Such_Saturation
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same lolJust to give some context, this advice is from an unemployed crazy person.
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same lolJust to give some context, this advice is from an unemployed crazy person.
Such, are you bipolar or you just want to see if it can have benefits on "normal" (sorry to use that word) people? Please keep us posted!Thanks, I'll give this a try when I can.
Why being unemployed is a detrimental factor? As long as you can make a living...Just to give some context, this advice is from an unemployed crazy person.
@Prosper that sounds like a textbook case of a type ii rapid cycling bipolar person. Do you ever get mixed episodes?
Dunno I've never been to a shrinkSuch, are you bipolar or you just want to see if it can have benefits on "normal" (sorry to use that word) people? Please keep us posted!
I can sleep, I just don't want to because the final hours before bed are the only time I'm able to appreciate being alive.Yea... this is pretty common for people with overburdened livers. For a while I couldn't sleep at night even if I wanted to.
@Prosper that sounds like a textbook case of a type ii rapid cycling bipolar person. Do you ever get mixed episodes?
No for thyroid, not really interested in dabbling with it either. Haven't been monitoring temperature nor pulse but I acknowledge that it would be usefuldo you take a thyroid supplement? do you take your temps when you wake up?
Well that is interesting. There's some depression and bi-polar in my extended family. However, I have never experienced definite manic periods, only depression. Sometimes I may feel overly confident and almost fearful about my intellectual potential and ability to learn anything I want, but these hypo-delusional bouts tend to happen only after ingesting caffeine. They never last long. Is this not normal? How does bipolarity manifest in you? I have been under the impression that the manic-depressive cycles last weeks instead of days or hours.
part WerwolfI can sleep, I just don't want to because the final hours before bed are the only time I'm able to appreciate being alive.
I did some reading for these terms and I'm not completely convinced. I'm not mentally healthy, but the descriptions I read seem more extreme than what I am going through. My typical daily cycle is anhedonic depression for the first half of the day, mild depersonalization/anxiety in the evening and total peace of mind at midnight. Sometimes the forementioned peace of mind takes on a negative twist where it would not phase me at all if I just disappeared from existence. Apart from that, the daily cycle is is very predictable, whereas bipolar fluctuation seems to be more erratic and vulnerable to triggers. I feel adequately functional at all times, just not happy or productive unless it's night.
@mujuro I see. I was actually evaluated by a psychiatrist just last week by the request of the psychologist from local unemployment office, who was of the opinion that my mental issues require attention. He made me fill out all kind of questionnaires, bipolar included, but didn't seem to be concerned about me checking a couple of boxes on it.
I commented earlier that I don't identify much with the commonly listed symptoms of bipolar. The daily cycles I get are predictable. Well, I very rarely experience anger like you. I hardly experience any emotions in any state of mind. My depression has never had the classic low serotonin symptoms of crying, low self worth, changes in appetite and sleep etc. Only extreme disinterest towards everything, undecisiveness, blank mind etc which from my understanding point towards low dopamine.
I can sleep, I just don't want to because the final hours before bed are the only time I'm able to appreciate being alive.
20-30mg elemental lithium divided into 2-3 doses daily. I think mujuro is spot on above, I am very likely on the bipolar spectrum too and had similar circadian rhythm as OP since early puberty at least.
I think there are people who are natural night owls. Having worked night shift off and on for a couple decades now I can tell that it comes more easily/naturally for some people compared to others. Perhaps it might be an interesting experiment and see how things go for you by taking advantage of your nightly creativity regardless of if it fits into what is considered a normal schedule. I'm also pretty sure that all through out history we have had people who were night owls and they served an important part in society by getting needed things done and protecting people and animals while most were sleeping. Who knows but we may not have even survived without a few night owls in our midst!What could cause this kind of daily rhythm? I've been like this for as long as I remember. I feel like my mind and body never fully wake up until the last few hours before going to bed. Is there such thing as a natural night owl, or does predominantly night time oriented productivity always point towards a hormonal dysfunction, as some here have suggested? I have very creative and intuitive mind, but only when the sun has gone down. It would be excellent to be able to tap into this state of mind straight out of the bed.
@tara It doesn't seem to matter much when I go to sleep and wake up. Only if I wake up early in the morning I feel worse. When I was in school I went to bed at 9-11 pm and woke up around 7-9 am. I was angry and groggy every morning. Stared into distance in passive thought during morning classes. Back then I didn't drink coffee nor stare at screens after 8 pm. Now that I'm unemployed I have had periods where I got up at 6 pm and went to sleep early in the morning. I usually felt like I could focus on my hobbies after midnight. Even then, the first hours of being awake were unproductive..
Well yes, indeed, I have been diagnosed with moderate depression thrice in the last few years. This kind of timeline has given plenty of room to experiment with potential solutions. Exercise, diet, art, socalizing, supplements, drugs do help in varying degrees, but are nowhere near what could be called a cure.sound like depression...staying up late at night and sleep deprivation can act like an antidepressant by boosting dopamine and cortisol
now you have to figure out what is the cause of your depression: environmental, mental, physical, or emotional.
you might just be able to fix it by going outside for an hour and getting some UV light to boost vitamin D and reset your circadian rhythm and boost your dopamine levels. but if your issues are lack of employment or school stress etc then you will have to deal with those things.
your low energy and depressive state acts like a cocoon to keep you away from the stress you are avoiding. could also be something called a calcium shell where your body becomes numb and lame because of prolong stress...what helps that is b6 and vitamin c in the short term.
Well yes, indeed, I have been diagnosed with moderate depression thrice in the last few years. This kind of timeline has given plenty of room to experiment with potential solutions. Exercise, diet, art, socalizing, supplements, drugs do help in varying degrees, but are nowhere near what could be called a cure.
My depression is mostly dysthymic and dissociative in its nature. I'm practically functional, only deeply passionless and unable to identify with my own life. There's nothing I desire out of life, and the more I live the firmer this sentiment grows.The dysthymia is so tightly weaved into my worldview and experience of the everyday reality that I don't expect to ever "get better". I've learned to accept that the detached and apathetic lens through which I experience life may possibly be a fundamental characteristic who I am and is here to stay.
do you think you are addicted to being yourself to the point that if there was a cure you would totally rebel from it because you are so used to feeling like you do that feeling postive would make you feel horrible or anxious.
i ask this because many times when i was younger i tried to break away from many mental traps only to run right back to them when ever i felt good because feeling good was foreign to me. I dont know if you have taken the Myers bRIGG TEST to found out your personality type but when i was self exploring that was avenue that helped a lot. One of the things that INFP types have is a lot of depression and one guy said when ever he felt that way he just found salvation by helping others and being of service to people. He found happines buy not focussing on himself so much and focussing on others.
maybe find away to be of service to one other person or even just an animal like a cat.