Mad Cow Disease May Be A Mitochondrial/metabolic Issue

[Perry Staltic]

Okay well next question would be what are some implementations that would help fight this disease at all ? If any ? I see the article talks about mitochondria what in particular could one actually do.

My thought would be to look for and eliminate excess manganese in environment and diet and make sure there is sufficient copper in diet. Purdy hypothesized that when Mn replaces Cu in brain tissues it disrupts electrical conductivity. Mn is not a good conductor, but acts like a capacitor that stores energy. Then at some point it releases it all at once causing cellular damage.

 

[Perry Staltic]

My thought would be to look for and eliminate excess manganese in environment and diet and make sure there is sufficient copper in diet. Purdy hypothesized that when Mn replaces Cu in brain tissues it disrupts electrical conductivity. Mn is not a good conductor, but acts like a capacitor that stores energy. Then at some point it releases it all at once causing cellular damage.

And possibly, avoid glyphosate. This study implicates Mn, but in the opposite direction, i.e., a Mn deficiency facilitates mitochondrial dysfunction, which is more inline with the original study in this thread.

Manganese (Mn) is an often overlooked but important nutrient, required in small amounts for multiple essential functions in the body. A recent study on cows fed genetically modified Roundup®-Ready feed revealed a severe depletion of serum Mn. Glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup®, has also been shown to severely deplete Mn levels in plants. Here, we investigate the impact of Mn on physiology, and its association with gut dysbiosis as well as neuropathologies such as autism, Alzheimer's disease (AD), depression, anxiety syndrome, Parkinson's disease (PD), and prion diseases. Glutamate overexpression in the brain in association with autism, AD, and other neurological diseases can be explained by Mn deficiency. Mn superoxide dismutase protects mitochondria from oxidative damage,

Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases III: Manganese, neurological diseases, and associated pathologies

Manganese (Mn) is an often overlooked but important nutrient, required in small amounts for multiple essential functions in the body. A recent study on cows fed genetically modified Roundup[®] -Ready feed revealed a severe depletion of serum Mn. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Perry Staltic]

From the study above

We further reason that, under conditions of adequate Mn in the diet, glyphosate, through its disruption of bile acid homeostasis, ironically promotes toxic accumulation of Mn in the brainstem, leading to conditions such as PD and prion diseases.

 

[Perry Staltic]

We further reason that, under conditions of adequate Mn in the diet, glyphosate, through its disruption of bile acid homeostasis, ironically promotes toxic accumulation of Mn in the brainstem, leading to conditions such as PD and prion diseases.

If this is true, then perhaps supplemental glycine would help to eliminate glyphosate from the body

 

[Perry Staltic]

If this is true, then perhaps supplemental glycine would help to eliminate glyphosate from the body

Avoiding gelatin might be good too

Most disturbing is the presence of glyphosate in many popular vaccines including the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, which we have verified here for the first time. Contamination may come through bovine protein, bovine calf serum, bovine casein, egg protein and/or gelatin. Gelatin sourced from the skin and bones of pigs and cattle given glyphosate-contaminated feed contains the herbicide.

https://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/2017/SamselSeneff_Glyphosate_VI_final.pdf

 

[Peater]

This thread is fascinating as the idea of mRNA vaccines causing prions has concerned me.

 

[Rasaari]

Considering the 2011 study on mice getting infected with scrapie from aerosols, you'd assume more of the lab people would be getting infected and the butchers too.

 

[Perry Staltic]

This thread is fascinating as the idea of mRNA vaccines causing prions has concerned me.

Injected mRNA vaccines may cause misfolded proteins, but the idea of infectious prions via shedding is not going anywhere IMO. I think in the end it will look like panic porn.

 

[Rasaari]

Injected mRNA vaccines may cause misfolded proteins, but the idea of infectious prions via shedding is not going anywhere IMO. I think in the end it will look like panic porn.

Yes getting the prions to aerosolize and spread would be quite impossible.

 

[Eberhardt]

Arent we all missing something.. a lead injection might kill you but led is not infectious. You can transplant cancer but it is not really a contagious disease

 

[tygreezytlb]

Arent we all missing something.. a lead injection might kill you but led is not infectious. You can transplant cancer but it is not really a contagious disease

So when people eat prions it's not infecting them. Not so sure about this

 

[Perry Staltic]

Arent we all missing something.. a lead injection might kill you but led is not infectious. You can transplant cancer but it is not really a contagious disease

Prions are simply malformed proteins. There is no credible evidence (that I am aware of) they are infectious or can cause disease (they are the disease), whereas with the two you mentioned, there is evidence.

 

[tygreezytlb]

Interesting ?

 

[Eberhardt]

Prions are simply malformed proteins. There is no credible evidence (that I am aware of) they are infectious or can cause disease (they are the disease), whereas with the two you mentioned, there is evidence.

I am agreeing to the basic premise. I dont see why a misfolded protein could not cause harm even if it is not infectious? But I am agreeeing that there is little if no conclusive evidence. My point was more geared towards saying that even if it caused her disease it is not a proof of it being infectious. My examples was ment to indicate damage by non-infectious substances, thus illustrating that if she got sick from it, that does not proof prions to be infectious. It was not ment to proof that she got sick from it even of I am not so sure that I would happily eat prions

 

[tygreezytlb]

I am agreeing to the basic premise. I dont see why a misfolded protein could not cause harm even if it is not infectious? But I am agreeeing that there is little if no conclusive evidence. My point was more geared towards saying that even if it caused her disease it is not a proof of it being infectious. My examples was ment to indicate damage by non-infectious substances, thus illustrating that if she got sick from it, that does not proof prions to be infectious. It was not ment to proof that she got sick from it even of I am not so sure that I would happily eat prions

Dancing round the issue really.

The conclusion that is most logical is that we possibly deal with exposure to prions or somewhat fight then misfolding until a cellular breakdown happens and causes the misfolding from the initial exposure.

It's quite evident though that the exposure does play a part suppose slightly similar to Huntington's and having that gene it becomes triggered at some point.

 

[Perry Staltic]

Interesting ?

Maybe, but more likely prions have nothing to do with contamination from cows with mad cow disease. However, deer that browse manganese-rich mineral licks put out by hunters to grow their antlers large and in locales with manganese-rich and/or copper-poor soils do come down with wasting disease.

 

[Peater]

Maybe, but more likely prions have nothing to do with contamination from cows with mad cow disease. However, deer that browse manganese-rich mineral licks put out by hunters to grow their antlers large and in locales with manganese-rich and/or copper-poor soils do come down with wasting disease.

Well that is interesting

Mad Cows and Manganese

Mark Purdey’s hypothesis is the only one which explains the spread of BSE By George Monbiot. Published in the Guardian 23rd November 2000 The most interesting aspect of France’s BSE scandal is that it makes no sense at all. Britain stopped exporting contaminated cattle feed to Europe in 1991...

www.monbiot.com