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Low-fat Diets Reduce Estrogen Levels - Shouldn't This Be The Best Reason To Eat Low Fat?

Discussion in 'Fats' started by MyUsernameHere, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. MyUsernameHere

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    I'm not sure if Peatarians are aware of these studies, I would like to think so, given how everyone is trying to reduce their estrogen, but if not, I thought I'd post these:

    Effects of a high-complex-carbohydrate, low-fat, low-cholesterol diet on levels of serum lipids and estradiol. - PubMed - NCBI

    The effect of a low fat diet on estrogen metabolism. - PubMed - NCBI

    Meta-analysis: Dietary Fat Intake, Serum Estrogen Levels, and the Risk of Breast Cancer | JNCI: Journal of the National Cancer Institute | Oxford Academic

    Fat Intake Is Associated with Serum Estrogen and Androgen Concentrations in Postmenopausal Japanese Women

    I don't see anyone bringing this up which is rather surprising given how many people are talking about low fat and estrogen separately.

    However, for us men, as we know, a certain amount of fat is required for testosterone and steroid production.
    I believe this was quoted as being as low as 15-20 g per day. It would seem then, that in order to maximize the testosterone:estrogen ratio, one should eat only enough fat to produce maximal amounts of testosterone, but no more than that, so that the estrogen levels are kept as low as possible.

    Seems that 20% of energy from fat would be a good starting point and then one could take it lower bit by bit while measuring serum levels of hormones to optimize it further.
     
  2. Hugh Johnson

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    PUFA is estrogenic, so the issue with studies like this is that they might just be measuring PUFA intake. I would rather eat 50% of calories from hydrogenated coconut oil and milk fat than eat 20% corn oil.
     
  3. Wagner83

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    www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022473184902541
    I'm not sure the drop in T is significant, they also claim the reduction in estradiol is non-significant.
     
  4. DavePalumbo

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    Lowers E, and T, and DHT, and so on and so forth. No thank you!
     
  5. Wagner83

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    Did you check how much these were lowered actually? It doesn't look that significant to me but I'm no expert.
     
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    Difference between unsaturated, polyunsaturated, and saturated fats on estrogen levels is very significant indeedy. I consider too low estrogen to be an issue likewise....
     
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    Do you know how much fat is needed in the diet to not have this effect? I have between 20-30 grams of saturated fat daily.
     
  8. cyclops

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    I think the only reason to go very low fat is if you have body fat to lose or are getting fat. Otherwise eat as much good fat as makes you feel good. Seems reasonable?
     
  9. Ideonaut

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    for men? how so?
     
  10. sladerunner69

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    Many on the forum have reported symptoms like low libido, fatigue, joint pain, from anti-estrogen supplements
     
  11. Ideonaut

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    interstin-thnx!
     
  12. sladerunner69

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    Have you encounterred this by chance? I still have back aches and kneww joint aches whenever I take even a single aspirin. I've been cutting back on coffee, aspirin, fat soluble vitamins, androsterone, just everything.
     
  13. Wagner83

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    Could the aspirin be irritating?
     
  14. sladerunner69

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    Yeah I think so. Though not at first, I still take an aspirin to fall asleep but I'm not taking 2 or 3 per day any more because of the other reasons.
     
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