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MelaNon - Liquid Apigenin/Naringenin Mix

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Albina

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    Would this work on a vascular lake located on the lower lip?
     
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    It may as apigenin is considered a phytoprogestin, and progesterone seems to help such issues.
     
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    thanks - it's worth a try! Derm said nothing could be done to remove it.
     
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    @haidut Do you think this could have any beneficial systemic effects? And what is the reason for removing caffeine on this product?
     
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    Not sure if it would have systemic effects from such small doses but apigenin and naringenin are 11b-HSD1 inhibitors, so could lower cortisol in some people.
    Comparison of flavonoids and isoflavonoids to inhibit rat and human 11β-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase 1 and 2. - PubMed - NCBI

    Caffeine was affecting the solubility of apigenin and naringenin so we decided to remove it, especially considering that it was not the main active ingredient anyways.
     
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    @haidut. I accidentally put a drop of melanon in my eye (thought it was my morning eye drop). Attempted to wash it out and it still is burning. Will this harm my eye?
     
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    One drop is probably not going to do much/any damage. The only risky part is the ethanol but there is not much ethanol in one drop. If the redness/irritation does not subside within a few days I would see a doctor but as I mentioned there is nothing really dangerous in MelaNon and the ethanol in one drop is unlikely to cause issues. That being said, I would not apply MelaNon to the eye :):
     
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    Thanks so much for your quick response. Of course I’m late now for a root canal that has failed 3 times so I don’t have time to continue washing the eye. When I get back I will irrigate again - it’s pretty red and sore.
     
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    I've stumbled across this, and I'd like to ask: has anyone had success with it for broken capillaries? The DMSO sounds interesting, as I believe it takes ingredients through the skin barrier, presumably to where they need to be to heal these things?
     
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    Hi, how was your experience with this product? I just started using not too long ago. The first few times I did a patted application all over face and cheeks. I have sligh discoloration in some areas. On another occasion I applied a little bit more then a few drops and I started to feel tingles all over face. I went to look in the mirror and it was slightly white patchy raised bump. I immediately washed it off (it burned) I applied some vite e afterwards to calm the skin. Nothing too bad, just strong and redness that quickly subsided. Trying again, with a smaller dose and hoping I don’t have the same reaction.

    I have a theory on why I may have felt the burning the second time around using it. I remember using my origins (plan prescriptions) face wash. It’s a mild soap/cleanser. So I’m going to make sure to apply this product alone with out anything else before or after. I think anyone who has sensitive skin should do so as well. And to go easy on the application when first using. Taking it slowly, if using for blemishes/all over face. I will keep you guys updated on any improvements. Also, if anyone else is using on face please let me know your findings. I appreciate it. Thanks!
     
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    So far, I was able to remove dark skin off the upper corners of my nose close to the eye area. I applied two drops twice /different days. First layer of skin cane off along with darkness (of what seem to be sun damage) now revealing a brand new skin. I have used it in dark moles. It’s not working. But my mole Are not like light in color. It’s like those dark black beauty moles. I have on my cheek which I don’t mind. But then I have 3 more in several places and I don’t like them there for cosmetic purposes. So far melanon is not doing much for my Moles.
     
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    Haidut, hi there. I’ve mentioned I’ve been using your products. My husband does as well. We are completely clean/healthy ray supporters. I was wondering if you can shed some light on something that has happened recently since taking idealabs suppliments. I use solban, melanon & retinil. Ever since I started using this on face/spots etc. I have crazy symptoms of sneezing after immediate application. I thought it was just mild etc. but 3 weeks in & I have what Spears to be mast cell activation. Digestive issues, I’m in a complete stressed state. I kept using products until I decided I should stop. Since then I have become allergic to everything almost.

    After reading/ research I have decided that I’m reacting to DMSO. I read it could possibly distroy red blood cells? Not sure if any this makes since but BOTTOM. The suppliments were the only suspicion. Any advise is welcome.

    POSITIVE NOTE, I LOOK 10 YEARS YOUNGER!! Something thought I was in my late 20’s the other day. I’m 34. I used solban before heading out as sun protection, and also applied it the morning after sun exposures (on face/cheeks) I had large pores, complete gone. Not reduced, GONE. Brighter complexion, instantly after applying. Melanon used as a spot treatment. Retinil at night, around cheekbones and jawline. I would wake up with a nice fresh dewy plumped face. There was mild peeling (due to its exfoliating effects) when this happens I would take some 100% good quality olive and massage all lover face, steam face with towel & gently slough off fleck you skin (gently) I would do this on days I’m not applying any. Just bare face. This prevents irritation of skin. I never mind or over did things. I slowly worked up and alternating prod outs/different days. I was able to get rid of discoloration, pores and tired saggy skin. (For those who are looking for a peaty spa-like effect)

    But I’m sad to say I will need stop using untill I find out what’s happening in my system. Thanks for ready & responding! ladies ask away...
     
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    Only MelaNon and Magnoil use DMSO. All other products have been moved to the SFA/ethanol or tocopherol/MCT solvent. The DMSO can certainly cause skin irritation in some people so I would stop that for a week and see if issues resolve. None of the other products have been reported to cause allergies so MelaNon remains the main suspect.
    So, please try without MelaNon for a week and let me know how it goes.
     
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    Well, I was sort of confused at first. So I decided to stop all products and re introduce slowly... and see how it goes. I will add melanon back in first & keep you updated. I also forgot to mention I start sneezing repeatedly after spraying solban, so I may need another method of application. Or pinching my nose closed tight and then spraying..

    Bottom line I love your products. They do work....
     
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    Thanks you! Please keep me posted on effects after you restart.
     
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    how long did the process take in total?
     
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    haidut do you think melanon would suitable to apply to the scalp to perhaps help with hair loss?
     
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    Both naringenin and apigenin are phytoprogestogens, so they should have effects similar to progesterone. Since Peat recommended progesterone on scalp as hairloss treatment I guess it could be tried with MelaNon as well.
     
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