Hi everyone
I have been contending w/ a new problem since about June. I had been supplementing 1mg/day molybdenum in a hope of dealing with issues tolerating thiols. I was humming along on this diet and protocol and feeling like I had finally figured all my problems out. After about 2 months of doing this I abruptly started having broken capillaries, the beginnings of varicose veins, bulging veins on my hands/feet/arms/temples, sharp pains in the veins in my feet, bruising around my ankles, and worsened allergy shiners. The veins in my right arm crook now permanently stick out. Molybdenum strongly opposes copper and can remove it from the body, much more strongly than even zinc which I've previously also supplemented.
After some trial and error I concluded I had messed up my copper levels and started aggressively supplementing copper glycinate and well as chlorophyll, total 4-10 mg copper per day. The problem seemed to be very slowly subsiding (taking horse chestnut may have helped as well).
However, any small amount of zinc supplement will now set me back almost to the beginning of my recovery from this problem (another clue that I'm right about the deficiency). I have histamine intolerance and people with HIT theoretically have heavier demands on copper due to its need in enzymes that break histamine down and tend to have low levels. Having experimented with zinc to deal with some estrogen and viral issues the other week I'm now dealing with worsened vein problems all over. Fluid pools under my eyes more easily which is particularly stressful for me. Energy drinks seem to make the problem much worse as well.
Obviously I don't plan on supplementing zinc anymore (maybe ever again). But is it possible for my copper status to be that delicate? I find it so strange yet it seems to be the case. I want to get my levels up enough that I have some buffer but it seems harder then expected.
I don't have health insurance but I'm considering paying out of pocket for some blood tests, however I have heard they aren't very conclusive for mineral status. Does anyone have ideas about this ? I'm considering taking larger quantities of copper but I understand it can be dangerous.
I have been contending w/ a new problem since about June. I had been supplementing 1mg/day molybdenum in a hope of dealing with issues tolerating thiols. I was humming along on this diet and protocol and feeling like I had finally figured all my problems out. After about 2 months of doing this I abruptly started having broken capillaries, the beginnings of varicose veins, bulging veins on my hands/feet/arms/temples, sharp pains in the veins in my feet, bruising around my ankles, and worsened allergy shiners. The veins in my right arm crook now permanently stick out. Molybdenum strongly opposes copper and can remove it from the body, much more strongly than even zinc which I've previously also supplemented.
After some trial and error I concluded I had messed up my copper levels and started aggressively supplementing copper glycinate and well as chlorophyll, total 4-10 mg copper per day. The problem seemed to be very slowly subsiding (taking horse chestnut may have helped as well).
However, any small amount of zinc supplement will now set me back almost to the beginning of my recovery from this problem (another clue that I'm right about the deficiency). I have histamine intolerance and people with HIT theoretically have heavier demands on copper due to its need in enzymes that break histamine down and tend to have low levels. Having experimented with zinc to deal with some estrogen and viral issues the other week I'm now dealing with worsened vein problems all over. Fluid pools under my eyes more easily which is particularly stressful for me. Energy drinks seem to make the problem much worse as well.
Obviously I don't plan on supplementing zinc anymore (maybe ever again). But is it possible for my copper status to be that delicate? I find it so strange yet it seems to be the case. I want to get my levels up enough that I have some buffer but it seems harder then expected.
I don't have health insurance but I'm considering paying out of pocket for some blood tests, however I have heard they aren't very conclusive for mineral status. Does anyone have ideas about this ? I'm considering taking larger quantities of copper but I understand it can be dangerous.
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