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HiWhy would you take 15mg for sleep? Past 7.5mg it is stimulatory. You probably just slept poorly (because you took entirely too much) and noticed the effect of a poor nights sleep. I don’t think an anecdotal review from a one time use is very useful.
Mirtazapine is actually pretty peat-y for an SSRI. Lowers cortisol powerfully, improves REM sleep, increases BMR, improves body composition (calories equated), enhances neurosteroid production, increases gut motility, stimulates appetite powerfully, switches the body to prefer carbohydrate metabolism, increases nutrient absorption in the gut, etc.
Why would you take 15mg for sleep? Past 7.5mg it is stimulatory. You probably just slept poorly (because you took entirely too much) and noticed the effect of a poor nights sleep. I don’t think an anecdotal review from a one time use is very useful.
Mirtazapine is actually pretty peat-y for an SSRI. Lowers cortisol powerfully, improves REM sleep, increases BMR, improves body composition (calories equated), enhances neurosteroid production, increases gut motility, stimulates appetite powerfully, switches the body to prefer carbohydrate metabolism, increases nutrient absorption in the gut, etc.
Hiyour right on lowering cortisol but i took it at 7,5mg for 2 years and my face was swollen. also my belly was at 90cm,without its 75. thought it seemed to be edema due to maybe allergic reaction. i think the strong sedation is different in individuals. i was alomst bedridden. cognition was above baseline i admit. also it made me rather horny.
15mg makes me sleep well. It's also not an SSRI.Why would you take 15mg for sleep? Past 7.5mg it is stimulatory. You probably just slept poorly (because you took entirely too much) and noticed the effect of a poor nights sleep. I don’t think an anecdotal review from a one time use is very useful.
Mirtazapine is actually pretty peat-y for an SSRI. Lowers cortisol powerfully, improves REM sleep, increases BMR, improves body composition (calories equated), enhances neurosteroid production, increases gut motility, stimulates appetite powerfully, switches the body to prefer carbohydrate metabolism, increases nutrient absorption in the gut, etc.
Hi, how long did it take for your face to return to normal after stopping mirtazapine? It’s been a week for me and I only notice slight improvementI agree that Mirtazapine and Cyproheptadine make me feel and look older and unrested, even after the initial buildup period, just like after any night of poor sleep. I have experimented with both for several years, from very small to very large doses. In theory it shouldn't be the case, as it should promote deep sleep unlike the more common sleeping pills alternatives, but in practice I am not observing healthy effects.
I now reserve those for sleep emergencies only - hopefully, never.
Generally, dosages above 30 mg have a stimulating effect, but all concentrations have that effect to some degree.Why would you take 15mg for sleep? Past 7.5mg it is stimulatory. You probably just slept poorly (because you took entirely too much) and noticed the effect of a poor nights sleep. I don’t think an anecdotal review from a one time use is very useful.
Mirtazapine is actually pretty peat-y for an SSRI. Lowers cortisol powerfully, improves REM sleep, increases BMR, improves body composition (calories equated), enhances neurosteroid production, increases gut motility, stimulates appetite powerfully, switches the body to prefer carbohydrate metabolism, increases nutrient absorption in the gut, etc.
Generally, dosages above 30 mg have a stimulating effect, but all concentrations have that effect to some degree.
Hi, how long did it take for your face to return to normal after stopping mirtazapine? It’s been a week for me and I only notice slight improvement
Have you tried Phenergan? Does it have the same affect on appearance?I agree that Mirtazapine and Cyproheptadine make me feel and look older and unrested, even after the initial buildup period, just like after any night of poor sleep. I have experimented with both for several years, from very small to very large doses. In theory it shouldn't be the case, as it should promote deep sleep unlike the more common sleeping pills alternatives, but in practice I am not observing healthy effects.
I now reserve those for sleep emergencies only - hopefully, never.
Have you tried Phenergan? Does it have the same affect on appearance?
Interesting, thank you.True. There's no magical difference just that the effects get stronger with the dose.
At some point a dose becomes less effective for sleep and then you need more for the same sedating effect but it does become more stimulating the more you take. But unlike benzos it takes up to 6 months or more for the effect to become less potent.
That’s not true. Mirtazapine has wildly different effects at different dosages because it meets thresholds for receptor affinity at specific doses. Ie at 7.5mg mirtazapine is sedative but at 45mg there is enough to inhibit alpha-2 receptors which causes a net stimulatory effect.True. There's no magical difference just that the effects get stronger with the dose.
At some point a dose becomes less effective for sleep and then you need more for the same sedating effect but it does become more stimulating the more you take. But unlike benzos it takes up to 6 months or more for the effect to become less potent.