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Lisuride - Liquid Lisuride (maleate) For Lab/R&D

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. bdawg

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    Nope no nausea just headache
     
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    @haidut do rats have to shake it before each use? sometimes my rat forgets to shake it and then gets very paranoid after application.... worrying that maybe all the lisuride floated toward the top of the solution and that he significantly overdosed the lisuride. But no real evidence besides his own paranoid delusions :)
     
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    I don't think lisuride precipitates since (compared to other products we have) it is such a small amount of chemical dissolved in a decent amount of liquid. You can still shake but I doubt it will change the effects.
     
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    @haidut Thanks for the response!
     
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    Does this cause the stuffy nose feeling that bromo does?
     
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    In my experience, no.
     
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    fibrinogen and total protein also?
     
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    Total protein is usually just the sum of albumin and globulin. At least on the tests I have seen. Fibrinogen is good and there are quite a few other proteins produced by the liver that can be tested as well, but usually if there is a liver issue either albumin or globulin will be dysregulated. So, no need to test all of those more obscure proteins.
     
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    ok interesting. and where does billirubin come into play? is it as important a test?
     
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    I have high albumin and a high albumin to globulin ratio. This indicates liver issues?
     
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    So I've been on bromo in an attempt to lower prolactin, and get really annoyed with the mouth breathing/congestion it causes. I'm using 2.5 mg bromo, and this afternoon after about 6 hours of mouth breathing, I couldn't take it any longer, so I took 2 drops of Lisuride topically.

    Nose totally cleared in 10 minutes!

    WOW. So it definitely doesn't cause the congestion Bromo does; quite the opposite.

    It also gave me almost instant brain energy and a little more physical energy too.
     
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    Excellent, thanks for the great feedback! How much lisuride was used?
     
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    2 drops rubbed between forearms
     
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    Also for people wondering about how long it lasts; my Lisuride is at least 9 months old and has been left out at room temp, and clearly still works.
     
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    Wow, this is great!
     
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    At 1-2 drops, how long should one wait to check labs for new results?
     
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    @haidut i recall you covering this briefly, it may have been regarding metergoline, but do you have anything specific regarding the metabolism of lisuride over time.

    My concern is with work and the certainty that will drug and background test. I fear a false positive but im not sure how I could comfortably explain spilling lisuride while working with a pet rat.

    I dont plan on large doses or frequent for that matter but do you have any specifics on it or its metabolites past what wiki would have?
     
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    I get the heated face with antihistamines (hydroxyzine or trazodone.) It's not very pleasant, but that's probably due to some anxiety over the possibility of fever or serotonin syndrome.
     
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    The human studies using 50mcg lisuride daily typically did prolactin tests after 3-4 weeks of use.
     
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    haidut

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    None of these are known to trigger positive drug tests. Even though all ergot derivatives are in theory related to LSD, the developers of these chemicals know about that link and made them in a way that does not have ANY of the drug-abuse potential and hallucinogenic effects LSD has. Otherwise, people taking bromocriptie or cabergoline would be failing drug abuse tests left and right.
     
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