Life Expectancy Is Lower In Parts Of U.S. Than Iraq

[Mito]

Life expectancy is lower in some parts of the U.S. than in Iraq, the Philippines and North Korea

 

[Such_Saturation]

Capitalism best system possible ever

 

[Tarmander]

North Dakota is having some confusion

 

[sladerunner69]

Capitalism best system possible ever

>implying we live in a truly capatalist society

If the market was truly free and the government wasnt telling people how to eat or what medications to take, and the medical industry had full transparency on research, everyone would be a lot better off.

Also if you do have a terminal disease your best chances of survival by far are in the U.S., by a wide margin.

 

[Queequeg]

This is pure propaganda published just in time to defeat the repeal of Obama-care. Of course there are specific sections of the US that have a lower life expectancy than the average of other countries. Its called a bell curve. I am sure there are towns in the US that have a lower average income than that in Mexico and many other statistical surprises that don't really mean that much. Instead of pushing for equality of opportunity, these socialists want equality of outcomes regardless of individual effort. The difference in outcomes is what makes people strive to better themselves. Why work hard if you'll just get the same as everyone else.

 

[Such_Saturation]

>implying we live in a truly capatalist society

If the market was truly free and the government wasnt telling people how to eat or what medications to take, and the medical industry had full transparency on research, everyone would be a lot better off.

Also if you do have a terminal disease your best chances of survival by far are in the U.S., by a wide margin.

Let me guess

 

[Drareg]

Using correlation for corruption/power/profit.
North Korea are always honest with information on the general populace.

Perhaps it's a special starchy potato,can we correlate starch consumption with said charts........

In Iraq,India and Philippines people just want to survive with some level of peace,their "meaning". Drugs and alcohol are not readily available as with the USA,if we gave these cultures access to drugs/alcohol/fast food etc they would probably medicate heavily from the stress of their cultures and die even younger.
In America the stress of unmet capitalist expectations is what drives many underlying health issues imo, this stress is passed on from parents,call it capitalism or something else,doesn't matter much,generally the images bombarded to young kids are make money,acquire power and lots of sex,this is the meaning of life in many cases.
Not that simple but......

 

[sladerunner69]

Let me guess
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I wouldn't say cronyist either. It's a socialized capatalism. Total income taxes here are about 30%, or about 45% if you've worked your butt off to become wealthy. I am a fan of business, it's government expansion and legislation that has always been a problem. And the US is still way better than any other country there has ever been, even with the faults.

 

[Such_Saturation]

I wouldn't say cronyist either. It's a socialized capatalism. Total income taxes here are about 30%, or about 45% if you've worked your butt off to become wealthy. I am a fan of business, it's government expansion and legislation that has always been a problem. And the US is still way better than any other country there has ever been, even with the faults.

So the low life expectancy is due to the socialized component of American capitalism? But does that mean Iraq is more true capitalist than those counties in USA if it has higher life expectancy?

 

[tankasnowgod]

So the low life expectancy is due to the socialized component of American capitalism? But does that mean Iraq is more true capitalist than those counties in USA if it has higher life expectancy?

Well, it's only 4 US counties that have a lower life expectancy than Iraq. The total population of those four counties is about 45,000. The population of Iraq is about 38 million. And if you want to get suuuuuuuper technical, three of those counties (Todd, Soiux, and Oglala Lakota) are entirely on Indian Reservations, which in some ways, are considered sovereign nations. The one county that remains, Union County in Florida, has a population of about 15,500 people. Yet it is also home to Union Correctional Facility, which houses just over 2100 inmates, approximately 13.5% of the county's population.

 

[sladerunner69]

So the low life expectancy is due to the socialized component of American capitalism? But does that mean Iraq is more true capitalist than those counties in USA if it has higher life expectancy?

No obviously Iraq is less capatalistic than America. I beginning to doubt if you understand the basic principles of economics

But let's be clear: the life expectancy in the US is higher in the vast majority of counties, so if life expectancy is your metric of whether or not capatalism works, then the US as a whole wins.

Life expectancy is not a good metric for that though, because capatalism and freedom increases the availability of goods including unhealthy goods and obviously some people are going to abuse that and get fat, do drugs, be lazy, etc simply because of the increased supply.

My point about the social component of our capatalism is that it actually made the food supply worse, and the medical industry worse. Big government protects these terrible drug companies and hides their research. Without the government these drug companies would have been burnt down a long time ago. And with full transparency, the consumer would not be paying for drugs the industry pushes onto the market knowing they lack efficacy and trials.

The switch from coconut oil to corn oil was done by big government, as was the war on saturated fats, fluoride in the water, etc etc etc

Whether Dr. Peat sees it or not, all of today's major problems with health and nutrition can be traced back to Big Brother and policies in the name of "social welfare". If americans were still eating milkshakes, burgers, french fries fried in animal fat, like in the 30s and 40s, before your socialist comrades told us not to, we would not have the obesity, cancer, and heart disease epidemics. Thanks brah

 

[Such_Saturation]

Well, it's only 4 US counties that have a lower life expectancy than Iraq. The total population of those four counties is about 45,000. The population of Iraq is about 38 million. And if you want to get suuuuuuuper technical, three of those counties (Todd, Soiux, and Oglala Lakota) are entirely on Indian Reservations, which in some ways, are considered sovereign nations. The one county that remains, Union County in Florida, has a population of about 15,500 people. Yet it is also home to Union Correctional Facility, which houses just over 2100 inmates, approximately 13.5% of the county's population.

If you want to get extra technical, one country invaded the other

I beginning to doubt if you understand the basic principles of economics

Got told the same about biology lol

 

[sladerunner69]

If you want to get extra technical, one country invaded the other



Got told the same about biology lol

lol. to be honest despite all I just wrote, I think big business is at fault as much as big government and I don't know how to fix it.

 

[Such_Saturation]

lol. to be honest despite all I just wrote, I think big business is at fault as much as big government and I don't know how to fix it.

I think distributed databases like blockchains could lead to (how to get hate from both communists and capitalists) "soft revolutions" into a moneyless society. But reliance on the internet is still a weak point unless the internet becomes distributed in the first place. Some say you could use bitcoin over DVB-T

 

[Mito]

Interesting that the top 3 highest life expectancy counties are at relatively high elevations.

 

[Regina]

Interesting that the top 3 highest life expectancy counties are at relatively high elevations.

 

[Ahanu]

Well, it's only 4 US counties that have a lower life expectancy than Iraq. The total population of those four counties is about 45,000. The population of Iraq is about 38 million. And if you want to get suuuuuuuper technical, three of those counties (Todd, Soiux, and Oglala Lakota) are entirely on Indian Reservations, which in some ways, are considered sovereign nations. The one county that remains, Union County in Florida, has a population of about 15,500 people. Yet it is also home to Union Correctional Facility, which houses just over 2100 inmates, approximately 13.5% of the county's population.

USA is in generell not good but also not bad when iz comes to life expectancy. It scores a solid 31.
List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia

 

[zztr]

You have to break down the stats by race/ethnicity. Same dynamic comes into play over and over and over again in international comparisons involving the USA. When you break out ethnic groups the picture can be reframed like this: people of every ethnicity do better in the USA than where they're from. Swedes and Japanese and West Africans are all healthier and better educated than in their homelands.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Interesting that the top 3 highest life expectancy counties are at relatively high elevations.

No iron fortification, either. On top of that, Japan being number one overall is extremely impressive, especially with a large population of 127 million people, and with such a small land mass, being very densely populated.

 

[Sucrates]

The reservations are closer to 'Real Socialism' than Iraq.