverse transcribed into the DNA.

It also explains that vaccine mRNA actually does travel to the liver as one of the preferred sites (the other sites, as we heard, are ovaries and more).

What does it mean? Normally, our cells do the reverse: the cell nucleus, where the DNA is, expresses certain DNA code based on conditions of the cell and produces natural, human messenger RNA. That messenger RNA travels out of the nucleus, where it is expressed into proteins needed for cell building. This is how growing organisms express different genetic programs to grow muscle cells or brain cells, etc. This process is called “transcription”.

For many years, Central Dogma of Molecular Biology stated that the “reverse transcription” — moving genetic code from RNA back into the sacred cellular nuclear and recoding the DNA — was impossible. Eventually, scientists realized that it is possible under various conditions. For example, the HIV RNA virus is able to do so and it reprograms our DNA to produce copies of it. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS.

To effect reverse transcription, enzymes called “reverse transcriptases” are needed. One of them is called LINE-1. Apparently, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine causes cells to produce that LINE-1 enzyme, says the study.

 

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New study from Sweden says, Pfizer mRNA does indeed integrate into our DNA Feb 26, 2022
RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL – Swedish lab studies show that mRNA from the ‘vaccines’ does integrate itself into human cellular DNA. This means that a shot of the Pfizer vaccine, taken even once, permanently changes the DNA of affected cells.

For over a year, we’ve been told that mRNA vaccines, including Pfizer and Moderna, don’t integrate with human cell DNA. What the article shows is that in vitro, using a human liver cell line, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine uses a natural reverse transcriptase enzyme called LINE-1, and the genetic code of the vaccine is reverse transcribed into the DNA.

It also explains that vaccine mRNA actually does travel to the liver as one of the preferred sites (the other sites, as we heard, are ovaries and more).

What does it mean? Normally, our cells do the reverse: the cell nucleus, where the DNA is, expresses certain DNA code based on conditions of the cell and produces natural, human messenger RNA. That messenger RNA travels out of the nucleus, where it is expressed into proteins needed for cell building. This is how growing organisms express different genetic programs to grow muscle cells or brain cells, etc. This process is called “transcription”.

For many years, Central Dogma of Molecular Biology stated that the “reverse transcription” — moving genetic code from RNA back into the sacred cellular nuclear and recoding the DNA — was impossible. Eventually, scientists realized that it is possible under various conditions. For example, the HIV RNA virus is able to do so and it reprograms our DNA to produce copies of it. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS.

To effect reverse transcription, enzymes called “reverse transcriptases” are needed. One of them is called LINE-1. Apparently, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine causes cells to produce that LINE-1 enzyme, says the study.


That study shows in happens in a lab dish and I don’t think it got into DNA in the cell‘s nucleus. Still need an in vivo study.
 

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AIDS: Geocidal Germ for a New World Order? By Dr. Len Horowitz 11/07/2002

By 1993, I had become the chief investigator of the murder theory in the Florida dental AIDS tragedy in the case involving Kimberly Bergalis and her dentist David Acer who was blamed for her infection. While investigating Dr. Acer's belief that the AIDS virus was man-made, I reviewed supporting documentation including a most disturbing document from the Department of Defense (DOD) appropriations request for $10 million for the development; The incriminating Congressional hearing testimony was sent to Dr. Acer by Robert Strecker, M.D.,Ph.D., the first American authority to investigate the man-made theory of AIDS's origin.

I thus began to investigate this document and Dr. Strecker's World Health Organization theory that AIDS and its causative agent the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV-1) was man-made and intentionally transmitted via contaminated vaccines to gay men in New York and Blacks in Central Africa. During the next three years I reviewed more than 2500 pertinent scientific papers and government documents. I was astonished to learn that there was no direct scientific evidence for the natural evolution of HIV-1 from monkeys to man. On the contrary, a large body of evidence that I eventually documented in the book "Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola - Nature, Accident or Intentional?" (Tetrahedron, LLC, 1997) raised the distinct possibility that HIV-1, and its relatives HIV-2 and the simian immunodeficiency viruses (SIVs), more likely evolved as a result of National Cancer Institute (NCI) and DOD cancer virus and/or biological weapons experiments.

Historically, the simultaneous emergence of AIDS in Central Africa and in New York City during the late 1970s closely followed a period of major advances in molecular recombinant biology and retrovirology in the genetic engineering of mutant viruses that acted slowly to produce immune-system decay and an array of outcomes including the development of infectious diseases and traditionally rare cancers.

During the early 1970s, for example, researchers isolated reverse transcriptase, the unique enzyme associated with AIDS and leukemia viruses, both allegedly discovered by Dr. Robert Gallo of the NCI - America's top AIDS researcher. (The AIDS virus is classified as a single stranded RNA retrovirus. Meaning? It takes over by calling for life to operate in reverse causing the creation of new DNA from RNA instead of the usual reverse process.) In related studies, NCI researchers combined synthetic RNA and cat leukemia virus components with human O 'type C' viruses associated with cancers of the lymphatic system. These genetically engineered 'viral hybrids,' as they called them, increased the rate of cellular DNA production as much as 30 times and were also reported to cause leukemia, lymphoma, and sarcoma in the unique immune-suppression cancer complex that never existed on planet earth, in humans, before 1978 with the first cases of AIDS.

Additional studies during this period identified the role of T-lymphocytes, those especially diminished during AIDS, and associated immunosuppression. In fact, NCI scientists elaborated the specific enzymes and other biochemical processes needed to induce immune system collapse.

In 1971, Gallo and colleagues designed an experiment in which specific tumor cell RNA was added directly to 'normal' human lymphocytes. Monkey viruses and mouse parotid tumor viruses were routinely used to deliver foreign cancer-causing RNA into 'normal' human white blood cells. These researchers and others, whose studies largely focused on the sarcoma-leukemia cancer model, commonly modified monkey viruses enabling them to induce immunosuppression, cancer, wasting, and death in monkeys, humans, and lower animals.

Researchers, including Harvard's AIDS Institute director Max Essex, determined that HIV-2 preceded the evolution of HIV-1 and that both viruses share a common ancestor - the simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) from the African green monkey. What Essex and colleagues failed to report is that HIV-1 and -2 could have originated from simian viruses transformed by their laboratory experiments. For example, the DNA in simian viruses was commonly replaced with cat leukemia and chicken sarcoma RNA in NCI research labs.
 

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