Liver Function Test For Bloating And Acne?

[Nstocks]

Hi,

For the past 6 months or so with making more changes to my diet since peating 18 months ago, I still have bloating and mild jawline acne.

I'm interested to see if there is anything actually wrong with my liver, which as well all know controls amongst many other things, hormones which in turn could cause bloating and acne.

The private test I've found is here: http://www.medichecks.com/index.cfm?s=2 ... on%20Tests

It provides a breakdown of everything they test for and I was wondering if anyone has had similar tests, or if this test would be useful at all? It's a good chunk of money but if it means I can at least have an idea about one major organ, it could be very useful. (Although I'm in the UK with NHS, my Doctor is utterly useless and I'd rather use my savings to pay for it privately)

Thanks!

 

[tara]

I'm wouldn't have clue how to interpret such results. Before spending money, it might be worth asking yourself what you would do with the results. Not go to your current doctor, I gather? If they show there are problems with liver function, my guess is you'd be trying to figure out what factors are supportive of liver function and doing them. Those things may well be worth doing anyway.
Others are doubtless better informed about how to support the liver. What I think I know includes:
Liver needs: protein, glucose, minerals in usable forms and vitamins, water, CO2 and O2.
Liver is burdened by: endotoxin, estrogen, PUFA, other toxins (including some drugs), parasites, gallstones, cold?

 

[Such_Saturation]

I've had inflamed as well as healthy liver and I can tell you it changes nothing for the acne. It is all in the intestine, unless it is pristine (you shouldn't even feel the food after you swallow it) you will have a few pimples. Additionally I think the estrogen and endotoxin buildup start well before blood markers go out of range. That said, the enzymes and all that are quite cheap to scan so why not. Bilirubin, especially if they measure direct and indirect (costs them a pound more so a whopping two pounds) is actually quite good Peatish information about yourself I would say.

 

[Nstocks]

It's been a while since I've posted on here...

I started taking a high quality oil of oregano 4 drops twice per day. I've almost ran out of the tiny bottle which is why I'm writing my experience with it now.

Overall my bloating has subsided, though I still continue to under eat most days. (no foods interest me. At all). Whenever I eat, the foods still sits in my stomach for a long time, even milk which I've reduced consumption of, but I do feel better.

I've also found the my acne has reduced slightly too! Skin is still quite dry and irritated so I'm working on my razor blades (safety razor) and changing shaving creams. I've also been using black soap twice a week and have started using shea butter to try and reduce skin dryness which is starting to make a difference.

The downside is that the continuous use of oil of oregano or any essential oily taken internally can be quite traumatic to the digestive system and it's not something I want to do for months on end. I've looked at alternative to oil of oregano, where the "safest" option would be thyme tea, though I doubt its potency will be very beneficial.

So after almost a decade of acne, my believes that it is almost entirely related to the intestines is most likely true and this will be my area of attention. I'm on a short cycle of coconut water kefir (due to cost) and plan on making bone broth again which is super cheap.

 

[Echo]

Liver flushing got rid of my acne. I was cured within the 3rd/4th flush. There is an acne face chart you can find on google which is useful. On the cheeks is basically digestion issues, jawline is hormonal issues, i think forehead is a few including lung function or something. When I stopped dairy and gluten my jawline/nose stuff all went away. Im back on the dairy bandwagon now, trying out the easy digestible milk stuff. UNFORTUNATELY my skin doesnt erupt anymore so I have to see if its doing okay for me by checking to see if my scalp is inflamed after drinking it (it does with the really cheap full fat milk so far). Gelatin and ESPECIALLY MSM (1 teaspoon a day) has been amazing for my skin too.

EDIT:
Also I think that cheap milk has residue or some byproduct of the hormones and antibiotics they use on the cows? this could be the explanation for the hormonal acne

 

[jyb]

Supplemented retinol (a few drops daily) and pregnenolone are what have worked best for my acne. Only mixed results with food like liver/oysters.

 

[Such_Saturation]

Liver flushing got rid of my acne. I was cured within the 3rd/4th flush. There is an acne face chart you can find on google which is useful. On the cheeks is basically digestion issues, jawline is hormonal issues, i think forehead is a few including lung function or something. When I stopped dairy and gluten my jawline/nose stuff all went away. Im back on the dairy bandwagon now, trying out the easy digestible milk stuff. UNFORTUNATELY my skin doesnt erupt anymore so I have to see if its doing okay for me by checking to see if my scalp is inflamed after drinking it (it does with the really cheap full fat milk so far). Gelatin and ESPECIALLY MSM (1 teaspoon a day) has been amazing for my skin too.

EDIT:
Also I think that cheap milk has residue or some byproduct of the hormones and antibiotics they use on the cows? this could be the explanation for the hormonal acne

I have a feeling those flushes flush your intestine more than your liver.

 

[aquaman]

Hi,

For the past 6 months or so with making more changes to my diet since peating 18 months ago, I still have bloating and mild jawline acne.

I'm interested to see if there is anything actually wrong with my liver, which as well all know controls amongst many other things, hormones which in turn could cause bloating and acne.

The private test I've found is here: http://www.medichecks.com/index.cfm?s=2 ... on%20Tests

It provides a breakdown of everything they test for and I was wondering if anyone has had similar tests, or if this test would be useful at all? It's a good chunk of money but if it means I can at least have an idea about one major organ, it could be very useful. (Although I'm in the UK with NHS, my Doctor is utterly useless and I'd rather use my savings to pay for it privately)

Thanks!

Keep going to your doctor, eventually they have to give you the tests. If he doesn't, complain up the ladder.

Find symptoms if you have to that match yours that could point to liver issues. The NHS is a game, doctors never do anything without you getting emotional/worried about the issues.

EDIT - have you tried Cascara + Activated charcoal powder (taken at separate times of day)?

 

[Nstocks]

Hi,

For the past 6 months or so with making more changes to my diet since peating 18 months ago, I still have bloating and mild jawline acne.

I'm interested to see if there is anything actually wrong with my liver, which as well all know controls amongst many other things, hormones which in turn could cause bloating and acne.

The private test I've found is here: http://www.medichecks.com/index.cfm?s=2 ... on%20Tests

It provides a breakdown of everything they test for and I was wondering if anyone has had similar tests, or if this test would be useful at all? It's a good chunk of money but if it means I can at least have an idea about one major organ, it could be very useful. (Although I'm in the UK with NHS, my Doctor is utterly useless and I'd rather use my savings to pay for it privately)

Thanks!

Keep going to your doctor, eventually they have to give you the tests. If he doesn't, complain up the ladder.

Find symptoms if you have to that match yours that could point to liver issues. The NHS is a game, doctors never do anything without you getting emotional/worried about the issues.

EDIT - have you tried Cascara + Activated charcoal powder (taken at separate times of day)?

The NHS is a huge game and a complete joke. My father has problems with his foot for over 5 years. He eventually got an appointment with a specialist who told him that he never needed to see the Doctor in the first place. My Brother had a strange blood-clot like lump under his eyelid. The Doctor gave him a referral 12 weeks down the line even though he works with machinery. Last week my Brother pulled the thing out of his eye and has been better ever since.

Anyway, I have no interest in trying with the NHS. I'd rather continue saving so that eventually I can have a comprehensive set of tests. Probably not the best way - "too little too late" but I've had enough with the NHS.

I've tried cascara that has worked in the past, but now it just bloates me without a BM. I'm thinking about trying a different thyroid supplement since I'm still quite fatigued and with the summer ending, my feet are freezing up and back hurts even more. (I tried THIROYD for 2 months)

 

[jyb]

Anyway, I have no interest in trying with the NHS. I'd rather continue saving so that eventually I can have a comprehensive set of tests. Probably not the best way - "too little too late" but I've had enough with the NHS

I have occasionally wondered about tests, such as an in depth one for iron. The problem with tests in general if you have to pay their huge price is, what do you do with them? Let's say you do some kind of "liver test", let's assume you're not too unlucky and it's reliable, and you receive the readings. Maybe they'll just return fine or borderline. Maybe they'll be a bit off charts. What do you do then? Low thyroid function means a lot of things don't work optimally, so that was expected if you already know you're hypo (looking at temperature, heart rate, symptoms etc). So, try to increase thyroid function? That's pretty general. Maybe then you'd do the blood test regularly to see how it evolves, assuming you can keep paying for it.

 

[Echo]

Liver flushing got rid of my acne. I was cured within the 3rd/4th flush. There is an acne face chart you can find on google which is useful. On the cheeks is basically digestion issues, jawline is hormonal issues, i think forehead is a few including lung function or something. When I stopped dairy and gluten my jawline/nose stuff all went away. Im back on the dairy bandwagon now, trying out the easy digestible milk stuff. UNFORTUNATELY my skin doesnt erupt anymore so I have to see if its doing okay for me by checking to see if my scalp is inflamed after drinking it (it does with the really cheap full fat milk so far). Gelatin and ESPECIALLY MSM (1 teaspoon a day) has been amazing for my skin too.

EDIT:
Also I think that cheap milk has residue or some byproduct of the hormones and antibiotics they use on the cows? this could be the explanation for the hormonal acne

I have a feeling those flushes flush your intestine more than your liver.

I disagree completely having done many enemas, colonics and mag oxide several times both before and after the flushes. The bile released is very good for cleansing the intestines too so it does that as a secondary benefit.

 

[Such_Saturation]

Liver flushing got rid of my acne. I was cured within the 3rd/4th flush. There is an acne face chart you can find on google which is useful. On the cheeks is basically digestion issues, jawline is hormonal issues, i think forehead is a few including lung function or something. When I stopped dairy and gluten my jawline/nose stuff all went away. Im back on the dairy bandwagon now, trying out the easy digestible milk stuff. UNFORTUNATELY my skin doesnt erupt anymore so I have to see if its doing okay for me by checking to see if my scalp is inflamed after drinking it (it does with the really cheap full fat milk so far). Gelatin and ESPECIALLY MSM (1 teaspoon a day) has been amazing for my skin too.

EDIT:
Also I think that cheap milk has residue or some byproduct of the hormones and antibiotics they use on the cows? this could be the explanation for the hormonal acne

I have a feeling those flushes flush your intestine more than your liver.

I disagree completely having done many enemas, colonics and mag oxide several times both before and after the flushes. The bile released is very good for cleansing the intestines too so it does that as a secondary benefit.

I would like to try it sometime. Would butter work instead of oil?

 

[Suikerbuik]

I would like to try it sometime.

Do you know how Peat thinks about such intervention? Is there real prove for those "liver stones"? I'd be reluctant at this point.

 

[Such_Saturation]

I would like to try it sometime.

Do you know how Peat thinks about such intervention? Is there real prove for those "liver stones"? I'd be reluctant at this point.

I don't have anything in my gallbladder (checked many times) but beef liver always has many blocked ducts. Nature has ways around this I'm sure, but it's not optimal. I think that much fat gives a real kick. Of course when it comes out it's round and emulsified and looks like a "stone". Personally I've had elevated direct bilirubin for over two years with no symptoms whatsoever so of course I'm curious.

 

[Echo]

The goose liver I looked at yesterday had some little blockages in it. I also read somewhere that you can actually identify them in the liver (medically) but I didnt look any further into it. Parasites can also block the bile ducts.

Im not sure about butter but people make their own liver flush recipes and you can have a look around to see if you find something you wanna try. The epsom salts are the real bad bit you wanna try exchange. Cleansing your liver which ever way you go about doing it definitely improves your skin

 

[Mittir]

In my pre-peat days i tried this "Liver Flush" thing with Gallon of apple juice and
then half cup of olive oil. I did not see any major benefit. I was using Triphala
regularly and that kept intestine quite clean. I also remember reading on line
report that analysed those "Gallbladder Stones".

Then i tried the Ayurvedic version of intestine cleaning. I took 2 tbs of clarified
butter every morning in empty stomach for a week and then a large dose on the final
day, it was 6 tbs of butter. The Aftermath was way milder than Olive oil.
It fits RP's interpretation that PUFA in oil causes gut reaction through increased
prostaglandins production. If anyone choose to try "Liver Flush" they can
experiment with both olive oil and clarified butter to test this theory.
Flaxseed oil should give the most intense reaction as it has about 15 percent
omega 6, olive oil has 11 percent and butter 2 percent.

 

[tara]

In my pre-peat days i tried this "Liver Flush" thing with Gallon of apple juice and
then half cup of olive oil. I did not see any major benefit. I was using Triphala
regularly and that kept intestine quite clean. I also remember reading on line
report that analysed those "Gallbladder Stones".

Then i tried the Ayurvedic version of intestine cleaning. I took 2 tbs of clarified
butter every morning in empty stomach for a week and then a large dose on the final
day, it was 6 tbs of butter. The Aftermath was way milder than Olive oil.
It fits RP's interpretation that PUFA in oil causes gut reaction through increased
prostaglandins production. If anyone choose to try "Liver Flush" they can
experiment with both olive oil and clarified butter to test this theory.
Flaxseed oil should give the most intense reaction as it has about 15 percent
omega 6, olive oil has 11 percent and butter 2 percent.

Did you notice any benefit from the Ayurvedic version?

 

[Mittir]

I do not remember much, i only did that once. I got better results with
Triphala . Morning clarified butter in empty stomach is often used for constipation.
I did have not those problems. But, general result from triphala and butter cleansing
both were improved skin. I think my skin is much better with RP diet.

 

[Filip1993]

Supplemented retinol (a few drops daily) and pregnenolone are what have worked best for my acne. Only mixed results with food like liver/oysters.

Which retinol supplement do you have success with?

 

[Such_Saturation]

There seems to be a special kind of pimple which is less affected by vitamin A. Has anyone experimented with vitamin D?