Lack of masculinity in teens

[PeatandPotatoes]

In my school I happen t notice most if not all of the others have a lack of masculinity in there personality and don’t value it. What do you think is the cause of this?

I believe it is the lack of masculine role models in our society today and the rise of feminist propaganda

 

[Donttreadonme]

Most teens are not masculine to begin with as their androgens have not had a lot of time to alter the body and mind. Keep in mind a lot of what you call personality is your perception of someone based on their appearance and you do it unconsciously.

 

[Murtaza]

i think it has to do with the modern diet thats ladden with pufa and phytoestrogens. Combine that with a non-stimulating life style where you get your dopamine hits from porn and social media. Look into 'universe 25' rat experiments, i think we're experiencing the same phenomena in humans.

 

[Jon2547]

In my school I happen t notice most if not all of the others have a lack of masculinity in there personality and don’t value it. What do you think is the cause of this?

I believe it is the lack of masculine role models in our society today and the rise of feminist propaganda

I would concur. Feminism has been on the rise over the last hundred years and its devastating effects are seen thru out the westernized societies.

 

[Vileplume]

I think diet is the biggest input that leads to this. A person’s masculinity is often, not always but often, reflected in the way their body looks. Along with a decrease in masculinity we’ve seen an increase in paleness, baldness, obesity, lack of muscle, gynecomastia, and a general lifelessness or exhaustion in the face.

At a grocery store, 95% of the food options are directly harmful in some way. Added vitamins and minerals with harmful byproducts, grains that harm the digestive system, PUFAs, soluble fiber that feeds gut bacteria, high fructose corn syrup with it’s mysterious contaminants and starch. So the average person has higher levels of estrogen than they should, higher levels of endotoxin, and trends toward diabetes.

I used to teach high school, and it seemed like 1-2% of students had healthy bodies. The average student was overweight, which has increased observably even since I was in high school 12 years ago.

 

[Peatness]

In my school I happen t notice most if not all of the others have a lack of masculinity in there personality and don’t value it. What do you think is the cause of this?

I believe it is the lack of masculine role models in our society today and the rise of feminist propaganda

I would concur. Feminism has been on the rise over the last hundred years and its devastating effects are seen thru out the westernized societies.

Blame feminism and not your toxic food/water supply and goverments endorsing big pharma poisons? I can understand @PeatandPotatoes using this weak argument but @Jon2547 you should know better

 

[redsun]

In my school I happen t notice most if not all of the others have a lack of masculinity in there personality and don’t value it. What do you think is the cause of this?

I believe it is the lack of masculine role models in our society today and the rise of feminist propaganda

Its just lack of whole food and nutrient density and high PUFA diets reducing androgens which promote masculine behavior through their effects on metabolism and the nervous system.

Its not ideology, its diet/lifestyle destroying health (males and females) and thus reducing sexually dimorphic behavior.

 

[Donttreadonme]

I don't think it's fair to call a teenage male masculine or not for the reasons I state about about androgens.

That being said, there are tons of guys in their mid-20s who are really feminine. There was one guy at my company who wore skinny jeans and had a man-bum and if had a purse then he could have been a woman.

Kids don't play outside anymore. They don't play in dirt. They don't ride BMX bikes through muddy forests. They don't go fishing. They don't fix cars. Mostly for the last 25 years, kids basically live online inside. I missed being that generation by a few years. I get a tremendous amount of young women in their late teens and early 20s interested in me (I'm married though). Some people are work call me "not politically correct" and a "dinosaur". I'm fine being a t-rex compared to most guys sheep.

I took classes a few years ago at college and it was funny watching these young guys get intimidated about talking to a girl and get intimidated by all kinds of small things. Society is changing. It was inevitable with the computer and wifi revolution.

 

[InChristAlone]

Boys are being raised by women mainly. There comes a time when a boy needs to become a man and leave his Mommy. That's just not happening soon enough or never. Parents are enabling it. Helicopter parenting especially. They don't allow boys to roam the forest anymore and there certainly isn't trade apprenticeship happening much anymore. The reliance on computers is causing weak men. Why learn to grow your own food or learn jujitsu if you can play video games for hours after work? Or spend hours searching for the porn you like instead of actually talking to women.

 

[L_C]

Blame feminism and not your toxic food/water supply and goverments endorsing big pharma poisons? I can understand @PeatandPotatoes using this weak argument but @Jon2547 you should know better

I agree with this. Women are always blamed for everything. There are many women out there who don't fall for the traps of feminism (masculinization of women)...but you show me a man who has not been changed by the patriarchy. Man of today is not what he used to be back 2,000-3,000 years ago. We don't even know what feminine is anymore because it got completely annihilated and oppressed by the patriarchy. Hence, I will reject feminism as much as I can and will embrace whatever feminine is left in me.

 

[Jon2547]

I agree with this. Women are always blamed for everything. There are many women out there who don't fall for the traps of feminism (masculinization of women)...but you show me a man who has not been changed by the patriarchy. Man of today is not what he used to be back 2,000-3,000 years ago. We don't even know what feminine is anymore because it got completely annihilated and oppressed by the patriarchy. Hence, I will reject feminism as much as I can and will embrace whatever feminine is left in me.

You have a good handle on this. There are women that don't fall in the trap and they should be held up as examples.

But I'm not sure it was patriarchy that annihilated femininity. It really all goes back to the serpent that caused Eve to eat and then Adam to follow after her. The LORD said to Adam: "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;" Gen 3:17

 

[pauljacob]

Boys are being raised by women mainly. There comes a time when a boy needs to become a man and leave his Mommy. That's just not happening soon enough or never. Parents are enabling it. Helicopter parenting especially. They don't allow boys to roam the forest anymore and there certainly isn't trade apprenticeship happening much anymore. The reliance on computers is causing weak men. Why learn to grow your own food or learn jujitsu if you can play video games for hours after work? Or spend hours searching for the porn you like instead of actually talking to women.

+1

 

[L_C]

You have a good handle on this. There are women that don't fall in the trap and they should be held up as examples.

But I'm not sure it was patriarchy that annihilated femininity. It really all goes back to the serpent that caused Eve to eat and then Adam to follow after her. The LORD said to Adam: "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;" Gen 3:17

I dismissed the church when I was 12 and there is no way for me to go back to it. I know I'm not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me. I'm done living in the patriarchal world full of sin. I want something different for myself.

Patriarchy completely stripped a woman of her place in the society which is her birthright and she basically became a property of a man. Yang (male) started to dominate, not balanced by yin (feminine). Women were nothing but the whores or witches that should be burned, raped etc. same as nature. If you follow the scriptures, then yes it allows a man to do all that to a woman without thinking twice what they are doing is right or wrong. Woman today has some rights as long as she executes male agenda (feminism).

I see religion as a political system that allowed a selected few (especially the church) to take advantage of others and accumulate gigantic amount of wealth. These scriptures are for you to obey (not the church) so they can enslave you. Same as today, we have laws and rules that are for you and me to follow but the government is doing whatever heck they want.

 

[InChristAlone]

I dismissed the church when I was 12 and there is no way for me to go back to it. I know I'm not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me. I'm done living in the patriarchal world full of sin. I want something different for myself.

Patriarchy completely stripped a woman of her place in the society which is her birthright and she basically became a property of a man. Yang (male) started to dominate, not balanced by yin (feminine). Women were nothing but the whores or witches that should be burned, raped etc. same as nature. If you follow the scriptures, then yes it allows a man to do all that to a woman without thinking twice what they are doing is right or wrong. Woman today has some rights as long as she executes male agenda (feminism).

I see religion as a political system that allowed a selected few (especially the church) to take advantage of others and accumulate gigantic amount of wealth. These scriptures are for you to obey (not the church) so they can enslave you. Same as today, we have laws and rules that are for you and me to follow but the government is doing whatever heck they want.

I abandoned the church for many years but I've come back around to God. I don't know any Christian that believes treating women like whores is okay.

 

[Doc Sandoz]

In my school I happen t notice most if not all of the others have a lack of masculinity in there personality and don’t value it. What do you think is the cause of this?

I believe it is the lack of masculine role models in our society today and the rise of feminist propaganda

Please define what you mean by "masculinity" in a personality.

 

[Jon2547]

Please define what you mean by "masculinity" in a personality.

If he has to define masculinity, well that right there shows that there is indeed a real problem.

 

[Doc Sandoz]

If he has to define masculinity, well that right there shows that there is indeed a real problem.

Words mean different things to different people. I want to know what it means to him.

 

[Apple]

Did Ray Peat ever said that masculinity in men is good ? :)
Masculinity as socially constructed...his personality doesn't seem to be very masculine
I think RP is rather neutral , being more on intellectual side rather than playing the man ( in a social context)

 

[InChristAlone]

Did Ray Peat ever said that masculinity in men is good ? :)
Masculinity as socially constructed...his personality doesn't seem to be very masculine
I think RP is rather neutral , being more on intellectual side rather than playing the man ( in a social context)

Being an intellectual is masculine :)

 

[Apple]

Being an intellectual is masculine :)
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I think when they create artificial womb there will be less and less differences like that :))