Minocycline Anti-depressive / SSRIs Pro-depressive

LeeLemonoil

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Another gem that corrobates much that Peat and Peaters postulate when it comes to depressive disorders, the effects and roles of Tetracyclines and Serotonin/SSRIs in particular.

Publication from 2019:

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner - PubMed

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner

Abstract
Major depressive disorder is the main cause of disability worldwide with imperfect treatment options. However, novel therapeutic approaches are currently discussed, from augmentation strategies to novel treatments targeting the immune system or the microbiome-gut-brain axis. Therefore, we examined the potential beneficial effects of minocycline, a tetracycline antibiotic with pleiotropic, immunomodulatory action, alone or as augmentation of escitalopram on behavior, prefrontal microglial density, and the gut microbiome in rats selectively bred for high anxiety-like behavior (HAB). We show that concomitant with their high innate anxiety and depression, HABs have lower microglial numbers in the infralimbic and prelimbic prefrontal cortex and an altered gut microbiota composition compared with controls. Three weeks of minocycline treatment alleviated the depressive-like phenotype, further reduced microglial density, exclusively in male HAB rats, and reduced plasma concentrations of pro-inflammatory cytokines. However, coadministration of escitalopram, which had no effect alone, prevented these minocycline-induced effects. Moreover, minocycline led to a robust shift in cecal microbial composition in both HABs and rats non-selected for anxiety-like behavior. Minocycline markedly increased relative abundance of Lachnospiraceae and Clostridiales Family XIII, families known for their butyrate production, with a corresponding increase and positive correlation in plasma 3-OH-butyrate levels in a trait-dependent manner. Thus, our data suggest that the antidepressant effect of minocycline is sex- and trait-dependent, associated with a reduced microglial number in the prefrontal cortex, and with changes in microbial composition and their metabolites. These results further support the microbiome-gut-brain axis as potential target in the treatment of depression.


Someone recently here also posted studies showing that butyrate titers in the blood are a sign or cause of anti-inflammatory general condition or effects.

Note that this is a murine study and also note that this is a short-term intervention. I perosnaly think that long-term adminitration of minocycline is problematic and can result in pro-depressive and pro-inflammatory conditions

Nevertheless, Peat right again

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Another gem that corrobates much that Peat and Peaters postulate when it comes to depressive disorders, the effects and roles of Tetracyclines and Serotonin/SSRIs in particular.

Publication from 2019:

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner - PubMed

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner

Abstract
Major depressive disorder is the main cause of disability worldwide with imperfect treatment options. However, novel therapeutic approaches are currently discussed, from augmentation strategies to novel treatments targeting the immune system or the microbiome-gut-brain axis. Therefore, we examined the potential beneficial effects of minocycline, a tetracycline antibiotic with pleiotropic, immunomodulatory action, alone or as augmentation of escitalopram on behavior, prefrontal microglial density, and the gut microbiome in rats selectively bred for high anxiety-like behavior (HAB). We show that concomitant with their high innate anxiety and depression, HABs have lower microglial numbers in the infralimbic and prelimbic prefrontal cortex and an altered gut microbiota composition compared with controls. Three weeks of minocycline treatment alleviated the depressive-like phenotype, further reduced microglial density, exclusively in male HAB rats, and reduced plasma concentrations of pro-inflammatory cytokines. However, coadministration of escitalopram, which had no effect alone, prevented these minocycline-induced effects. Moreover, minocycline led to a robust shift in cecal microbial composition in both HABs and rats non-selected for anxiety-like behavior. Minocycline markedly increased relative abundance of Lachnospiraceae and Clostridiales Family XIII, families known for their butyrate production, with a corresponding increase and positive correlation in plasma 3-OH-butyrate levels in a trait-dependent manner. Thus, our data suggest that the antidepressant effect of minocycline is sex- and trait-dependent, associated with a reduced microglial number in the prefrontal cortex, and with changes in microbial composition and their metabolites. These results further support the microbiome-gut-brain axis as potential target in the treatment of depression.


Someone recently here also posted studies showing that butyrate titers in the blood are a sign or cause of anti-inflammatory general condition or effects.

Note that this is a murine study and also note that this is a short-term intervention. I perosnaly think that long-term adminitration of minocycline is problematic and can result in pro-depressive and pro-inflammatory conditions

Nevertheless, Peat right again

@haidut
Another gem that corrobates much that Peat and Peaters postulate when it comes to depressive disorders, the effects and roles of Tetracyclines and Serotonin/SSRIs in particular.

Publication from 2019:

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner - PubMed

Minocycline alters behavior, microglia and the gut microbiome in a trait-anxiety-dependent manner

Abstract
Major depressive disorder is the main cause of disability worldwide with imperfect treatment options. However, novel therapeutic approaches are currently discussed, from augmentation strategies to novel treatments targeting the immune system or the microbiome-gut-brain axis. Therefore, we examined the potential beneficial effects of minocycline, a tetracycline antibiotic with pleiotropic, immunomodulatory action, alone or as augmentation of escitalopram on behavior, prefrontal microglial density, and the gut microbiome in rats selectively bred for high anxiety-like behavior (HAB). We show that concomitant with their high innate anxiety and depression, HABs have lower microglial numbers in the infralimbic and prelimbic prefrontal cortex and an altered gut microbiota composition compared with controls. Three weeks of minocycline treatment alleviated the depressive-like phenotype, further reduced microglial density, exclusively in male HAB rats, and reduced plasma concentrations of pro-inflammatory cytokines. However, coadministration of escitalopram, which had no effect alone, prevented these minocycline-induced effects. Moreover, minocycline led to a robust shift in cecal microbial composition in both HABs and rats non-selected for anxiety-like behavior. Minocycline markedly increased relative abundance of Lachnospiraceae and Clostridiales Family XIII, families known for their butyrate production, with a corresponding increase and positive correlation in plasma 3-OH-butyrate levels in a trait-dependent manner. Thus, our data suggest that the antidepressant effect of minocycline is sex- and trait-dependent, associated with a reduced microglial number in the prefrontal cortex, and with changes in microbial composition and their metabolites. These results further support the microbiome-gut-brain axis as potential target in the treatment of depression.


Someone recently here also posted studies showing that butyrate titers in the blood are a sign or cause of anti-inflammatory general condition or effects.

Note that this is a murine study and also note that this is a short-term intervention. I perosnaly think that long-term adminitration of minocycline is problematic and can result in pro-depressive and pro-inflammatory conditions

Nevertheless, Peat right again

@haidut
 

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How long would you suggest one with gut issues, and depressive , low energy take this?
I picked up a few packs in Costa Rica and my partner is the one with this issue.
I’ve now had him take 1 a night before bed- it’s 100mg
 
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In the meantime my personal view about tetracyclines „refined“ a bit.

Do not take them long term, better to cycle short periods of taking with month of not.

50mg is sufficient. Maybe 10 Tablets at 50mg. I’d even suggest taking it every other day. Monday - Tuesday off - Wednesday- Thursday of and so on.

The anti-depressive effects of tetracyclines are in my opinion a hormetic Effect on Mitos and the anti-phlogiston action. Both achieved with 50mg.

Long term use can wreck mitos and thyroid though - that’s my conclusion of everything I’ve read and experienced mind, not Peats view
 

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@Shontelle

In the meantime my personal view about tetracyclines „refined“ a bit.

Do not take them long term, better to cycle short periods of taking with month of not.

50mg is sufficient. Maybe 10 Tablets at 50mg. I’d even suggest taking it every other day. Monday - Tuesday off - Wednesday- Thursday of and so on.



Thank you so much for this. It’s what I was thinking also.

The anti-depressive effects of tetracyclines are in my opinion a hormetic Effect on Mitos and the anti-phlogiston action. Both achieved with 50mg.

Long term use can wreck mitos and thyroid though - that’s my conclusion of everything I’ve read and experienced mind, not Peats view
 
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