Jordan Peterson is finally coming around (to Christ)

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@Pistachio I guess this podcast by JP daughter titled "the dangers of Psychiatric medication" where they trash SSRIs is also part of the "controlled opposition".

 

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@Pistachio I guess this podcast by JP daughter titled "the dangers of Psychiatric medication" where they trash SSRIs is also part of the "controlled opposition".


If you want to get people to by into your BS agenda, you are gonna have to give them bits of truth. Throw them a bone every so often. That's what Peterson does. Fortunately, there are older, wiser conservatives that can see through this.

A limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Victor Marchetti, "spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."
 

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I'm not saying that there is not controlled opposition (although it is much more rare than some conspiracy theorists think) I think for the most part it looks like controlled opposition because the political elites all basically believe the same thing and there are minute differences between them and they falsely project that they are different to maintain power. .
It's not rare. It's the primary method being used today to weaken and destroy conservative resistance to the New World Socialist Order.

Let me repeat that: it's the PRIMARY METHOD. The Soviets mastered this practice with the "Soviet Trust" deception.
But the idea that Jordan Peterson is controlled opposition is hilarious and the argument that I "don't understand the enemy's tactics" is equally funny. So what do you think happened Jordan Peterson gets contacted by "the enemy" and they say to him, "look start pretending that you're against suppression of free speech so we can dupe a bunch of people into believing that freedom of speech and individual responsibility and independence are good things". Because getting people to be independent, free thinkers who do not need or want government help or control that is what the globalists really want right.
Ever heard of a confidence trick?

"A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their trust. Confidence tricks exploit victims using their credulity, naïveté, compassion, vanity, irresponsibility, and greed. Researchers have defined confidence tricks as "a distinctive species of fraudulent conduct ... intending to further voluntary exchanges that are not mutually beneficial", as they "benefit con operators ('con men') at the expense of their victims (the 'marks')"."

You are the mark, Peterson is the Huckster. Understand? He is not a conservative and gives no two shits about free speech. He is an establishment shill.

By the way I'll say again, Jordan Peterson got and still gets a lot of stuff wrong, he used to be very much in the "take your pills" serotonin is good crowd he has now done 180 degrees on that and is a massive vocal critic of that viewpoint. The fact that he was once so pro psychiatric drugs and now is much more skeptical and in many ways anti them, well call me crazy but I don't think it is some intricate ploy to get people to take more meds by telling people that they are bad and almost killed him.
Sounds like cult of personality to me.

His daughter had on her podcast a few days ago someone who believes that the SSRIs and psychotic drugs that are pushed on people are totally useless and do nothing but harm. Is that controlled opposition? I'm sure what the big pharma and globalists really want is people with high profiles trashing their medicines. Is this somehow a double bluff to trick us into taking a different SSRI that they have in the pipeline? Obviously not but to the one who sees everything as a conspiracy theorist there is no argument one can make to change their mind it is no different than the religious fanatic.
All good shills give you some truth. If they didn't, they would never be convincing, would they? They might even go so far as giving you 90% truth. But it's the remaining 10% lie that poisons the punch bowl.
 

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It's not rare. It's the primary method being used today to weaken and destroy conservative resistance to the New World Socialist Order.

Let me repeat that: it's the PRIMARY METHOD.

Ever heard of a confidence trick?

"A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their trust. Confidence tricks exploit victims using their credulity, naïveté, compassion, vanity, irresponsibility, and greed. Researchers have defined confidence tricks as "a distinctive species of fraudulent conduct ... intending to further voluntary exchanges that are not mutually beneficial", as they "benefit con operators ('con men') at the expense of their victims (the 'marks')"."

You are the mark, Peterson is the Huckster. Understand? He is not a conservative and gives no two shits about free speech. He is an establishment shill.


Sounds like cult of personality to me.


All good shills give you some truth. If they didn't, they would never be convincing, would they? They might even go so far as giving you 90% truth. But it's the remaining 10% lie that poisons the punch bowl.

HAHAHAHA this really is hilarious and goes to prove my point. You think that he is tricking people by telling them only "bits of truth" like a confidence trickster!? Well if he is a confidence trickster then he must be the worst one to ever live because he is a bit late in springing his trap to lure people in.

So I ask you again explain to me what is the trick here? What is he luring people towards? Is it globalism, anti-white, Pro big pharma, veganism, socialism?

Is he tricking people to be more dependent on Big Pharma by telling them to question it? He is literally saying that he trusted pharmaceuticals for years and it DESTROYED his life and nearly killed him but somehow this is him luring us in for an even bigger con and what might that be? But I guess that was all fake and planned right? What are you smoking?!

I guess him pushing the all meat diet is so he can eventually trick us into turning vegan somehow? Because he is obviously secretly a vegan fanatic and wants to push the globalist plan of reducing meat consumption by telling everyone that it saved his daughters life, made him lose weight and got him to quit his SSRIs.

Somehow though he is going to spin it all around at the last minute and trap us with an even bigger globalist con which he has fooled us into by arguing against many of the globalist movements.

This is typical of people who cannot escape a conspiracy theory, any evidence to disprove it is always somehow spun as proof that it is even more likely the conspiracy goes that much deeper. No different than flat earth and new age creationists.
 

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If you want to get people to by into your BS agenda, you are gonna have to give them bits of truth. Throw them a bone every so often. That's what Peterson does. Fortunately, there are older, wiser conservatives that can see through this.

And what is he getting people to buy into by saying that Psychiatric medications are bad? The globalist big pharma movement wants us onthese meds all day everyday but somehow he is doing their bidding for some long con by saying they are ***t. Please do share what this con maybe although I feel your response (if you have one) will look somewhat like this...


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HAHAHAHA this really is hilarious and goes to prove my point. You think that he is tricking people by telling them only "bits of truth" like a confidence trickster!? Well if he is a confidence trickster then he must be the worst one to ever live because he is a bit late in springing his trap to lure people in.
He h as lured many would-be conservatives into pseudo-conservatism.
So I ask you again explain to me what is the trick here? What is he luring people towards? Is it globalism, anti-white, Pro big pharma, veganism, socialism?
I've already told you. His primary goal is as a gatekeeper—to keep young men from finding identity in their culture (i.e., race) or religion, and discovering the true culprits behind the NWO (he refused to name the J, like every other shill before him).
Is he tricking people to be more dependent on Big Pharma by telling them to question it? He is literally saying that he trusted pharmaceuticals for years and it DESTROYED his life and nearly killed him but somehow this is him luring us in for an even bigger con and what might that be? But I guess that was all fake and planned right? What are you smoking?!
You're not getting it, Soren. I don't know how many ways I can say it. You clearly don't want to consider that you may have been deceived. Put your pride and ego away and please consider it with maturity and respect. Nobody will think less of you for admitting it. On the contrary, it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong.
I guess him pushing the all meat diet is so he can eventually trick us into turning vegan somehow? Because he is obviously secretly a vegan fanatic and wants to push the globalist plan of reducing meat consumption by telling everyone that it saved his daughters life, made him lose weight and got him to quit his SSRIs.
I've already explained that hucksters must tell some truth. What part of this didn't you understand?
Somehow though he is going to spin it all around at the last minute and trap us with an even bigger globalist con which he has fooled us into by arguing against many of the globalist movements.

This is typical of people who cannot escape a conspiracy theory, any evidence to disprove it is always somehow spun as proof that it is even more likely the conspiracy goes that much deeper. No different than flat earth and new age creationists.
He doesn't have to spin it all around. Gatekeeping is about prevention. Preventing you from being fully awakened. As long as he keeps people like you in the more manageable playpen of cuckery, he doesn't need to do anything more other than throw you the occasional bone to keep you obedient.
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7u3Lu-kzgg



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This whole psyop reminds me of Roosh V., who also claims to have become a Christian recently. Is there a revival going on or more shillery?
 

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He h as lured many would-be conservatives into pseudo-conservatism.

I've already told you. His primary goal is as a gatekeeper—to keep young men from finding identity in their culture (i.e., race) or religion, and discovering the true culprits behind the NWO (he refused to name the J, like every other shill before him).

You're not getting it, Soren. I don't know how many ways I can say it. You clearly don't want to consider that you may have been deceived. Put your pride and ego away and please consider it with maturity and respect. Nobody will think less of you for admitting it. On the contrary, it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong.

I've already explained that hucksters must tell some truth. What part of this didn't you understand?

He doesn't have to spin it all around. Gatekeeping is about prevention. Preventing you from being fully awakened. As long as he keeps people like you in the more manageable playpen of cuckery, he doesn't need to do anything more other than throw you the occasional bone to keep you obedient.
There is no hope arguing with you but I'll give it one last try.

By the way are you a white nationalist by any chance? Because you sure sound like one.

First the idea that I am some JP cult follow/ cuck whatever is once again hilarious. Been a free thinker my whole life never let any individual dictate to me my beliefs, rational and reason is at the basis for all my views.

If he has stopped people from defining themselves on the basis of race well AMEN TO THAT because race is irrelevant as far as I am concerned culture on the other hand is VERY important and he has been a stalwart defender of western culture. You obviously have read very little of him and have just stuck with conspiracy theorist videos on youtube. You've clearly never heard him talk about how blown away he is by western culture and everything it has given us which he has done on many occasions. I recall one time I heard him speak about the gift to the world the architects in a particular city were I think it was in Bruges. If you were a young Belgium hearing that I think that would make you a bit more nationalist, filled with pride with what your ancestors had accomplished but somehow this is all still a double bluff because he is a "gatekeeper" what another absurd throw away conspiracy label. I guess he is also secretly jewish and he sacrifices children to Molock with Bill Gates right?

I did understand your point about hucksters I addressed it explicitly you just refuse to acknowledge and analyse it in any objective way because you are so trapped in your own conspiracy theory you cannot possibly even conceive of the possibility that you might be wrong. I pointed out to you that if he was a huckster he is the worst one of all time because even if I were to accept your premise that he is a only telling some of the truth in order to keep people controlled the things he is telling people are not beliefs that one can have if you want to control a populace and they are not beliefs that will be able to be removed from that populace at a later date, the very nature of the beliefs he is espousing make one more resilient to globalist tendencies. So even if he were a gatekeeper well he has already opened the gate, he has not kept it closed he has done the opposite.

But I can see for you that is not the case because I get the feeling that you are a white nationalist and i HATE ascribing that label to someone because it is the most tired BS argument put out by the far left at every turn to discredit someone but you did specifically mention that he was stopping people from identifying with their race and you seem to be accusing him of being a Jewish shill so apologies if the assumption is wrong but that is what it points to with these references.

So you think that anything that is not a movement to ethnonationalism is of "the enemy" so for you he is a gatekeeper
This whole psyop reminds me of Roosh V., who also claims to have become a Christian recently. Is there a revival going on or more shillery?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7u3Lu-kzgg



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZiovx9FRGU




Ffs so he's part of a grand zionist plot now is he?

And Roosh is a shill too?!

Ok buddy, just to let you know the earth is not flat, the moon is not a secret alien base, the royal family are not lizards and the center of the earth is not hollow and filled with dinosaurs.
 
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Great breakdown of his long winded sentences that say nothing and everything. I was always left empty after his answers to listener questions, where he strays off to something completely unrelated from the original topic and never comes back to it.

I agree on this point he often can be very rambling and take a very long time to get to the point and often it is very esoteric or not there at all.
 

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I'm fairly tired of watching the frog boil and seeing people like @Soren play dumb while western leaders accounce skin colors as terrorist groups openly on twitter.
 
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For me the question is: why do we need Peterson?
Right, wrong, converted, exonerated: why is he necessary?
I believe what I believe, and thought leaders who appear to be a liability or have murky backgrounds are not worth it?
 

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There is no hope arguing with you but I'll give it one last try.
It doesn't help your credibility when you resort to ridicule and ad hominem. It would be more of an argument if you did it with sincerity and respect.
By the way are you a white nationalist by any chance? Because you sure sound like one.
I take pride in my culture as an individual, but I tend to avoid organized white nationalists groups, as they are mostly co-opted.
First the idea that I am some JP cult follow/ cuck whatever is once again hilarious. Been a free thinker my whole life never let any individual dictate to me my beliefs, rational and reason is at the basis for all my views.
I know plenty of free thinkers that understand the significance of controlled opposition. Too bad you don't.
If he has stopped people from defining themselves on the basis of race well AMEN TO THAT because race is irrelevant as far as I am concerned culture on the other hand is VERY important and he has been a stalwart defender of western culture.
Race is irrelevant? Is that why the white man is being dispossessed of his culture, wealth, religion, land, and dignity while every other race is being promoted as inherently more virtuous?

You obviously have read very little of him and have just stuck with conspiracy theorist videos on youtube
"Conspiracy theorist" is so lame. Grow up. World history is full of real conspiracies.
. You've clearly never heard him talk about how blown away he is by western culture and everything it has given us which he has done on many occasions. I recall one time I heard him speak about the gift to the world the architects in a particular city were I think it was in Bruges. If you were a young Belgium hearing that I think that would make you a bit more nationalist, filled with pride with what your ancestors had accomplished but somehow this is all still a double bluff because he is a "gatekeeper" what another absurd throw away conspiracy label. I guess he is also secretly jewish and he sacrifices children to Molock with Bill Gates right?
Peterson is a bloody Marxist with a nationalist mask on. If you can't see that, that's your problem.
I did understand your point about hucksters I addressed it explicitly you just refuse to acknowledge and analyse it in any objective way because you are so trapped in your own conspiracy theory you cannot possibly even conceive of the possibility that you might be wrong.

More "conspiracy theory" dismissive lingo. Not gonna cut it. That might work on 12 year olds down at the corner store, but not here.
I pointed out to you that if he was a huckster he is the worst one of all time because even if I were to accept your premise that he is a only telling some of the truth in order to keep people controlled the things he is telling people are not beliefs that one can have if you want to control a populace and they are not beliefs that will be able to be removed from that populace at a later date, the very nature of the beliefs he is espousing make one more resilient to globalist tendencies. So even if he were a gatekeeper well he has already opened the gate, he has not kept it closed he has done the opposite.
You clearly don't understand how and why Jordan Peterson is a gatekeeper.

How old are you, by the way?

But I can see for you that is not the case because I get the feeling that you are a white nationalist and i HATE ascribing that label to someone because it is the most tired BS argument put out by the far left at every turn to discredit someone but you did specifically mention that he was stopping people from identifying with their race and you seem to be accusing him of being a Jewish shill so apologies if the assumption is wrong but that is what it points to with these references.
Even if I were a white nationalist, that makes no difference. Peterson remains a shill.
So you think that anything that is not a movement to ethnonationalism is of "the enemy" so for you he is a gatekeeper


Ffs so he's part of a grand zionist plot now is he?

And Roosh is a shill too?!
Rooh pushes the same anti-Western, pro-Russia nonsense as all the other alt media hacks. Roosh also recently claimed to have converted to Christianity, of the Russian persuasion, interestingly. I find it quite coincidental that a lot of these alt media personalities all seem to be using the same talking points and claiming to be converts to Russian Orthodoxy. Something stink.


View: https://twitter.com/CrunchMasterByz/status/973465835854589952


FYI, the Russian Orthodox Church happens to be headed by KGB agent "Patriarch Kirill".
Ok buddy, just to let you know the earth is not flat, the moon is not a secret alien base, the royal family are not lizards and the center of the earth is not hollow and filled with dinosaurs.
Oh, a strawman argument. How cute. Grow up.
 
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Jordan Peterson finally starting to figure it out, that Christ is Life.

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Anyone who seeks absolute truth will be drawn by the Father.

John 3:20-21
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

That's the benzo withdrwaw ?
 

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