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LGS1 - Orange & Red Light Therapy Handheld Device - 610nm - 630nm - 670nm

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  1. Arnold Grape

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    Since my last (dubious) post concerning the LSG1, I felt the need to update. Since that time I have spent 10-15 minutes shining it on disparate portions of my face and body for different periods of time, about three times daily. (For this I have just used a holistic approach, and 'what feels right'.) As previously reported, there is some type of 'warming effect' that is had from the light after sustained periods but by no means is it hot or burning. I've also spent time gazing directly into the light and then closing my eyes, when that seems too much. (As reported by another member, this seems highly beneficial.) There seems to be a transition into getting used to longer durations of experiencing the light and I believe that I am building up. Without realizing it entirely, as a component of overall health in conjunction with various other things in place -- there is generally a feeling of well being and clarity that I can report after usage. I'm not sure that I can always directly relate it to sustained body temperature increase, but there is definitely an energy value and I can feel when I miss my afternoon session of light therapy at home -- if I am at work or wherever. It's a nice thing to have during these months where I reside, when I look outside into bleak, cloudy skies. If anyone has further suggestions about how to use the light, I welcome those things.
     
  2. lollipop

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    I also want to report about my usage.

    Over the last few weeks I varied between every day and every other day. I use 30 sec to 1 min on each part:

    *Thyroid/Neck
    *Hands
    *Forearms
    *Belly
    *Feet
    *Legs
    *Face/forehead

    I have noticed better temps even as outside temperature is beginning to drop. Definitely better overall sense of well-being and stress reduction.

    I simply LOVE this inexpensive way to improve my health. It is a powerful light and I feel I found the sweet spot for me: regular use, multiple body parts, small time exposure. I am now realizing that using this light would be an amazing first step into experiencing a Peat inspired lifestyle and then gradually shifting diet.
     
  3. raypeatclips

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    How far away from your body is the light during these times?
     
  4. lollipop

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    Thank you for asking. I forgot to mention that: 4 to 6 inches
     
  5. Dizzy45

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    At 4" ? Or what distance are you holding it from while shining on those locations? That variable obviously affects dosage. I have the LGS1 and apply in same manner as you probably are doing, but higher dosages on my Thyoid (~30 J/ cm^2)
     
  6. Arnold Grape

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    How do you feel if you go above the indicated short time exposure, just so as to mark this as a reference for people possibly using the light too long? I think that is an important distinction. For me personally, I can hold the light over my face and neck for prolonged periods, with only a general sense of brain fog or discomfort setting in at a longer duration. I was curious about how you gauge holding the light too long?
     
  7. lollipop

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    Yeah hard to be extremely accurate as I hold it in my hand. However I make the attempt when beginning and try to hold it steady. I started out at arms length away - so maybe 2 ft? Sorry to not have accuracy. Then I decided after reading an @Sucrates post somewhere that I would bring a bit closer and I felt it improved. Does that explain or help you at all?
     
  8. lollipop

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    Great question. It happened only once and mainly because I started daydreaming - lol. However, I felt slightly drained and got up to drink a 6 oz glass of milk with my vanilla infused maple syrup. I felt better almost instantly. Based on this I would say the word “drained” explains it accurately, sort of began using my energy instead of giving me energy.

    My main caution @Arnold Grape is that I want to use this long term and am concerned with overexposure long term damaging the mitochondria. I must be transparent here. I have not retained all that I have read about red light so this could be a tribal, unsupported fear.
     
  9. Arnold Grape

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    ^^TY -- As an aside, I typically do tend to perform red light therapy after I have eaten or had something sugary. I think this is an important distinction. Additionally (not related), I have found that, as someone else reported, shining the light directly into the eyes while that feels comfortable, does in fact increase mental clarity for long periods afterward.
     
  10. lollipop

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    Interesting! I might try it for a few weeks and see. This might be where I go back to further distance like a foot. How close are you using it @Arnold Grape?

    As another side Sucrates mentioned that he was shining in his ears and getting good results. I think from headaches? Am I wrong here @Sucrates?
     
  11. Sucrates

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    @lisaferraro Tinnitus. It seems to help a bit. The tinnitus comes back and decreases when I use IR. It's a 150mw 808nm laser shone from outside the ear for about 30s. Not directions but that's what I have been doing.
    I haven't noticed any effect on headaches from LEDs. The heat from heatlamps can cause problems though.

    I've been using the redlightman 670 device on my thyroid thinking it would reduce my graves antibodies. I now think the dose might have been high and inhibitory on hormone production primarily (though the ab tests I have show them slowly coming down too). I really would need more data to make a strong case and I've been on anti-thyroid meds and LDN so there's no way to read those things separately.
     
  12. lollipop

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    Thank you for clarifying @Sucrates :):
     
  13. Simba1992

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    I just received my new more efficient red light device LGS10. I wonder is it broken since there is no visible light?
     
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    Hi Simba1992, the light you have is infrared. Infrared light is barely visible to the human eye. You can see a very slight red tint, but that is about it. Only about 5% of the light is visible, so the other 95% is not. You can however take your phone that has a camera, if you have one, and look at the light through the camera. Then you should be able to see it fairly well that way.

    How to See Infared Light

    And just because you can barely see the light, does not mean it is less powerful. Quite the contrary. It has more penetrating power then the visible red light. Less is more!

    Les us know how it goes!
     
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    Thanks! I do feel the warmth and the faint red light is there. So no problem.
     
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    Great! Please keep us updated! :)
     
  17. Dizzy45

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    I was curious about having a 100% IR light and this happening. I'm glad to hear of the lifehack with using a phone to confirm its shining!
     
  18. Daniel11

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    I have been shining the light through my open eyes for over a year with excellent results, using the same light as LGS1, i hold 3”- 5” from nose centered over the eyes, for 4-8 minuets, 5-7 days a week in the mornings.

    My mother has been doing the same, also she holds light on her thyroid, touching the skin for 5-8 min, for first few months she did almost every day, now she does 2-3 times a week. She does her eyes 4-5 times a week, she also likes putting light on abdomen areas, touching the skin or 2-3” away for 4-5 min each location. She is in her 80s and has had a amazing beneficial increase in her heath, energy and emotional wellbeing.

    Sometimes there can be a relaxation response right after using the light, i always do light sessions siting or lying down comfortably on a sofa or bed, and just relax after the light for a few minuets of so, kind of like doing Savasana at the end of a yoga practice.

    If you do light therapy consistently your nutritional needs will change, i started really needing lots of orange juice or lemonade every day and more protein.
     
  19. Simba1992

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    Have any of you used the 100% IR? Is the treatment time shorter with this divice? I would very much like to hear how you have experienced it. I bought this light because of the deeper penetration and because it was recommended for treatment of RA. Thankful for any info.
     
  20. Daniel11

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    I feel orange and red visible light is a better choice for light therapy then infrared for a few reasons most important is i find it works better.

    I think the light this thread is about the LGS1 is a much better choice then infrared lights.

    The infrared light may penetrated deeper layers of tissue but its scattered light, the photons have less energy, the shorter the wavelengths more energy each photon has, red light photons have more energy then infrared light photons, and even shorter wavelengths like orange have more energy per photon then red, our cells really like orange and red wavelengths.

    Water molecules absorb the infrared spectrum more readily then red and orange wavelengths, so the light gets dispersed and diluted more when going through the water molecules in our skin and other tissue and does not reach the mitochondria of our cells as efficiently as orange and red 600 nm - 700 nm wavelengths.

    I have personally experiment long times with both visible orang/red light and infrared light. The infrared light is stimulating and does have a effect , but i found orange /red light much more satisfying and effective, and very important to me is i find my mind and emotions much more uplifted with the orange/red wavelengths, then the infrared wavelengths.
     
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