Lazy **** To A+ Student — Possible? If So, How?

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Hello everyone,

I am interested in your perspective on this one.

Do you think it is possible to become an A+ student if you are starting off as a lazy, not so genetically-gifted person to begin with?

If so, what would you focus on physiologically and psychologically to achieve this?

Drop your hypothesis / thoughts / recommendations down below. (Feel free, this is an open-discussion)

I think this will stimulate an interesting conversation.
 

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I think it is.

It may sound rudimentary- but I think this is an effective and important piece--

Hang out or become friends with the smartest student and become study partners- or start a study group together.

The discipline and structure offered, as well as the community this can bring- can really motivate and nurture good behaviors and in turn birth better outcomes.
 
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I think it is.

It may sound rudimentary- but I think this is an effective and important piece--

Hang out or become friends with the smartest student and become study partners- or start a study group together.

The discipline and structure offered, as well as the community this can bring- can really motivate and nurture good behaviors and in turn birth better outcomes.
Thanks Peatful. I think this is valuable advice.

Thinking back in time, I was much more productive and had a different state of mind, when I studied at the university's library, just because of the surrounding of other people studying. But a personal group of colleagues is probably even better to maintain a sort-of accountability to show up to studies.

I've seen many (even good) students perform worse during these times and the last 2 years of the pandemic. Maybe due to the social distancing and the fact that they mostly operate from their home-office.
 

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Thanks Peatful. I think this is valuable advice.

Thinking back in time, I was much more productive and had a different state of mind, when I studied at the university's library, just because of the surrounding of other people studying. But a personal group of colleagues is probably even better to maintain a sort-of accountability to show up to studies.

I've seen many (even good) students perform worse during these times and the last 2 years of the pandemic. Maybe due to the social distancing and the fact that they mostly operate from their home-office.
I wasn’t even thinking through the lens of COVID or social distancing when I wrote this. Was just thinking of my (normal) time in grad school.

So with your observations and experience - it’s currently more important than we realize.

Best to you.
 

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For starters, I'm going to guess you "don't know what you want to be when you grow up". I say that tongue-in-cheek and don't mean any disrespect at all. I mention it because you're saying I want straight A's, not I want to be the best #job position#. Meaning, you don't have a set profession that you're crazy about. So, if that is the case, it's not a bad idea to want to just go for the great grades, as you mention.

Many of the cliches would tend to be true here, I'd say: discipline, hard work, and a you-don't-get-something-for-nothing perspective. You need to combat the laziness with discipline, the not-so-genetically-gifted with hard work, and fortify these with a you-don't-get-something-for-nothing perspective. With regard to you-don't-get-something-for-nothing, that is to say there is no easy way; work is necessary, valuable, and good—nothing good comes easy (yep, another cliche). Now, I'd say you have to temper all your efforts with the reality of failure, but in many cases those are temporary and can be overcome; and when they can't be over come, after an honest effort, it's necessary to accept what you can and can't do, within a given scenario, time-frame, environment, etc. I realize the goal is straight A's and many people would say failure is not an option: I say go for the straight A's and if you're sincere you'll stumble into the right role, even if you fall short of the straight A's.

Most important is attitude, as you enter into the struggle of the work. Find those things that you are good at and use them to your advantage and encouragement, against any frustrations within the struggles. As well, find those study environments and types of exercises or approaches of study that bring the best out of you. Also, keep a perspective of what your objective is: you want to get straight A's so you can get a good job, but in my opinion the most important thing in all this is to find out what you're really tuned for and really like to do. Maybe you're already a bit more focused on a particular field, but I'm just going off of your OP.

This is all I have for now. Good luck.
 

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Mostly just how you utilize your time and the techniques used to learn new material. The educational approach in the classroom also matters, as does feeling like what your learning isn't corporate interested to help their commodity sales or bull**** dogma that you'll be attacked for questioning. Also the stress of being surveilled and psychologically abused by the military industrial complex or capitalist police state can be stressful and lower and affect school performance.

Peat has said giving poor students more protein and that using thiamine supplements would help with memory recall. A majority of "education" is just regurgitation and most "teachers" could be replaced by simple computer programs.

He has also said that using cynomel gave him graetky enhanced memory recall

Intelligence has nothing to do with genetics. Thanks for parroting bull****, glad to know you've read and followed up on Peats research during all of the years you've been reading and posting on the forum (sarcasm)
Intelligence and metabolism

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I was a C student high school and an A student in college. The stress of living with my deranged parents caused me to underachieve and feel hopeless. After living in a dorm for a while I felt so much better.
 

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Why would you want to be A+ student?

Being A+ student means you are good at bending in front of authority. not questioning what you are being told, not thinking for yourself, going with the herd, not sticking out and parroting nonsense.

Good little obedient unconscious follower.

Complete opposite is desirable.
 

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Why would you want to be A+ student?

Being A+ student means you are good at bending in front of authority. not questioning what you are being told, not thinking for yourself, going with the herd, not sticking out and parroting nonsense.

Good little obedient unconscious follower.

Complete opposite is desirable.
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Degrees are overrated unless you are becoming some kind of specialist in medicine or law. My husband went to a good school studied really hard got good grades, and he still had to start from the bottom up in a career. Now he may be further ahead than someone who didn't get a 4 yr degree, but the expense of the school was insane. Then you basically forget everything you studied in 10 yrs anyway especially if you are doing it just to get a good grade. I am the biggest fan of learning things the unschool way. You will remember it way longer if you don't memorize for grades. Everything I know about health and nutrition is from my own passion of learning it not because I had to study for grades.
 

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Why would you want to be A+ student?

Being A+ student means you are good at bending in front of authority. not questioning what you are being told, not thinking for yourself, going with the herd, not sticking out and parroting nonsense.

Good little obedient unconscious follower.

Complete opposite is desirable.

I agree. The people who are most obtuse, conformist, incurious, and least burdened by conscience do best in terms of getting ahead, climbing the corporate ladder, etc. What could possibly go wrong in a society organized in such a manner? Oops.
 

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You may lack the energy to be an A+ student. I spent my time in college sick and mostly incapable of making friends, needless to say it did not have a good impact on my grades. At first I thought that my bad grades were coming from me wasting time on video games or internet. I thought if I conquered these "addictions", then I should be able to be a good student.
For my second year of college, I decided to live alone in a house with no internet connection far away from campus. This forced me to be in the library until late in the evening and I would do all my homework and studying there. My grades improved some, but I never got straight A's. I was constantly exhausted, and often spent my time in the library asleep with my head on a desk. Looking back, it was obvious that my body simply did not have the metabolic energy to take on these tasks, but I was forcing it anyways. My hair thinned, I gained several new wrinkles on my forehead, more acne, but my gpa did not move very much.
My adherence to a ketogenic diet and regular endurance exercise was not helping me looking back on it lol. Also, since my house was so far away I would mostly eat out or sometimes I would eat once a day. In my program, this was not irregular and the bald spots and grey hairs of many physics undergraduates were plainly visible despite them being only 20/21. This was not the case for any of the business classes I took haha.
If you have any health issues sort them out first or else they will screw you over. When you feel you are ready, then continue with your education. Some people may be able to just tough it out, but if you cant it is not something to be ashamed of. Take some time off to address your health issues, college is even shittier with its mandates and whatnot so you won't be missing much. Interestingly, the classes I was able to make friends with people and study with them I would almost always get A's. While it may seem beneficial to study on your own for 14 hours every day it will exhaust you and demoralize you. The other popular option is to sell your soul and take Adderall.
 

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Hello everyone,

I am interested in your perspective on this one.

Do you think it is possible to become an A+ student if you are starting off as a lazy, not so genetically-gifted person to begin with?

If so, what would you focus on physiologically and psychologically to achieve this?

Drop your hypothesis / thoughts / recommendations down below. (Feel free, this is an open-discussion)

I think this will stimulate an interesting conversation.

Every day, read something that is little bit over your current level. For example, 30 minutes of something hard on morning and 30 minutes of something easy/joyful on evening. Take notes on what you read. If you are full time student, 2-3 hours on morning and 30 minutes evening. And i mean physical books - no devices, unless studies require them. Try to see it as bettering yourself every day.

Just reading a lot is important, as it develops your vocabulary. Understanding one new key concept can change persons life, accumulating new words is basically same thing. If you don't know what some word means, always check it.

Read on different subjects, history, philosophy, hard sciences, classic literature, etc. If you only read your curriculum for studies, you miss a lot of details, because it will be harder to understand how everything fits together.

How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler is worth checking out (it has nice reading list in the end). It is college level, i guess.

The Greatest Books: The Best Books of All Time - 1 to 50
for alternative reading list/s. Some are easy, some are hard, most will change you.

A History of Philosophy -series by Copleston is pricey, but best on subject. Worth it in my opinion.
 

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