MitoLipin - Liquid Saturated Phosphatidylcholine (PC) Mix

[Peater]

@haidut Could you let me know how much vit E is currently in the formula you use for this please?

I think this is one of the best IdeaLabs products I have ever used, I can't explain how but it just feels right.

Not euphoric, not high, just 'right'.

 

[gabys225]

I am curious about the blend as well. My most recent order seems much cloudier but it doesn't precipitate, I am wondering if there is less vitamin E in it.

 

[Fllora]

Haidut, can you please offer a tsp. equivalent to "40 drops"? It comes out not as drops but as an ooze. Thanks.

 

[jordybrunson89]

Im pretty sure this stuff cleared a weird black bump I had on my shoulder for 2 years. Taking off the lid and doing small swigs once a day, and it literally disappeared within 2 weeks.

 

[Limon9]

Ray has written extensively about the mitochondria and its crucial role in health. The structure and contents of the mitochondria undergo extensive change as part of the aging process and one of the most important constituents of mitochondria is the lipid cardiolipin (CL). CL is crucial for the proper function of complex IV (cytochrome C oxidase) of the electron transport chain, and oxidative metabolism as a whole. In addition, there is evidence that CL is also crucial for the proper functioning of Complex III and V.
Cardiolipin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"...In mammalian cells, but also in plant cells,[2][3] cardiolipin (CL) is found almost exclusively in the inner mitochondrial membrane where it is essential for the optimal function of numerous enzymes that are involved in mitochondrial energy metabolism."

"...The enzyme cytochrome c oxidase or Complex IV is a large transmembrane protein complex found in bacteria and the mitochondrion. It is the last enzyme in the respiratory electron transport chain of mitochondria (or bacteria) located in the mitochondrial (or bacterial) membrane. It receives an electron from each of four cytochrome c molecules, and transfers them to one oxygen molecule, converting molecular oxygen to two molecules of water. Complex IV has been shown to require two associated CL molecules in order to maintain its full enzymatic function. Cytochrome bc1(Complex III) also needs cardiolipin to maintain its quaternary structure and to maintains its functional role.[15] Complex V of the oxidative phosphorylation machinery also displays high binding affinity for CL, binding four molecules of CL per molecule of complex V.[16]"

Another important function of CL is the activation of the mitochondrial side-cleavage enzyme, which is responsible for the synthesis of pregnenolone from cholesterol.
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• Cholesterol translocation from outer to the inner membrane of mitochondrial
• Activates mitochondrial cholesterol side-chain cleavage

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Given the importance of CL for proper functioning of mitochondria, it is not surprising that it plays a very important role in both health and disease.

"...Oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation are believed to be contributing factors leading to neuronal loss and mitochondrial dysfunction in the substantia nigra in Parkinson's disease, and may play an early role in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease.[20][21] It is reported that CL content in the brain decreases with aging,[22] and a recent study on rat brain shows it results from lipid peroxidation in mitochondria exposed to free radical stress. Another study shows that the CL biosynthesis pathway may be selectively impaired, causing 20% reduction and composition change of the CL content.[23] It’s also associated with a 15% reduction in linked complex I/III activity of the electron transport chain, which is thought to be a critical factor in the development of Parkinson's disease.[24]"

"...Recently, it is reported that in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease[25] and heart failure[26]， decreased CL levels and change in acyl chain composition are also observed in the mitochondrial dysfunction. However, the role of CL in aging and ischemia/reperfusion is still controversial."

"...Heart disease hits people with diabetes twice as often as people without diabetes. In those with diabetes, cardiovascular complications occur at an earlier age and often result in premature death, making heart disease the major killer of diabetic people. Cardiolipin has recently been found to be deficient in the heart at the earliest stages of diabetes, possibly due to a lipid-digesting enzyme that becomes more active in diabetic heart muscle.[29]"

"...It was first proposed by Otto Heinrich Warburg that cancer originated from irreversible injury to mitochondrial respiration, but the structural basis for this injury has remained elusive. Since cardiolipin is an important phospholipid found almost exclusively in the inner mitochondrial membrane and very essential in maintaining mitochondrial function, it is suggested that abnormalities in CL can impair mitochondrial function and bioenergetics. A study[32] published in 2008 on mouse brain tumors supporting Warburg’s cancer theory shows major abnormalities in CL content or composition in all tumors."

"...Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is debilitating illness of unknown cause that often follows an acute viral infection. According to one research study, 95% of CFS patients have anti-cardiolipin antibodies."


And here are some quotes from Ray that also highlight the importance of CL for mitochondrial function and oxidative metabolism.
Fats, functions and malfunctions.
"...The crucial mitochondrial respiratory enzyme, cytochrome c oxidase, declines with aging (Paradies, et al., 1997), as the lipid cardiolipin declines, and the enzyme's activity can be restored to the level of young animals by adding cardiolipin. The composition of cardiolipin changes with aging, "specifically an increase in highly unsaturated fatty acids" (Lee, et al., 2006). Other lipids, such as a phosphatidylcholine containing two myristic acid groups, can support the enzyme's activity (Hoch, 1992). Even supplementing old animals with hydrogenated peanut oil restores mitochondrial respiration to about 80% of normal (Bronnikov, et al., 2010). Supplementing thyroid hormone increases mitochondrial cardiolipin (Paradies and Ruggiero, 1988). Eliminating the polyunsaturated fats from the diet increases mitochondrial respiration (Rafael, et al., 1984)."

Unsaturated Vegetable Oils: Toxic
"...After weaning, these native fats gradually disappear from the tissues and are replaced by the EFA and their derivatives. The age-related decline in our ability to use oxygen and to produce energy corresponds closely to the substitution of linoleic acid for the endogenous fats, in cardiolipin, which regulates the crucial respiratory enzyme, cytochrome oxidase."

Mitochondria and mortality
"...This fatty acid exposure "decreases glucose tolerance," and undoubtedly explains women's higher incidence of diabetes. While most fatty acids inhibit the oxidation of glucose without immediately inhibiting glycolysis, palmitic acid is unusual, in its inhibition of glycolysis and lactate production without inhibitng oxidation. I assume that this largely has to do with its important function in cardiolipin and cytochrome oxidase."

"...Fewer mitochondrial problems will be considered to be inherited, as we develop an integral view of the ways in which mitochondrial physiology is disrupted. Palmitic acid, which is a major component of the cardiolipin which regulates the main respiratory enzyme, becomes displaced by polyunsaturated fats as aging progresses. Copper tends to be lost from this same enzyme system, and the state of the water is altered as the energetic processes change."

Aspirin, brain, and cancer
"...At birth, the baby's mitochondria contain a phospholipid, cardiolipin, containing palmitic acid, but as the baby eats foods containing poly-unsaturated fatty acids, the palmitic acid in cardiolipin is replaced by the unsaturated fats. As the cardiolipin becomes more unsaturated, it becomes less stable, and less able to support the activity of the crucial respiratory enzyme, cytochrome oxidase. The respiratory activity of the mitochondria declines as the polyunsaturated oils replace palmitic acid, and this change corresponds to the life-long decline of the person's metabolic rate. In old age, a person's life expectancy strongly depends on the amount of oxygen that can be used. When the mitochondria can't use oxygen vigorously, cells must depend on inefficient glycolysis for their energy."

Aging Eyes, Infant Eyes, and Excitable Tissues
"...Cytochrome oxidase is one of the enzymes damaged by stress and by blue light, and activated or restored by red light, thyroid, and progesterone. It's a copper enzyme, so it's likely to be damaged by excess iron. It is most active when it is associated with a mitochondrial lipid, cardiolipin, that contains saturated palmitic acid;the substitution of polyunsaturated fats lowers its activity. Mitochonrial function in general is poisoned by the unsaturated fats, especially arachidonic acid and DHA."


As hinted by one of Ray's quotes above, in order to ensure the proper functioning of the enzyme cytochrome C oxidase, the cardiolipin (CL) must contain saturated fatty acids. If CL has been unsaturated by aging or another process, one way to get it saturated again is to supplement saturated cardiolipin directly. However, that process is unstable and wasteful. As Ray also mentioned, another approach would be to supplement with saturated phosphatidylcholine (PC), which bring saturated fatty acids directly into the CL and re-saturates it back to its state where it was when a person was first born. It is of key importance to note that in order for this process to work, the PC must be saturated - i.e. consist of lecithin linked to one of the saturated fatty acids, with palmitic acid being the most desired. The regular PC sold in stores is highly unsaturated and will not only lack beneficial effect but may actually be harmful.
As such, I have decided to release a supplement called MitoLipin containing saturated PC, more specifically dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine (DPPC) and distearoylphosphatidylcholine (DSPC). Ray has responded to several people over email that if he could fund an affordable source of saturated PC he would probably supplement with it, and suggested doses in the 100mg - 300mg daily, at dinner.
Finally, I would like note that apparent ability of saturated PC to enhance topical absorption of virtually any substance dissolved in it, which is very similar to the properties of DMSO. Thus, applying the supplement (MitoLipin) topically should have excellent absorption, perhaps even better than oral. Some people have commented that PC is used as a choline supplement. Well, it can certainly have that role but in much higher doses. In the amounts present in MitoLipin, the choline is used as a carrier, not so much as a supplement on its own. While it can replace some of the choline in eggs, the goal of MitoLipin is not really to provide choline but to deliver saturated fat deep into the cell where it has trouble getting on its own. Choline carries substances very well through the cytosol and into the mitochondria. As such, quite a few drugs sold on the market use choline as carrier to increase cellular absorption.
To enhance the absorption and entry into the cell, the saturated PC is dissolved in tocopherol and MCT. Below is the summarized information about the supplement and some scientific references in regards to its effects.

Note: This product contains raw material(s) meant for external use only, in cosmetic or other formulations designed for such external use.

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MitoLipin is a dietary supplement containing fully saturated phosphatidylcholine (PC). The saturated PC supports the function and structure of the mitochondrial lipid cardiolipin (CL). The CL is crucial for the proper functioning of several of the electron transport chain complexes (III, IV, and V) responsible for oxidative phosphorylation. The composition of CL changes with aging and becomes increasingly unsaturated. Saturated PC is believed to change the composition of CL back to saturated, as it is found in humans at birth, and thus restore optimal oxidative metabolism inside the mitochondria of every cell. This product, while consisting entirely of food-grade ingredients, is sanctioned for external use only.

Servings per container: about 30
Serving size: 40 drops
Each serving contains the following ingredients:

Dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine (DPPC) - 100mg
Distearoylphosphatidylcholine (DSPC) - 100mg

Other ingredients: add product to shopping cart to see info
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References:


Topical Administration:
The skin-permeation-enhancing effect of phosphatidylcholine: caffeine as a model active ingredient. - PubMed - NCBI
The hypocholesterolemic and antiatherogenic effects of topically applied phosphatidylcholine in rabbits with heritable hypercholesterolemia. - PubMed - NCBI
Effects of phosphatidylcholine on the topical bioavailability of corticosteroids assessed by the human skin blanching assay. - PubMed - NCBI

General/Miscellaneous:
Cell membranes and apoptosis: role of cardiolipin, phosphatidylcholine, and anticancer lipid analogues. - PubMed - NCBI
Biochemical effects of phosphatidylcholine treatment in rats. - PubMed - NCBI
Rapid stopping of A23187 action by phosphatidylcholine. - PubMed - NCBI
Blockade of alpha-adrenergic receptors by analogues of phosphatidylcholine. - PubMed - NCBI
The effect of mixed phosphatidylcholine liposomes on beef heart cytochrome c oxidase [proceedings]. - PubMed - NCBI
Cytochrome c Interaction with Cardiolipin/Phosphatidylcholine Model Membranes: Effect of Cardiolipin Protonation - ScienceDirect
Inhibition of mammalian cytotoxic cells by phosphatidylcholine and its analogue
Studies on cytochrome oxidase. Interactions of the cytochrome oxidase protein with phospholipids and cytochrome c. - PubMed - NCBI

Inflammation:
Anti-inflammatory action of a phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylethanolamine and N-acylphosphatidylethanolamine-enriched diet in carrageenan-induced... - PubMed - NCBI
Anti-inflammatory effects of phosphatidylcholine. - PubMed - NCBI
Protective effect of phosphatidylcholine on lipopolysaccharide-induced acute inflammation in multiple organ injury. - PubMed - NCBI
Soy phosphatidylcholine inhibited TLR4-mediated MCP-1 expression in vascular cells. - PubMed - NCBI

Brain/Memory/Mood/Cognition/Nervous system:
Protective effects of phosphatidylcholine on oxaliplatin-induced neuropathy in rats. - PubMed - NCBI
Dietary phosphatidylcholine improves maze-learning performance in adult mice. - PubMed - NCBI
Impairment of brain mitochondrial functions by β-hemolytic Group B Streptococcus. Effect of cardiolipin and phosphatidylcholine. - PubMed - NCBI
Protective effects of a phosphatidylcholine-enriched diet in lipopolysaccharide-induced experimental neuroinflammation in the rat. - PubMed - NCBI
Effect of phosphatidylcholine on explicit memory. - PubMed - NCBI
A report on phosphatidylcholine therapy in a Down syndrome child. - PubMed - NCBI
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EARLY RESULTS FROM DOUBLE BLIND, PLACEBO CONTROLLED TRIAL OF HIGH DOSE PHOSPHATIDYLCHOLINE IN ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE
[Combination of phosphatidylcholine and pentoxifylline in the therapy of progressive obstructive stroke]. - PubMed - NCBI

Liver/Gallbladder:
Prevention of hepatocarcinogenesis with phosphatidylcholine and menaquinone-4: in vitro and in vivo experiments. - PubMed - NCBI
Accumulation of lipid in rat liver was induced by vitamin B₆ deficiency and was ameliorated by supplemental phosphatidylcholine in the diet. - PubMed - NCBI
Hepatoprotective effect of phosphatidylcholine against carbon tetrachloride liver damage in mice. - PubMed - NCBI
Hyperreactivity of Blood Leukocytes in Patients with NAFLD to Ex Vivo Lipopolysaccharide Treatment Is Modulated by Metformin and Phosphatidylcholin... - PubMed - NCBI
[Effects of phosphatidylcholine pretreatment during acute experimental biliary reflux]. - PubMed - NCBI
Dietary phosphatidylcholine alleviates fatty liver induced by orotic acid. - PubMed - NCBI
Phosphatidylcholine-enriched diet prevents gallstone formation in mice susceptible to cholelithiasis. - PubMed - NCBI
[The effect of phosphatidylcholine on repair processes in liver cells in acute CCl4 damage] - PubMed
Protective effect of phosphatidylcholine on restoration of ethanol-injured hepatocytes related with caveolin-1 - PubMed
Phosphatidylcholine protects against steatosis in mice but not non-alcoholic steatohepatitis - PubMed
Hydrogenated phosphatidylcholine supplementation reduces hepatic lipid levels in mice fed a high-fat diet - PubMed
Prevention of alcohol-induced hepatic fibrosis by phosphatidylcholine - PubMed
Phosphatidylcholine protects against fibrosis and cirrhosis in the baboon - PubMed

Gut/Bowel/GI/Endotoxin:
Exogenous phosphatidylcholine supplementation improves intestinal barrier defense against Clostridium difficile toxin - PubMed
In vitro evidence that phosphatidylcholine protects against indomethacin/bile acid-induced injury to cells - PubMed
Oral phosphatidylcholine preserves the gastrointestinal mucosal barrier during LPS-induced inflammation - PubMed
Phosphatidylcholine for steroid-refractory chronic ulcerative colitis: a randomized trial - PubMed
First multicenter study of modified release phosphatidylcholine "LT-02" in ulcerative colitis: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial in mesalazine-refractory courses - PubMed
Oral phosphatidylcholine pretreatment decreases ischemia-reperfusion-induced methane generation and the inflammatory response in the small intestine - PubMed
Systemic phosphatidylcholine pretreatment protects canine esophageal mucosa during acute experimental biliary reflux - PubMed
Retarded release phosphatidylcholine benefits patients with chronic active ulcerative colitis - PubMed
Microbial species involved in production of 1,2-sn-diacylglycerol and effects of phosphatidylcholine on human fecal microbiota - PubMed
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Heart/Kidney:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23684996
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Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17399847
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This is nice stuff. I share Ray's caution and conservatism about any supplement and have exclusively used D3, K2, aspirin & thyroid for a while now, so am really pleased that 20 drops of oral MitoLipin at dinner is actually quite thermogenic and definitely induced a perceptual/mental shift from excitation to inhibition. I have been moderately hungrier, and the effect is distinct from but additive to vitamin E (does the MitoLipin tocopherol contain policosanol or any of the "impurities" that TocoVit does?)

 

[CastorTroy]

Is saturated phosphatidylcholine found somewhere in nature?

 

[Soren]

Thoughts on Mitolipin reducing sunburn.

Given that the ingredients in Mitolipin help to essentially re-satuarate the cell would taking it help to reduce sunburn? We know that less PUFA in the cell means less sunburn.

 

[Limon9]

Thoughts on Mitolipin reducing sunburn.

Given that the ingredients in Mitolipin help to essentially re-satuarate the cell would taking it help to reduce sunburn? We know that less PUFA in the cell means less sunburn.

There might be some benefit, but you're probably going to waste a large amount of tocopherol applying it topically in any heat-exposed region. SolBan or a DIY equivalent are the most appropriate things for sunburn imo, and likely cheaper

 

[Soren]

There might be some benefit, but you're probably going to waste a large amount of tocopherol applying it topically in any heat-exposed region. SolBan or a DIY equivalent are the most appropriate things for sunburn imo, and likely cheaper

I was talking about the benefits of taking it internally, I've read anecdotal evidence that taking supplemental vitamin E helps reduce sunburn and I'm assuming that is because it helps counter the oxidization of PUFA in the skin I'm wondering if Mitolipin might have an equal or maybe even more profound effect.

 

[Limon9]

I was talking about the benefits of taking it internally, I've read anecdotal evidence that taking supplemental vitamin E helps reduce sunburn and I'm assuming that is because it helps counter the oxidization of PUFA in the skin I'm wondering if Mitolipin might have an equal or maybe even more profound effect.

I think so! We don't really know how quickly this product restructures CL, but the rats in the Bronnikov study were fed the hydrogenated peanut oil for 6 weeks - habitual use would of course provide the most protection

 

[Soren]

Question, my bottle of Mitolipin often gets very thick, to the point where it is impossible to get it out of the bottle. To solve this issue i put in the microwave for 20 seconds give it a good shake and the liquid comes out no problem.

My question is am I damaging the product by microwaving it this way and thereby negating it's positive effects?

 

[Soren]

Anyone get a significant libido boost from this?

I've taken Mitolipin many times in the past but today I took a dose along with Progesterone DHEA, Androsterone and 7-Keto and I the only time I remember feeling this horny was when I was a teenager. Also took some b-vitamins and 500mg of niacinamide, methylene blue and some 10-methoxy harmalan but i've taken those before with the DHEA, Progest, Andro and 7-keto combo and never had this kind of libido boost.

I'm curious as to what might be causing this, i would guess that the re-saturation of the cell and the subsequent improvement of the electron transport chain is the main cause but I do not know.

What i do know is i feel incredible and extremely virile like I haven't since i was a teenager (i'm 33 btw).

 

[Lollipop2]

Question, my bottle of Mitolipin often gets very thick, to the point where it is impossible to get it out of the bottle. To solve this issue i put in the microwave for 20 seconds give it a good shake and the liquid comes out no problem.

My question is am I damaging the product by microwaving it this way and thereby negating it's positive effects?

I don’t trust the microwave. You can put in a pan with hot water on the stove for half a minute and it should be fine. Have you seen these?

What happens to plants given microwaved water?

Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants

Does Microwaved Water Affect Plant Growth? My Grandchildren Did a Research Project for Me.

 

[emarie]

If I got the numbers right, a serving provides less than 30 mg of cholin. So if people have the impression that it's covering cholin needs, it's not.
Choline food sources (to make the perspectives)

Thank you for the info.

 

[haidut]

This is nice stuff. I share Ray's caution and conservatism about any supplement and have exclusively used D3, K2, aspirin & thyroid for a while now, so am really pleased that 20 drops of oral MitoLipin at dinner is actually quite thermogenic and definitely induced a perceptual/mental shift from excitation to inhibition. I have been moderately hungrier, and the effect is distinct from but additive to vitamin E (does the MitoLipin tocopherol contain policosanol or any of the "impurities" that TocoVit does?)

No, it does not. It is dissolved in pure mixed tocopherols tat are also used as the solvent for products such as EstroBan, Pansterone, CortiNon, etc.

 

[Spartan300]

I have been working for more than 5 years at improving my health with Peat's principals but in spite of some tangible progress the one thing that still eludes me is exercise tolerance. Where exercise used to make me feel good/virile etc it now crushes me - poor sleep, tanked libido, heavy limbs etc

I'm interested in trying Mitolipin and wondering whether this could be a missing piece of the puzzle.

Also, does this study conflict on the cardiolipin saturation/unsaturation status? Maybe someone with a deeper understanding of these things than me can comment?

Saturation of acyl chains converts cardiolipin from an antagonist to an activator of Toll-like receptor-4

Cardiolipins (CLs) are tetra-acylated diphosphatidylglycerols found in bacteria, yeast, plants, and animals. In healthy mammals, CLs are unsaturated, whereas saturated CLs are found in blood cells from Barth syndrome patients and in some Gram-positive ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[FitnessMike]

how does this saturated choline form compare wth choline in the egg yolk, can anyone answer this?

Is egg yolk choline saturated?

 

[Hans]

how does this saturated choline form compare wth choline in the egg yolk, can anyone answer this?

Is egg yolk choline saturated?

Egg yolk phosphatidylcholine is mostly saturated and monounsaturated. It does contain a bit of PUFA, but the ratios are really good imo.

 

[FitnessMike]

Egg yolk phosphatidylcholine is mostly saturated and monounsaturated. It does contain a bit of PUFA, but the ratios are really good imo.

Thanks for the input.

So this means that choline in yolks will "deliver saturated fat deep into the cell where it has trouble getting on its own" and will replace PUFA in the cells over time.

Did you try this supplement your self? and will replace PUFA in the cells over time

 

[Hans]

Thanks for the input.

So this means that choline in yolks will "deliver saturated fat deep into the cell where it has trouble getting on its own" and will replace PUFA in the cells over time.

Did you try this supplement your self? and will replace PUFA in the cells over time

Yes I've tried mitolipin, and no, it's unlike to remodel cell membranes and get rid of PUFAs, since the diet still contains PUFA.
I'd rather just stick to eggs or buy a fully hydrogenated soy phosphatidylcholine on alibaba. Much cheaper for much bigger doses. Then I'd use 3g of that daily.