I know that when I supplement pure EAAs in place of meals I feel immediately better. Although I think that’s also due to the sheer amount of lysine, because I feel it within minutes of ingesting. What else may be going on, I’m not sure. The powder completely dissolves, and I add a little lemon juice to dissolve the leucine, so I guess it’s effectively a bolus of aminos entering the blood.
I could never live without meat, especially beef. But its personal, if you eat eggs, dairy, seafood, you're probably fine. But without meat i feel very deprived.
The problem with too much meat, from my understanding is this:
Too high tryptophan, methione, cystine compared to other amino acids
Often too high protein compared to carbohydrates
Too high PUFA (depending on choice of meat, like chicken)
Too high iron (if a lot of red meat)
Effects of all of the above can be countered... to a degree, but it can make things difficult... some ways to counter (not an exhaustive list)
Counter tryptophan with enough carbs (also counters high protein intake in general)
Counter PUFA with SFA's
Counter iron with iron chelators / iron inhibitors like caffeine
So it's not enough to just say "meat is bad", context is key, but it most definitely can make things trickier.
Thanks, Cirion, this is a nice summary. Do you have any personal experience with high or low meat intake to speak of?
Have same observation with the hair, when I feel bad I get a white tongue and hair becomes wavy. For me it happens with any fat or protein, I think it might be stress related from additional endotoxins from undigested proteins. My skin also becomes oily.I’ve gone on and off meat many times, and I’m currently off of it again.
I mainly go by cravings, and I’ve found that I’m really enjoying my conscious states using lentils instead of meat. Cows meat for sure has a negative effect on my sebum production and cystic acne, seafood and pork are neutral.
I’ve been consuming about 4-6 eggs a day and cheese and milk to cravings, which isn’t that much as of late, maybe 2-4 oz of cheese a day and 2-3 glasses of skim milk.
My skin is noticeably less oily with lentils instead of meat, and my appetite and mood regulation are improved with lentils vs meat.
Should I have a craving for meat, I’ll eat it, but as of now I’m much too enjoying these lentils induced conscious states, or rather, lack of negative conscious states induced by excess muscle meat, milk, and fruit.
I make a nice tomato lentil stew for lunch and for breakfast/dinner I’ll have a more savory lentil dish with some toast or rice, and all 3 dishes are served either with mango juice to drink, in addition to some cheese or eggs, but not both combined, depending on what my body is telling me, sometimes there is no animal product with the meal.
Milk is usually kept separate from the starches, and combined with coffee/tea and fruit makes a good snack for me, as the caffeine/sugar wards of the negative opioid effects I usually get from milk alone.
And tonight as my final pre-bedtime meal I’ll be having cheesy potatoes with added butter and ketchup :) maybe some oj and apple sauce as well.
Edit: excess milk tends to cause a drug like depressed effects on my eyes. Absence of milk usually improves my complexion, but there are other times when I heavily crave milk and notice improved mood from drinking it. Attached are two photos, one when I’m under the influence of excess milk, where you can note the disarrayed hair, puffier face, and slightly depressed eyes. In the second one my hair naturally is put together, and my eyes aren’t so depressed, and face as puffy (still working on it tho).
When I’m most free from inflammation my eyes aren’t depressed, and my hair is straight instead of wavy. This is very hard for me to achieve as I usually have to fast on only fruits and vegetables to achieve this, and is no way sustainable.
Have same observation with the hair, when I feel bad I get a white tongue and hair becomes wavy. For me it happens with any fat or protein, I think it might be stress related from additional endotoxins from undigested proteins. My skin also becomes oily.
It’s not all about the metabolism, I think it’s the combination of low chronic stress (good diet being #1 factor imo) and high metabolism while inducing occasional bursts of stress to make the body more robust (exercise, a 1 day fast, cold shower) through adapting to this.Yes I think inflammation from endotoxins is at the root of it, and why some people maintain good health despite eating a ***t diet, in that their metabolism is good and they have good digestion so endotoxins isn’t produced from inappropriate meals.
Getting to that robust metabolism is the goal lol, because micromanaging the diet can get taxing once life gets in the way, and it would be nice to not have to be so nit picky about what can and can’t be eaten based on the current physiological state.
I wonder if a drug like Cypro could be used on an as needed basis, when the diet won’t be optimal, in order to supercharge digestion and minimize endotoxins?
I’m craving some chicken wings really badly right now so looks like I’m consuming meat again.
Funny enough, I really only want chicken wings. I think the skin, connective tissue, ligaments, and tendons that are present in high amounts is what I’m really after.
I will be eating as much of the wing as I possibly can, sucking that baby dry.
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