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I enjoy the taste of smoke salmon tbh

bagels are terrible though, just very dense bread. Wouldn't eat them even regardless of gluten issues.
I find there's something hard to resist about boiled bakery products... only pretzels can top them in my opinion.
 

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You goys do realize that both the Roman Catholic Church and the Jews (The crazy Zionist ones) can be scumbags who do a lot of bad things, right?
 

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Jesuits behind Jewish control seems to be controlled opposition - or at least distraction. Where were the Jesuits during Maoism, Leninism, Bolshevism, the red scare, etc? And yes, JP is part of the "intellectual dark web" - lol!
 

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Jesuits behind Jewish control seems to be controlled opposition - or at least distraction. Where were the Jesuits during Maoism, Leninism, Bolshevism, the red scare, etc? And yes, JP is part of the "intellectual dark web" - lol!
Have you ever looked into the Jesuit lifestyle? They have extreme standards for performance and regimentation similar to the military or some East Asian cultures. Many Jesuit schools have calendar blocks from dawn until dusk. It's no wonder that so many Jesuits have risen to positions of power, such as on the U.S. Supreme Court. Judge Kavanaugh attended a Jesuit high school, and six of the ten justices on the Supreme Court have Catholic backgrounds.

Justices with Catholic backgrounds make up 22% of the U.S. population and 60% of the Supreme Court, so they're 270% over-represented. Jews make up 2% of the U.S. population and 30% of the Supreme Court, so they're 1500% over-represented. All Democratic justices are either women, Jewish or both, whereas all Republicans are male, specifically white males with the exception of Clarence Thomas, who indeed does not represent Black Americans in any sense.

Anyway, the Rothschild family regularly loans money to the Holy See (the Pope). European rulers have always borrowed from Jews and became indebted due to the nature of compound interest. Instead of paying the interest, kings and emperors expelled Jewish lenders periodically because of the monarch's inability to pay back such large sums. Following the Napoleonic Wars, the Rothschild family made multiple massive loans to the Catholic Church numbering close to $100 million in today's dollars, which indebted the Church and established an indefinite financial dependency. It's unknown as to the influence of the Rothschild family on Papal doctrine; however, in the 1960s, Vatican II reversed the Church's exclusionary stance on Jews coincident with much liberalization within the Church.

Unfortunately, the aforementioned historical truths often become discredited through association with conspiracy theorists. Other religious phenomena, such as Freemasonry remain interesting subjects nonetheless. In its earlier manifestations, Freemasonry served as a männerbund, or strictly male, hierarchical organization similar to the knightly orders of Europe, such as the Teutonic Order and Knights Templar. In its more modern stages, however, Freemasonry drifted away from its strict ritualistic and ascetic traditions of individuation and spiritual transformation into a more secular institution, one with "universal," as in non-exclusionary values, such as compassion, service to one's community and so on. In circles associated with elitism, occult practices in search of demonic power emerged, such as obsessions with concepts such as the "Left-Hand Path," which represented the lunar, feminine or, as Nietzsche put it, the "Dionysian" expression of emotion and passion as the driving force for being. In opposition, the solar, masculine, and, once again from from Nietzsche, "Apollonian" "Right-Hand Path,"represented an imposition of the rational mind over the individual. Within the past several decades, Satanism associated itself with Freemasonry and glorified a lack of restraint, where the former idealized total indulgence and amplification of base emotions such as anger and hatred. Satanism also idealized impulsivity and unbridled promiscuity.

Therefore, there's a kind of simultaneous consolidation and degeneration of all spiritual institutions over the past few centuries, where various orders abrogate the search for higher truths and instead placate the need for lower forms of spirituality, free from self individuation.
 

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Have you ever looked into the Jesuit lifestyle? They have extreme standards for performance and regimentation similar to the military or some East Asian cultures. Many Jesuit schools have calendar blocks from dawn until dusk. It's no wonder that so many Jesuits have risen to positions of power, such as on the U.S. Supreme Court. Judge Kavanaugh attended a Jesuit high school, and six of the ten justices on the Supreme Court have Catholic backgrounds.

Justices with Catholic backgrounds make up 22% of the U.S. population and 60% of the Supreme Court, so they're 270% over-represented. Jews make up 2% of the U.S. population and 30% of the Supreme Court, so they're 1500% over-represented. All Democratic justices are either women, Jewish or both, whereas all Republicans are male, specifically white males with the exception of Clarence Thomas, who indeed does not represent Black Americans in any sense.

Anyway, the Rothschild family regularly loans money to the Holy See (the Pope). European rulers have always borrowed from Jews and became indebted due to the nature of compound interest. Instead of paying the interest, kings and emperors expelled Jewish lenders periodically because of the monarch's inability to pay back such large sums. Following the Napoleonic Wars, the Rothschild family made multiple massive loans to the Catholic Church numbering close to $100 million in today's dollars, which indebted the Church and established an indefinite financial dependency. It's unknown as to the influence of the Rothschild family on Papal doctrine; however, in the 1960s, Vatican II reversed the Church's exclusionary stance on Jews coincident with much liberalization within the Church.

Unfortunately, the aforementioned historical truths often become discredited through association with conspiracy theorists. Other religious phenomena, such as Freemasonry remain interesting subjects nonetheless. In its earlier manifestations, Freemasonry served as a männerbund, or strictly male, hierarchical organization similar to the knightly orders of Europe, such as the Teutonic Order and Knights Templar. In its more modern stages, however, Freemasonry drifted away from its strict ritualistic and ascetic traditions of individuation and spiritual transformation into a more secular institution, one with "universal," as in non-exclusionary values, such as compassion, service to one's community and so on. In circles associated with elitism, occult practices in search of demonic power emerged, such as obsessions with concepts such as the "Left-Hand Path," which represented the lunar, feminine or, as Nietzsche put it, the "Dionysian" expression of emotion and passion as the driving force for being. In opposition, the solar, masculine, and, once again from from Nietzsche, "Apollonian" "Right-Hand Path,"represented an imposition of the rational mind over the individual. Within the past several decades, Satanism associated itself with Freemasonry and glorified a lack of restraint, where the former idealized total indulgence and amplification of base emotions such as anger and hatred. Satanism also idealized impulsivity and unbridled promiscuity.

Therefore, there's a kind of simultaneous consolidation and degeneration of all spiritual institutions over the past few centuries, where various orders abrogate the search for higher truths and instead placate the need for lower forms of spirituality, free from self individuation.

I agree that, "there's a kind of simultaneous consolidation and degeneration of all spiritual institutions over the past few centuries" -- for longer than that, even. However the rest of what you say seems vague. For example, "satanism associated itself..." doesn't seem like clear thinking. The root issue is not that one group is working too hard and become disproportionately powerful, I think - but that is how Marxism paints the issue. In short, if I were to choose "... a small, rootless, international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace," then it is obvious who taking those actions personally day-to-day. In media, in medicine, in science, in politics, in war - the vast majority of organized power plays pushing degeneracy in one form or another is not by Jesuits.

Saying that people don't realize that Jesuits are actually in control because they're associated with conspiracy theories is not an argument here. Furthermore, associating international criminal operations with the "international Jews," (as Churchill put it) - is not a claim about "who is really ruling the world," even. It is merely a claim of a long standing pattern of criminal activity protected by a religious and non-religious ethnic group.

You said: "Have you ever looked into the Jesuit lifestyle? They have extreme standards for performance and regimentation similar to the military or some East Asian cultures."
Jews have this too - and I would say the Jews and Jesuits have this positive quality in common. You're not implying that a culture of discipline is negative, are you?
 

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Saying that people don't realize that Jesuits are actually in control because they're associated with conspiracy theories is not an argument here. Furthermore, associating international criminal operations with the "international Jews," (as Churchill put it) - is not a claim about "who is really ruling the world," even. It is merely a claim of a long standing pattern of criminal activity protected by a religious and non-religious ethnic group.
I mean that it's literally unfortunate, as in the dismissal of information because of any ties to "conspiracy theories." That's part of controlled opposition tactics, by the way; support a radical figure with inflammatory or absurd ideas, and then associate the same figure with potentially problematic issues. For example, let's use the terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center on 9-11. Many 9-11 "truthers" had amateur understandings of physics and argued that the towers had demolition explosives, where they pointed to the vertical fall of the towers, which associated any questioning with stupidity. Also, take Alex Jones for instance. He has covered such a broad range of topics including a theory of extraterrestrial interference in our government, and he naturally discredits anything he touches. The majority of any public has barely any ability to supersede their programming; indeed, it's highly suspect as to whether many have fully developed consciousnesses or not: evidence points strongly to the alternative. Legitimate and honest sources make any political message more appealing and open a gateway to additional questions. Any association with a figure like Alex Jones guarantees that the public will turn a blind eye to any particular topic. Lastly, even if the towers fell from controlled demolitions, geopolitical analysis matters more. Who benefits from foreign intervention in the Middle-East? Cui bono?

You're not implying that a culture of discipline is negative, are you?
Obviously not, as that contradicts the thesis of my post: that self-discipline coincides with a higher form of spirituality. As for external, involuntary discipline, it does not support spirituality nearly as much, as the discipline needs to be invoked.

You mentioned Churchill, a total hypocrite in his criticism of Jews paired with radical interventionism in WWII. Coincidentally, Churchill famously had a hefty debt owed to Baron Nathan Rothschild. The Bulldog had a spending habit and often bought booze and cigars to ease his manic depression. Anyway, with the fall of Nazism and dismantlement of fascism, the new policy of Wilsonianism enforced capitalism and democracy on a global scale. Capitalism allows for the rule of the gold coin, and democracy allows the coin-holder to pay off, or in the modern case, manipulate the minds of the masses, as well as the politicians with no recourse. A model for easy appeasement of the masses appeared in ancient Rome with the "bread and circuses" proto-welfare program; it happens today in India with their direct democracy; and it happens in the U.S. with oligarchs who decide the thoughts, feelings and speech of their citizens.

Here's a quote by Fran Lebowitz, a Jewish Communist, writer and actor:

"In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy."
Capitalism requires democracy; it cannot work without it. That's why President Woodrow Wilson imposed both democracy and capitalism. Without democracy, a capitalist would be crushed under the hammer of the state or the monarch. The frame of capitalism in opposition to democracy illustrates the same ingrained, impenetrable control of the Hegelian dialectic, a Marxist tactic. Vladimir Lenin, a Jewish leader at the head of the Bolsheviks in the October Revolution that overthrew the Russian Tsars and established the Soviet Union, which led to the death of 60 million people, said, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." So long as humans remain materialist and seek after wealth, any democratic system will lead to a plutocracy governed by bankers and manipulators of language.
 

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Where were the Jesuits during Maoism, Leninism, Bolshevism, the red scare, etc?!
They were behind the scenes pulling the strings. Communism as well as the twin dialectic of Nazism are their creation. The Jesuits always use Jews as their front-men to hide their involvement.

"In the 17th and 18th centuries the order of the Jesuits began a system of missionary work called “Reductions” in order to catholicize native peoples in Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia and America. These were the beginning of communist and socialist ideas of human society that dominated the 20th century and now have our country by the throat." The Footprints of the Jesuits, by R.W. Thompson (New York: Hunt & Eaton, 1894) pg. 173-177

Communism, Liberation Theology and Social Justice are all Jesuit creations.

An Introduction to the Jesuits
 

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They were behind the scenes pulling the strings. Communism as well as the twin dialectic of Nazism are their creation. The Jesuits always use Jews as their front-men to hide their involvement.

"In the 17th and 18th centuries the order of the Jesuits began a system of missionary work called “Reductions” in order to catholicize native peoples in Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia and America. These were the beginning of communist and socialist ideas of human society that dominated the 20th century and now have our country by the throat." The Footprints of the Jesuits, by R.W. Thompson (New York: Hunt & Eaton, 1894) pg. 173-177

Communism, Liberation Theology and Social Justice are all Jesuit creations.

An Introduction to the Jesuits

This is such low effort propaganda haha! Oh sorry, Jews good (sorry guys, owe you reparations still, right?)... They were controlled all along! Poor people :(
Damned Christians...
 

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This is such low effort propaganda haha! Oh sorry, Jews good (sorry guys, owe you reparations still, right?)... They were controlled all along! Poor people :(
Damned Christians...
No, that's history. Propaganda is blaming one ethnicity of people for all the sins in the world.

as for damnation
"Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the gypsies can assume, dressed as painters, publishers, writers, and schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell it is this Society of Loyola's (the Jesuits)." President John Adams
 

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The Chinese have proved that one false now.
China operates on a market system, but they resemble free trade or laissez-faire capitalism in no sense of the word. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has complete control over China's regulatory and monetary system, and absolute dominion of the country's financial, energy, military, arms manufacturing, medical, education, research and media sectors. China opened their first private-research university in one year ago; all previous universities have had complete state funding and management.

Even within their manufacturing industry, the Chinese government organizes their businesses as a nation. The Chinese government wants to dominate international mining industries, and the country's rapid industrialization positions them to become the unrivaled manufacturing superpower in the next few decades. China has recently begun a nationalization of both their manufacturing and tech industries.

"In recent years, Beijing has forced the consolidation of state-owned industries such as steelmaking, railway equipment and coal mining. The idea was to force these inefficient companies to cut costs, develop new products and turn a profit.

Now it's the auto industry's turn.

This month, three state-owned automakers announced plans to share technology, powertrains, platforms and purchasing. Their ultimate goal: to create a global auto giant.

...In October, the Communist Party's national congress called for state-owned enterprises to accelerate efforts to "create top-tier enterprises" in manufacturing.

The Wuhan initiative appears to be the auto industry's response. The joint statement described the partnership as "a new exploration" to carry out the government's long-term plan — drafted in April — to consolidate China's auto industry.

Under that plan, the government called for "a number of" domestic companies to join the ranks of the world's top 10 automakers.

One may wonder whether Beijing can pull off this merger. That's a legitimate question.

A few years ago, for example, BAIC Motor Group failed to acquire Fujian Motor Industry Group even though the two companies had signed an agreement.

That merger fell apart because of a bureaucratic turf war. The city of Beijing controls BAIC, while the Fujian provincial government owns Fujian.

After lengthy negotiations with BAIC, Fujian's government refused to give up control of Fujian, which was deemed to be a pillar of the province's economy.

But there is no such problem with FAW, Dongfeng and Changan, which are all directly controlled by the central government.

If the government wants this merger to happen, it will happen.

Beijing already has demonstrated its ability to consolidate other state-owned enterprises. The steel industry offers a good example.

Baosteel Group was China's largest steelmaker, while Wuhan Iron and Steel ranked second. After two years' preparation, those two companies merged in 2016."

Source: How China plans to create giant state-owned carmaker

"Westlake University is the first research-oriented university funded by private sources and supported by the Chinese government in the country, domestic news website thepaper.cn reported on Saturday."

Source: China inaugurates first private research-oriented university - Global Times


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No, that's history. Propaganda is blaming one ethnicity of people for all the sins in the world.

as for damnation
"Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the gypsies can assume, dressed as painters, publishers, writers, and schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell it is this Society of Loyola's (the Jesuits)." President John Adams
You say that "propaganda is blaming one ethnicity of people for all the sins in the world," but you also just said, "Communism, Liberation Theology and Social Justice are all Jesuit creations." You probably view all of the major sins in the 21st century as related to those three aforementioned creations, whether as the death toll of Communism, the rise of feminism and widespread use of abortion, adolescent abuse of pornography and exposure to a culture of sexual promiscuity, or post-modern deconstructionism and replacement of traditional Christian principles with atheistic nihilism. If so, then you have blamed "one major [religious group] for all the sins in the world." Thanks for the book by the way, as I added it to my reading list.
 

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No, that's history. Propaganda is blaming one ethnicity of people for all the sins in the world.

Pretty shill-level, Queequeg. So don't blame one group, but blame another? Also, I am not blaming one group for all the sins of the world - so this statement is also a straw man. Your presentation of the "all Jews are controlled by Jesuits" argument is the most transparent I've seen so far. *Goes to check your post history* - ah I guess you've disabled people from seeing it. I didn't notice that was an available feature. Jesuits must have implemented it...
 

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Also, I am not blaming one group for all the sins of the world - so this statement is also a straw man.
No sorry that is no strawman, that is just me reading your posts.
In short, if I were to choose "... a small, rootless, international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace," then it is obvious who taking those actions personally day-to-day. In media, in medicine, in science, in politics, in war - the vast majority of organized power plays pushing degeneracy in one form or another is not by Jesuits.

I dont know what is more scary, your blatant denial of the reality of what you post or you effortless ability to quote Hitler as part of your own thinking.

Hitler btw was a Jesuit creation as well.

"Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the Party.Source: Manfred Barthel, "The Jesuits: History and Legend of the Society of Jesus (New York, 1984), Adolf Hitler, p.266.

"The Fuhrer had come to power, thanks to the votes of the Catholic Zentrum [Center Party overseen by Jesuit Ludwig Kaas], only five years before 1933, but most of the objectives cynically revealed in Mein Kampf were already realized; this book . . . was written by the Jesuit controlled Father Bernhardt Stempfle and signed by Hitler. For . . . it was the Society of Jesus which perfected the famous Pan-German programme as laid out in this book, and the Fuhrer endorsed it." Source: Edmond Paris, The Secret History of the Jesuits, page 138

Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say: "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." Source: Chick.com: Maintenance
 

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Pretty shill-level, Queequeg. So don't blame one group, but blame another?
The Jesuits are a military order of priests created explicitly to return the entire world to the temporal power of the Papacy. The Jews are just a people who share a similar religion. See the difference?
 

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"Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the Party.Source: Manfred Barthel, "The Jesuits: History and Legend of the Society of Jesus (New York, 1984), Adolf Hitler, p.266.

Please provide the primary source for this quote. Where exactely is Hitler supposed to have written or said this?
 
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