Kuinone - Liquid, High-dose Vitamin K2 (MK-4) Supplement

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  1. Wagner83

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    That would be a good clue my chocolate milk is void of calcium or close to it which means I'll switch to regular milk again. I never had such problems from estroban but the vit k effects were less dramatic in general.
     
  2. Evan

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    So I just received my first bottle of Kuinone and it there seems to be some crystallization going on. Is this normal? What can I do to resolve this, or should I just use as is? @haidut
     
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    Due to the freezing temps outside some crystaliztion may occur during mailing. You can put the bottle in a glass of hot (but not boiling) water and leave it there for about 5min and then shake the bottle. The crystals should disappear and in most cases may not even require bottle shaking. You can also use as is, but it is probably better to do the warm water procedure.
     
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    Thank you! So grateful for a product like this!
     
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    do this powder dissolve in oil ? it must if others sell it like that
     
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    Vitamin K is a fat-soluble vitamin, so yes, it dissolved in oil but not very well. Also, dissolved in oil it does not absorb as well as something DMSO/ethanol. It should not be dissolved in tocopherol due to the dangerous interactions between the two vitamins Peat talked about and also their mutual inhbition of each other's absorption. So, not many solvent options left.
     
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    I was reading the pub med studies @haidut

    They're interesting for sure

    But for example the k2 mk4 is good for better testosterone production
    And inhibiting testosterone reduction due to polysaccharide

    But if we focus more
    The study is impressing and surprised me

    75mg per kg for 5 weeks or so

    So let's say a person is 100 kg

    So he needs 7500 mg for 35 days

    7.5 grams
    So if a human wanna do that

    He needs 3750 pills a day
    (k2 mk4 1mg/pill or drop)

    Or to take 3750 drops/pills
    (if each 2 mg)
    For more than 10 years
    (365 days a year ==> 3750 days which is about 11 years of supplementing to get the benefits )

    I would be interested to listen to your point of view and opinion please

    Thanks in advance
     
  8. Bahaa El wazzan

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    Why did you use one of 3 types of k2 ( menatreteonone )

    What about the remained 2 ?
    @haidut
     
  9. haidut

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    Do you know that there is conversion factor for doses from rats to humans? Do you also know that 75mg/kg was in terms of DIET dose, which means the rat dose per bodyweight was 7.5mg/kg? If there was no conversion factor most of these studies would have been useless.
     
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    Search the forum, this topic must have come up like at least 50 times. MK-4 has benefits that neither MK-7 not K1 have. Also, MK-4 is the main endogenous vitamin K used by human tissues.
     
  11. Wagner83

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    Well I tried it after consuming regular milk for a few days as opposed to the chocolate milk I bought, and I did not experience the spasms. Whatever happened to my left ankle the first times I took the Kuinone and experienced the spasms can still be felt (it cracks easily). The back and all the rest are fine .
     
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