Just How Healthy Or Normal Is A High High Sex Drive

[TheSir]

Acquired maybe, how do I un acquire it lol. Is it just good old mental discipline?

i mean with finasteride things really went down and it was helpful but it def had negatives. Especially in strength. It seems like my only choice is like a microdose of fine. .05mg inhibits Basically the same as .25. .5 and 1mg. So. Based on this chart maybe .02 -.03 will offer the most optimal results without negatives.

i am middle eastern. I am kinda hairy not obvious unless u wwre looking at me from a a 2 feet away and i lean to the thin side

Discipline, yes. And also tact. It would be important not to even think of sexual thoughts or expose yourself to sexual imagery, because these set off the chain of hormonal reactions that prepare your body for a release. It could be said that the act of sex begins in the mind. The sooner you disrupt this act, the more control you will retain over yourself. In any case, it takes time for the body to unlearn its conditioning. Months to years.

Though in your case it sounds like a mere rebound reaction from having stopped a drug that artificially lowers androgens. Your sex drive should stabilize by itself after a while.

 

[Gone Peating]

Yea stay away from instagram and snapchat and porn and stuff. It’s poison for the mind.

Sexuality is healthy... but all the stuff today is not

 

[GorillaHead]

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[redsun]

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Must be very high histamine then. You can try increasing copper intake from copper rich foods and increase methionine intake. Also vitamin C in large quantities as well should help.

Acquired maybe, how do I un acquire it lol. Is it just good old mental discipline?

i mean with finasteride things really went down and it was helpful but it def had negatives. Especially in strength. It seems like my only choice is like a microdose of fine. .05mg inhibits Basically the same as .25. .5 and 1mg. So. Based on this chart maybe .02 -.03 will offer the most optimal results without negatives.

i am middle eastern. I am kinda hairy not obvious unless u wwre looking at me from a a 2 feet away and i lean to the thin side

Its not acquired, its genetic. Genetically you have high histamine and therefore naturally high libido due to high histamine. Excessive histamine also makes you impulsive, increased obsessions and compulsions especially. Good luck trying to fight that with good "discipline". If you had a sexual partner to deal with the urges it would be much better for you but otherwise you can reduce the sex drive just by lowering histamine just enough to the point where you are more comfortable with it. Not too much as I guarantee you low histamine is way worse than high histamine.

 

[sladerunner69]

Lack of serotonin, high dopamine and high androgens can cause hypersexuality, cabergoline is an example. That's why I think is mostly a good thing, I think the same about the outcomes. And peat usually mention androgens as highly beneficial substances.

I'm not sure but I think he said that masturbation is usually positive but sometimes is caused by high estrogen because E can cause insatiable libido

"High estrogen does sometimes cause insatiable sexual...."
Ray Peat said:
High estrogen does sometimes cause insatiable sexual interest, partly because it increases adrenal androgens, and partly by inhibiting satisfying orgasms. Too much progesterone can suppress or neutralize the androgens. Thyroid is the best way to regulate the system, keeping libido up, making orgasms satisfying.

Estrogen and serotonin can cause obessive sexual interest because these hormones emphasize the organisms most base and primitive survival functions.

 

[lampofred]

I don't think insatiable sex drive is a good thing. I think good hormonal status leads to a sex drive which is strong but not overwhelming.

 

[lampofred]

I have come to believe that feeling the need to release is an acquired condition. A normal, healthy sex drive is one that gives you energy, masculinity and motivation but doesn't make you feel like you are about to explode. Your sexuality should be always present, but never overwhelming. Paradoxically, when you have healthy sex drive, you should be able to abstain from sexual activity indefinitely, with your body automatically converting unused sexual potential into higher forms:

I thought sex actually increased steroidogenesis. But it increases lower quality steroids that lack subtlety like the 5a-reduced version of progesterone. Unsatisfied sex drive actually leads to a lack of neurosteroids due to excess cortisol. It is only when you meditate to properly sublimate the sex drive that the high quality steroids like progesterone are produced.

 

[GutFeeling]

Estrogen and serotonin can cause obessive sexual interest because these hormones emphasize the organisms most base and primitive survival functions.

Serotonin? So why SSRI main side is sexual dysfunction?
Yeah estrogen may increase libido but so does dht and proviron, to get a strong libido suppression by estrogen antagonism you would probably also get bone pain, depression , anxiety and etc. Low libido can be a symptom of high E too

 

[TheSir]

I thought sex actually increased steroidogenesis. But it increases lower quality steroids that lack subtlety like the 5a-reduced version of progesterone. Unsatisfied sex drive actually leads to a lack of neurosteroids due to excess cortisol. It is only when you meditate to properly sublimate the sex drive that the high quality steroids like progesterone are produced.

Quite right. Unsatisfied sex drive implies that you have been, either consciously or unconsciously, building up sexual tension. This kind of pent-up sexual frustration would no doubt elevate cortisol. When you keep your mind clear of sexual thoughts, there won't be any needs to be satisfied, because you are no longer cultivating this need in the first place. To my understanding this erasure of sexual content from your mind is what the sublimation by meditation is about. Or did you have some particular meditative practice in mind?

In addition, chronic stimulation of the lower-quality steroidogenesis you mention is harmful for the reproductive organs in the long term. In animals exposing the male to constant sexual stimulation without giving them a chance to release results in prostate adenoma, and eventually cancer. I think that being exposed to sexual imagery everywhere in the public sphere may contribute to prevalence of prostate cancer in this manner.

 

[sladerunner69]

Serotonin? So why SSRI main side is sexual dysfunction?
Yeah estrogen may increase libido but so does dht and proviron, to get a strong libido suppression by estrogen antagonism you would probably also get bone pain, depression , anxiety and etc. Low libido can be a symptom of high E too

When I take DHT or androsterone, at first my libido goes up considerably. After a couple days, my libido diminishes which I think is due to high dht levels antagonizing estrogen.

It is not exactly known why SSRI's can cause long term sexual dysfunction, but it very well may be chronic serotonin syndrome. However, I know that alcohol increases serotonin significantly, and is known to increase libido in most people, if only temporarily.

It's surely more complex than high E vs low E, I think there needs to be a balance between many hormones for high libido. A good libido is supported by strong metabolism and good energy production.

 

[Kunstruct]

Serotonin? So why SSRI main side is sexual dysfunction?
Yeah estrogen may increase libido but so does dht and proviron, to get a strong libido suppression by estrogen antagonism you would probably also get bone pain, depression , anxiety and etc. Low libido can be a symptom of high E too

Actually not everyone has lower sexual driver on various SSRI. I know someone who once started taking became crazed about sex and the whole person was crazed with sexual thoughts.
Also some of these drugs can even cause priapism in certain individuals.
And cabergoline boosting libido through the roof, not really, like most so called dopamine drugs has massive affinity for various serotonin receptors, not sure why this is always leaved out. Some people I know even puke on it and stop taking it, another person tried bromocriptine 2 week prescribed, felt only nausea and apathy.
As a fact the same person on cabergoline had zero libido, yet on anti-depressants through the roof.
Proviron, it is obvious has zero effect on some people, while it has effect on others.

So while many can say their libido was bad on certain drugs for others it is the opposite.

 

[baccheion]

Forgot to upload my estradiol blood test

39 is higher, eh? Males are normally upper 20s and even lower seems to be favored on this forum.

What about DHT, prolactin, testosterone (free), etc?