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Long Term K2 Users! Share Your Experiences!

Discussion in 'Vitamins' started by GorillaHead, May 24, 2019.

  1. GorillaHead

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    I would like to hear from all those using high dose k2 for a few months to years.

    What have your experiences been like?

    Any negative side effects!

    Lets start a megathread here


    I am interested in K2 for teeth health. Possibly widening my zygotes and if there are any hair benefits I would love that too.

    Although I’ve heard it causes serious shedding but who knows that could be a good thing in the beginning.
     
  2. baccheion

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    It seems to result in poor saliva flow (ie, dry mouth) in my case, unless I add extra iodine/iodide. Maybe it's due to lowered acetylcholine and histamine?

    I've been taking it at a higher amount (15 mg and then 15 mg 2x/day) for almost 2 years. I don't notice much. Maybe my zygomatic arches did thicken. I am in the camp that finds it harder to sleep after taking it, even if I take it in the evening.

    At lower doses, I notice my mouth is always clean and free of tartar/plaque.

    I started due to cavities. They are still present 2 years later.
     
  3. SOMO

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    Still have tooth sensitivity and clicking joints.
    Teeth did not become stronger or whiter after 2 years of use.

    I think it is 100% insoluble in water and I feel like I only absorb it when the meal is HIGH in fat (like 20g fat minimum).
     
  4. baccheion

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    In your case, what else did you take and how much did you take? It does require about 20g fat for good absorption, with 34.5g being best.

    Bone stack (all 2-3x/day with fatty meal):

    - 300 IU/kg vitamin A
    - 2g vitamin C
    - 100 IU/kg vitamin D3
    - 5-15 mg vitamin K2 MK-4
    - 200 mg (chelated/TRAACS) magnesium
    - 100-200 mg calcium
    - 12-24 mg monomethylsilanetriol (silicon)
    - CoQ10
    - Thorne 2/day (or other good multi)

    The higher amount of vitamin K2 overcomes absorption efficiency issues. Can skip calcium if amount from diet already sufficient. The stack can be taken for a few months.

    Vitamins A and D3 don't really have to be split (if they start affecting sleep, for example). The IU/kg translates essentially to 60,000 IU A and 20,000 IU D3 per day for someone weighing 70 kg. If scared, then the RDA upper limits (10,000 IU and 4,000 IU) may be sufficient.

    Add a drop of Lugol's (can be applied topically) if there are issues with salivary flow.
     
  5. meatbag

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    Ive been trying to eat as much calcium as possible as my tooth sensitivity Ive always had is pretty much gone. I notice my teeth are way cleaner after using methylene blue and redlight.
     
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    GorillaHead

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    Do u take MB and then do relight therapy right after right on your teeth?
     
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    I guess if you had an infection you could try the combination but I've only used separately. I just use it like a mouth wash

    Red light and oral health - Red Light Man
     
  8. ShotTrue

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    I've noticed 45mg mk4 can cause balding. Either not in balance with Vit D, A, magnesium etc or perhaps the hormonal effect is too extreme
     
  9. baccheion

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    Is it hair loss or MPB?
     
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    Crazy cause a few guys on the forum trying to say to use k2 for fibrosis since they believe it’s the Cause of hairloss
     
  11. baccheion

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    Iodine (protocol levels of iodine) tends to be good at countering fibrosis.
     
  12. ShotTrue

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    MPB. There's actually a thread somewhere else about high dose mk4 causing hairloss, for me it caused insane itchy scalp and clear hairline recession where there wasn't any a few days after stopping
    @GorillaHead it has to do with the dose and form. 1 mg mk4 or 1mk mk7 is different from 45 mg
     
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    GorillaHead

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    Yup!

    I just wanted k2 for a wider jaw really. That was as my main goal.

    I am on Finasteride so idk if I would have to worry about the sideffects of k2 if it causes hairloss or not

    Best drug I’ve ever taken no more scalp acne. Or back acne. No more hairloss. I had so much scalp acne it was insane.
     
  14. meatbag

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    which product were you using?
     
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    Any theories why? Low estrogen? Low calcium?

    Maybe additional calcium, magnesium, and vitamin D is required to maintain serum level. And maybe more progesterone enhancers (vitamin C? Iodine?) to compensate for absent estrogen.
     
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    Yeah, I would either say low estrogen or imbalance of other vitamins but low estrogen may be the most probable explanation. I've even heard something about it oxidizing bad fats or so
     
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    Why so much vitamin C and vitamin A? Vitamin C lowers ceruloplasmin (although vitamin A increases it), and vitamin A itself causes bone loss in that sort of dosage unless you are getting a ton of sunlight or vitamin d.
     
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    I got the hair loss effect/hairline receding effect from K2 but thought it was just worsening autoimmune symptoms. I did seem to get the dry eyes/mouth effect as well. I was just using 15mg MK4 2 to 3 times a week alongside around 8000Iu d3 a day
     
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    Did you try 15mg? I used the same relentless improvement product and 15mg taken 2 to 3 times a week was enough to note a significant hair shedding/receding effect. I thought it just made autoimmune symptoms worse but If you dont have any autoimmune stuff going on looks like this occurs for everyone? I wonder what the mechanism behind it is. I was actually taking it alongside 5000IU d3 as well.
     
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