Lack of masculinity in teens

[InChristAlone]

whats that mean? the father was wounded before having the child, or the father wounded the child in some way

Either a Father that was not around, or was an alcoholic or physically abusive and angry, or just emotionally unavailable.

 

[Kayaker]

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Non-binary fashion? Isn't that called "unisex"?

 

[Ascending]

bump

 

[VitoScaletta]

Average birth age is like 30+ now, instead of traditionally 19-25, when the women's Testosterone is at its highest in her life and she is healthiest
Prenatal Testosterone us very important

Have kids young guys ?

 

[opethfeldt]

Average birth age is like 30+ now, instead of traditionally 19-25, when the women's Testosterone is at its highest in her life and she is healthiest
Prenatal Testosterone us very important

Have kids young guys ?

If that were economically viable, more people would have kids young. It's far more detrimental to grow up in poverty than to have less prenatal testosterone exposure.

 

[VitoScaletta]

If that were economically viable, more people would have kids young. It's far more detrimental to grow up in poverty than to have less prenatal testosterone exposure.

Well of course, that's the reason people are marrying much later nowadays... Back in the day you could finish high school and that'd be enough for a job to support your entire family. Or people just focused on their upper education more seriously, and finished with it by age 23, instead of screwing around until they are in their 30s

>It's far more detrimental to grow up in poverty than to have less prenatal testosterone exposure.

Not sure. depression, autism, lack of brain masculinization sounds as bad
Ethnics have kids young and they end up fine and happy. Only whites wait until its economically viable

 

[ddjd]

View: https://twitter.com/KryptosAri/status/1510331761410158593?t=Jh7kU7afIVFWpgy2BBa8WQ&s=19

 

[VitoScaletta]

View: https://twitter.com/KryptosAri/status/1510331761410158593?t=Jh7kU7afIVFWpgy2BBa8WQ&s=19

Absolute Chad

 

[Morgan]

Non-binary fashion? Isn't that called "unisex"?

The fact that clothing has an assigned gender is kind of ridiculous outside of garments that support actual physical features.

 

[Androsclerosis]

 

[Vileplume]

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Well, sugar doesn't seem to make Richie fat.

 

[Neeters 27]

Boys are being raised by women mainly. There comes a time when a boy needs to become a man and leave his Mommy. That's just not happening soon enough or never. Parents are enabling it. Helicopter parenting especially. They don't allow boys to roam the forest anymore and there certainly isn't trade apprenticeship happening much anymore. The reliance on computers is causing weak men. Why learn to grow your own food or learn jujitsu if you can play video games for hours after work? Or spend hours searching for the porn you like instead of actually talking to women.

You hit the nail on the head exactly!!!!!!!!!

 

[FoodForeal]

 

[Sefton10]

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Where is this from please?

 

[TheSir]

Where is this from please?

Written by Bertrand Russel, the name of the book can be seen in the header. Seems to be a real quote, which is interesting since it so accurately describes our times. https://www.98chan.org/assets/1953---impact-of-science-on-society---bertrand-russell.pdf

 

[GreekDemiGod]

I think genetics, pre-natal nutrition and attraction towards physical activity matter a lot more that the child’s/ boy’s nutrition. If you look at the zoomer demographic, on Tiktok or whatever social media, there are still plenty of tall Chads with chiselled jaws and robust development. They have high metabolism, optimal digestion, rarely complain of health issues. Most of them play sports or lift since an early age, tend to be high energy, high dopamine.
The contrast is now staggering. On one hand, you get a lot of recessed, weak and neotenous nerdy boys/ men with less than average genetics, and on the other hand you get the genetic elites, tall and in vibrant health. Not much in-between.

 

[Androsclerosis]

I think genetics, pre-natal nutrition and attraction towards physical activity matter a lot more that the child’s/ boy’s nutrition. If you look at the zoomer demographic, on Tiktok or whatever social media, there are still plenty of tall Chads with chiselled jaws and robust development. They have high metabolism, optimal digestion, rarely complain of health issues. Most of them play sports or lift since an early age, tend to be high energy, high dopamine.
The contrast is now staggering. On one hand, you get a lot of recessed, weak and neotenous nerdy boys/ men with less than average genetics, and on the other hand you get the genetic elites, tall and in vibrant health. Not much in-between.

People who are on TikTok are already rich and they do it mostly for attention.
A low stress life combined with genetics makes them look that good.
A lot of people have potential on becoming attractive simply by decreasing estrogen to the point that their faces take contour.
It's hard to be poor and healthy. If the government would limit food intake to just milk and bread, people would feel much better.
I go outside everyday and the percentages of people with bellyfat or some sort of insulin resistance is at least 80%. I also see fat people and skinny fat but not much in between as you mentioned.
Let's not talk about high testosterone, which I believe that the optimal amount of at least 600 Ng/dl is found in less than 15% of people.
We have to wait just 10 years more and we will see the degradation of the human race.

 

[haidut]

Let's not talk about high testosterone, which I believe that the optimal amount of at least 600 Ng/dl is found in less than 15% of people.
We have to wait just 10 years more and we will see the degradation of the human race.

No need to wait 10 years. When the majority of modern males are either clinically hypogonadal or dangerously close to being so (see article below), I'd say it is game over. And btw, the T levels of those Buzzfeed "men" were <300, which is already low-enough to cause feminization.

75% Of Buzzfeed Male Staff Have 'Dangerously Low' Testosterone Levels

75% of male staff working for Buzzfeed have dangerously low testosterone levels, according to a medical report released on Saturday.

newspunch.com

It is a well-established fact in medicine that the default phenotype is female, regardless of genetic programming, so if a "male" is not producing enough T then "he" will develop a strikingly female phenotype complete with breasts that would make Samantha Fox insecure. That explains quite easily the epidemic of transgenderism we are seeing currently - i.e. it is a simply a manifestation of profound/clinical hypogonadism in most young males today.

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/111654/version/1/pdf/render.pdf

"...Normal men produce - 45mcg of estradiol each day, a sixth of which is secreted by the testes and the remainder of which is derived from the extraglandular aromatization of circulating androgens (1). Extraglandular estradiol formation takes place by two mechanisms, one from the direct conversion of testosterone to estradiol and the other from androgens of adrenal origin by the sequence of androstenedione - estrone - estradiol. The function of estradiol in normal men is unknown, but feminization, commonly manifested by gynecomastia, ensues under conditions of relative or absolute estrogen excess(2). "
"...Relative estrogen excess occurs when the synthesis or action of androgen is impaired but estrogen production is maintained at or near normal (as occurs in testicular regression or in testicular failure when testicular androgen production ceases but the formation of estrogens from adrenal androgens is unimpaired (3,4]). Thus, in the absence of the opposing effects of androgen, sufficient estrogen is produced by normal men to result in profound breast enlargement."

The men over at Buzzfeed don't seem to have large breasts yet, but they are young and probably still producing sufficient amounts of estrogen blockers like progesterone and pregnenolone. Once that wears off, those "dudes" will probably be all wearing bras. The epidemic of infertility in people of child-bearing age (about 1 in 4 couples cannot conceive naturally) is another testament to the profound hypogonadism crippling both sexes - in women driven mostly by estrogenic BC and in men by a variety of environmental factors, including "food".
Btw, the old lower bound on T levels used to be, to my knowledge, 500 and if that lower limit was used today, we will basically have only 1% of the "male" population qualify as men. The rest would be feminized, profoundly disturbed humanoids with testicles, and sadly those humanoids can function properly as neither males nor females. I understand why 50%+ of them attempt suicide - it is crushing to live in such a bizarre mental state where both properly developed genders see them as aliens. The men see them as feminized former-males, and the women see them as masculinized never-females.

 

[TheSir]

Btw, the old lower bound on T levels used to be, to my knowledge, 500 and if that lower limit was used today, we will basically have only 1% of the "male" population qualify as men

Though above 500 ng/dl is becoming less common, it is clear that even among young American males, a group which to my understanding is less masculine than any other demographic in the West, crossing that threshold is not that rare -- or at least was not mere 9 years ago.


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https://file.scirp.org/Html/3-1990038_35410.htm

 

[haidut]

Though above 500 ng/dl is becoming less common, it is clear that even among young American males, a group which to my understanding is less masculine than any other demographic in the West, crossing that threshold is not that rare -- or at least was not mere 9 years ago.

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https://file.scirp.org/Html/3-1990038_35410.htm

True, and to me the scary part about that graph is how obviously it is skewed to the left - i.e. towards the bottom 25%-30% of the (already unhealthily low) "normal" range. This means we will probably see another revision of the "normal" range soon (as they did for prolactin and TSH recently), which will move the entire range lower by 200 points. So, the new "normal" range will become 100-700.