In this thread I'd like to explore the connections amongst
"Lord" Charles Monckton,
Andrew Murray (of The Herb Doctors, which often features Dr. Raymond Peat as a guest),
and Dr. Peat himself.
One place to begin examining such connections is The Herb Doctors of last January--
see link after the quotes from Andrew, below.
I recommend giving a listen to the entire show.
But a good sense of the points under discussion can be heard
if one starts at about the 28 minutes mark and listens from there.
Because the show deals with climate change or global warming,
it will be natural that political implications or political ideology becomes part of the discussion.
After all, Peat is always on the lookout,
sniffing about for submerged ideology
surrepticiously driving the putative science.
So, to start us out,
I will provide quotes on the subject of global warming
from "Lord" Monckton, Murray, and Peat.
Andrew Murray, one of The Herb Doctors
(from The Herb Doctors January show linked to below at approximately. 28:00)
"Many people [believe] that we are such and evil species, using such an evil amount of carbon dioxide, that we need to be controlled. And I know that this person, Lord Charles Monckton, who's an English Lord--he's actually taken it upon himself as a fairly lifetime commitment to exposing the lies of global warming....
KMUD: 1-15-16 Water Quality, Atmospheric CO2, And Climate Change
Dr. Raymond Peat
(from the same Herb Doctors show linked to under Andrew Murray above, at approximately 30:00)
"I think the current trend of the [global] warming, the last 100 years or so, is being driven directly by the sun's normal cycle...showing evidence that the solar [constants?] have been increasing in recent decades, enough to fully account for the planetary warming...."
Lord Charles Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
"This week, I'll show how the UN undervalued the sun's effects on historical and contemporary climate, slashed the natural greenhouse effect, overstated the past century's temperature increase, repealed a fundamental law of physics and tripled the man-made greenhouse effect...
Two centuries ago, the astronomer William Herschel was reading Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations when he noticed that quoted grain prices fell when the number of sunspots rose. Gales of laughter ensued, but he was right. At solar maxima, when the sun was at its hottest and sunspots showed, temperature was warmer, grain grew faster and prices fell. Such observations show that even small solar changes affect climate detectably. But recent solar changes have been big.
Sami Solanki, a solar physicist, says that in the past half-century the sun has been warmer, for longer, than at any time in at least the past 11,400 years, contributing a base forcing equivalent to a quarter of the past century's warming. That's before adding climate feedbacks."
Climate chaos? Don't believe it
"Lord" Charles Monckton,
Andrew Murray (of The Herb Doctors, which often features Dr. Raymond Peat as a guest),
and Dr. Peat himself.
One place to begin examining such connections is The Herb Doctors of last January--
see link after the quotes from Andrew, below.
I recommend giving a listen to the entire show.
But a good sense of the points under discussion can be heard
if one starts at about the 28 minutes mark and listens from there.
Because the show deals with climate change or global warming,
it will be natural that political implications or political ideology becomes part of the discussion.
After all, Peat is always on the lookout,
sniffing about for submerged ideology
surrepticiously driving the putative science.
So, to start us out,
I will provide quotes on the subject of global warming
from "Lord" Monckton, Murray, and Peat.
Andrew Murray, one of The Herb Doctors
(from The Herb Doctors January show linked to below at approximately. 28:00)
"Many people [believe] that we are such and evil species, using such an evil amount of carbon dioxide, that we need to be controlled. And I know that this person, Lord Charles Monckton, who's an English Lord--he's actually taken it upon himself as a fairly lifetime commitment to exposing the lies of global warming....
KMUD: 1-15-16 Water Quality, Atmospheric CO2, And Climate Change
Dr. Raymond Peat
(from the same Herb Doctors show linked to under Andrew Murray above, at approximately 30:00)
"I think the current trend of the [global] warming, the last 100 years or so, is being driven directly by the sun's normal cycle...showing evidence that the solar [constants?] have been increasing in recent decades, enough to fully account for the planetary warming...."
Lord Charles Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
"This week, I'll show how the UN undervalued the sun's effects on historical and contemporary climate, slashed the natural greenhouse effect, overstated the past century's temperature increase, repealed a fundamental law of physics and tripled the man-made greenhouse effect...
Two centuries ago, the astronomer William Herschel was reading Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations when he noticed that quoted grain prices fell when the number of sunspots rose. Gales of laughter ensued, but he was right. At solar maxima, when the sun was at its hottest and sunspots showed, temperature was warmer, grain grew faster and prices fell. Such observations show that even small solar changes affect climate detectably. But recent solar changes have been big.
Sami Solanki, a solar physicist, says that in the past half-century the sun has been warmer, for longer, than at any time in at least the past 11,400 years, contributing a base forcing equivalent to a quarter of the past century's warming. That's before adding climate feedbacks."
Climate chaos? Don't believe it
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