Magnesium In Coffee

[Syncopated]

Take magnesium oxide. Always take it BEFORE meals. A few minutes before is good. 1/8th of a teaspoon every 12 hours is all that is needed and bowel habits become regular with no diarrhoea, especially if T3 is used.

 

[raypeatclips]

I have wondered if the caffeine aspect of coffee makes its magnesium content more "potent." With thyroid retaining magnesium, and caffeine being thyroid mimetic.

 

[shepherdgirl]

I would think that cold brew might be higher in some minerals because of the long contact with water. On the other hand it is not bitter - wouldn't that imply a lower tannin content?

 

[schultz]

I just take a couple 100mg caffeine pills in the morning. I don't understand the importance of coffee. It's expensive compared to caffeine pills and Clark's research has shown that the chlorogenic acid in coffee is allergenic and erodes the hypothalamus. Magnesium oxide powder is extremely cheap and pure. A few milligrams of niacin is no justification for ingesting chlorogenic acid.

Coffee is enjoyable to drink *gasp!* ... I don't get the same level of enjoyment from caffeine pills and magnesium oxide powder.

Chlorogenic acid erodes the hypothalamus? I am doubting this statement. Do you have research showing this?

 

[Peater Piper]

I just take a couple 100mg caffeine pills in the morning. I don't understand the importance of coffee. It's expensive compared to caffeine pills and Clark's research has shown that the chlorogenic acid in coffee is allergenic and erodes the hypothalamus. Magnesium oxide powder is extremely cheap and pure. A few milligrams of niacin is no justification for ingesting chlorogenic acid.

That's the first I've heard of chlorogenic acid having that effect. Can you point me to more information? All I could find came from these links.

We all have Parasites

In a healthy person chlorogenic acid goes straight to the hypothalamus after eating it. But in five minutes, at most 20 minutes, it is gone. It has been detoxified, digested, or removed.

In a cancer patient it never disappears. A tiny wormlet is present, microscopically small. It is Strongyloides stercalis. This wormlet belongs to the roundworm family, not the flukes, nor the tapeworms. Its larval stages have molts. Molting brings special molting chemicals. Perhaps it is one of these that interfere with the removal of chlorogenic acid from the hypothalamus. Maybe this wormlet needs this food antigen to molt or accomplish other purposes. The worm is never there unless chlorogenic acid is there.

How a Cancer Begins

An extraordinary chemical has accumulated in the hypothalamus gland of the brain whenever it is loosening its cells and letting them go free into the circulation. This chemical is absent when there are no cells being shed. All cancer patients have such an accumulation and it is the same chemical for each.

The chemical is called chlorogenic acid, a well-known plant compound! It is considered an antigen (or allergen) by "ecological allergy" specialists. It is known by botanists to be a common "intermediate" in plant growth, often taking part in the forming of fruits and vegetables. It is there naturally, although how plants grow and ripen must surely affect the chemicals produced in them. How foods are cooked could also affect this chemical. Research is badly needed.

Not real helpful. Chlorogenic acid in mainstream circles (which admittedly may not count for much) shows chlorogenic acid to be quite beneficial. Here's several studies showing it's protective mechanisms in the brain:

Chlorogenic acid ameliorates brain damage and edema by inhibiting matrix metalloproteinase-2 and 9 in a rat model of focal cerebral ischemia. - PubMed - NCBI
Therapeutic efficacy of chlorogenic acid on cadmium-induced oxidative neuropathy in a murine model

Coffee may offer benefits apart from the caffeine, and compounds may synergize with caffeine:

Coffee, but not caffeine, has positive effects on cognition and psychomotor behavior in aging. - PubMed - NCBI
Medscape: Medscape Access
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422521

 

[gilson dantas]

"Coffee also seems to lower the levels of certain circulating b-vitamins, resulting in raised homocysteine: Coffee consumption and circulating B-vitamins in healthy middle-aged men and women. - PubMed - NCBI"
Does anyone know anything that denies this information? Or is it a real information?

 

[abruzzi]

This study: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814611010880 shows the magnesium content of instant coffee to be quite high, not to mention other minerals.

The pic below was taken from that study...
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100g of instant is quite a bit of coffee though. Ray has mentioned he tries to drink 5 strong cups of coffee a day. Based on how much niacin he says this 5 cups has (near 40mg), it seems each one of his strong coffees is equivalent to about 3 cups of regular coffee. I think it would be about 60g of instant coffee.

This study: Tea and coffee as sources of some minerals in the New Zealand diet. - PubMed - NCBI has a table showing the mineral content of coffee taken from other studies.

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Looking at the data from the 2 Finland studies, you can see that 60g of beans made into a litre of coffee contains 73-80mg of magnesium in the first analysis and 110-120mg in the second analysis.

I personally use 30g of beans to make 1 cup of concentrated coffee (I use it for latte's) and I drink about 5-7 of these a day. Assuming 40mg of magnesium for 30g of beans (which is actually on the lower side according to the table above) I would be getting 200-280mg of magnesium from coffee a day. That's at least half of the RDA for magnesium from a food that has almost zero calories.

Look at the other minerals as well!
From 5 cups of strong coffee (150g of beans) you can get approximately...
1800mg Potassium
220mg Magnesium
1mg of Manganese
36mg of Niacin (depending on roast)
9mg B5
3mg B2
0.5mg B1
1,500mg of Caffeine

So I guess the amount of magnesium may not be significant if you don't drink much coffee, but for people who drink quite a bit, getting 50% of the RDA for magnesium from coffee is quite easy. That seems significant to me.

Sooo, were are suppose to drink instant espresso coffee if we don't have an espresso machine?

 

[schultz]

Sooo, were are suppose to drink instant espresso coffee if we don't have an espresso machine?

I think you should drink whatever kind of coffee you enjoy most. I currently drink instant coffee because it is convenient and this particular instant coffee tastes pretty good as a latte (most of them are really bad). I was at somebodies house yesterday who has quite a nice espresso/latte machine and the latte he made me was incredible.

Darker roasts have more niacin.

 

[Sherbert]

This study: Intra- and interspecific mineral composition variability of commercial instant coffees and coffee substitutes: Contribution to mineral intake shows the magnesium content of instant coffee to be quite high, not to mention other minerals.

The pic below was taken from that study...
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100g of instant is quite a bit of coffee though. Ray has mentioned he tries to drink 5 strong cups of coffee a day. Based on how much niacin he says this 5 cups has (near 40mg), it seems each one of his strong coffees is equivalent to about 3 cups of regular coffee. I think it would be about 60g of instant coffee.

This study: Tea and coffee as sources of some minerals in the New Zealand diet - PubMed has a table showing the mineral content of coffee taken from other studies.

View attachment 1980

Looking at the data from the 2 Finland studies, you can see that 60g of beans made into a litre of coffee contains 73-80mg of magnesium in the first analysis and 110-120mg in the second analysis.

I personally use 30g of beans to make 1 cup of concentrated coffee (I use it for latte's) and I drink about 5-7 of these a day. Assuming 40mg of magnesium for 30g of beans (which is actually on the lower side according to the table above) I would be getting 200-280mg of magnesium from coffee a day. That's at least half of the RDA for magnesium from a food that has almost zero calories.

Look at the other minerals as well!
From 5 cups of strong coffee (150g of beans) you can get approximately...
1800mg Potassium
220mg Magnesium
1mg of Manganese
36mg of Niacin (depending on roast)
9mg B5
3mg B2
0.5mg B1
1,500mg of Caffeine

So I guess the amount of magnesium may not be significant if you don't drink much coffee, but for people who drink quite a bit, getting 50% of the RDA for magnesium from coffee is quite easy. That seems significant to me.

wow the swedes and the finns sure go crazy with their tea and coffee ️

 

[Metabolism_Red]

i have found these two brand of instant coffee to be my favorite. I mix with milk and sugar and they taste amazing. Does anyone have any idea on the magnesium content of these type of instant coffee for like 1 tsp or 1 tbsp?

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

One teaspoon of curry powder provides you with ~ 5 mg magnesium. How much curry powder can you stomach?

If you have more suggestions on good food sources of magnesium please post in sub-forum Minerals .

Nettle, artichoke, and white sweet potatoes are good sources of magnesium, and I eat them all. Defatted peanut powder is another good source….