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MitoLipin - Dietary Supplement For Cardiolipin And Mitochondria Support

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. managing

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    My first guess would be that is related to the fact that 99.93% of the choline on the market is unsaturated.

    Pretty bizarre that the authors would draw a link between lecithin and "eggs, liver and other meats, cheese and other dairy products, fish, shellfish" because both groups contain choline and totally ignore the link between lecithin and their precious PUFA because . . . well, they are the same thing.

    I'll be interested in looking closer at the study. But that is jumping out and slapping me in the face.
     
  2. Zpol

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    Good point. In supp's it's usually from soy or sunflower lecithin (bad, bad).

    First I would like to state that I think it's misleading in medical journals and articles to use the term phosphatidylcholine interchangeably with lecithin. Why do they do this!?! It really threw me off in researching this issue. When I re-read the article with the thought in mind that lecithin is comprised of 2 parts; a fatty acid portion (which can be PUFA) and a phosphorus portion (which is the PC). I have a whole new understanding. Thanks for pointing this out managing.

    That said, I think I will start out with the Mitolipin transdermally just to safe, I don't trust my gut flora.
     
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    Oh wow, amazing review! Thanks so much for sharing. If you try on scars and see an effect please share as well.
     
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    Why would it raise arachidonic acid? It does not contain any of it and cannot be used as a precursor for it.
    Care to elaborate?
     
  5. managing

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    Add sunburn recovery to Mitolipin's uses. I recently spent an entire day on the beach--an entire day sunset to sunrise as we were camping. Somehow when I applied sunscreen I missed a palm sized patch on the side of my ankle. Fried. I mean totally fried. I've never had such a bad sunburn before. The next morning flexing the ankle made it feel like the skin was tearing. Considerable swelling also around the effected area.

    I carefully applied 2 drops of Mitolipin. Repeated that evening and the next morning. Next day the bright red was a deep brown and pain was totally gone. No blistering, no peeling. I've had much less severe sunburns when I was a kid that blistered and peeled entirely.
     
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    Excellent, thanks! I need to add this comment to the SolBan thread as well. They may not mix well but maybe using SolBan before sun exposure and MitoLipin for burns would work better than either one alone.
     
  7. Elchapchapchapo

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    Beautiful substance , a warm and welcoming calming sensation. Brings temp up, for example, usually see temps come up .3 to .4 and within 30 minutes or so. Have been using on my rat for about a week consistently as of late and this has brought a nice stability - rat sometimes gets anxious before seeing other female rats and took before - smoothed out system to create an interaction where rat could reveal true self and have fun :D.

    Have to use topically under tongue / swish around mouth as it does not sit well in the stomach.
     
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    Excellent, thanks for the feedback! How much are you using?Have you tried topically?
     
  9. Joeyd

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    @haidut i have a problem when i drink coffee i seem to get peripheral neropathy in my hands. i think its the anticholinergic effects off the coffee as phosphatydl choline does completely stop the pain. Would your mitolipin supplement have a similar pro cholinergic effect and possible help with the CNS/neuropathy i get from coffee. i know peat says regular choline isnt a good idea so i thought your supplement might be ideal. Thanks in advance
     
  10. managing

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    I am not @haidut .

    But I wanted to point out that the reason RP is against "regular" choline is that it is unsaturated, IOW, its PUFA. Haidut's is saturated. It seems like a negligible amount of PUFA, and it is. However, the choline takes it into the mitochondria. And PUFA inside the mitochondria is bad news.
     
  11. Joeyd

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    ok thanks for that. so he's pro choline, just not the unsaturated aspect. so mitolipin would be a great thing to take. thanks
     
  12. Joeyd

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    Which drug is this?
     
  13. managing

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    He means Mitolipin, ie, saturated phosphatidylcholine (PC).
     
  14. Joeyd

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    I know but obviously they weren't using his product. What product did they use?
     
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    Did you change the composition in the end? Sorry I've still got 15 pages of posts to get through!
     
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    Is that from topical use? Are you still using it?
     
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    Is the 00.07% haidut?
     
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    I usually use the full dose, I have tried topical, and notice similiar effects which take a bit longer to occur.
     
  19. managing

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    so far as I know, yes.
     
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    #2 on the healing properties of mitolipin, my rat was preparing for a saturday on the couch after too much lifting on friday (lower back hurt, legs sore) - well not sure why, but 20 drops mitolipin patched that right up :O rat says it feels a bit like prog or 5adhp, also in line with what others have reported
     
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