trogers38
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@Lokzo @ecstatichamster @haidut
Greetings peaters. Ever since I had Covid I’ve had hypothyroid symptoms and increased serotonin symptoms. I’m a track sprinter also. I currently weigh 200lbs, I’m 6’6 in tall(1.98m) and my body fat percentage lies around 9%. I recently had a blood test last month and my test levels were at 576. That was when I was feeling a wee bit worse. If I tested them back when I was feeling good then we probably would’ve been in the 1000 ranges. Anyways I’ve found a POWERFUL combination. I’ve noticed that even the lower doses of cyproheptadine ruin my libido and are extremely sedating. I’ve noticed that there’s one thing in particular that stands out while I’m taking cyproheptadine. If I take a 250mg dose of Shilajit combined with a 750mg capsule of cordyceps CS-4 standardized for .2% cordycepin/adenosine then I get strong dopaminergic, adrenergic and anti-prolactin effects. This feeling is the closest I’ve felt to the “old me” when I was super androgenic and dopaminergic. This effect is compounded if I take the combo multiple times a day which I plan to take at least two of. I don’t get those effects if I take Shilajit(which is supposed to lower serotonin) by itself. Perhaps is it due to the lowering of prolactin by cordycepin? Here’s the study for that:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Cordyceps also has dopaminergic enhancing effects and possibly adrenergic. Mild DHT enhancing effects also. We know that cypro is a D2 antagonist. One of the 1000s of thoughts that I’ve had was that perhaps cypro sensitizes the D2 receptor due to its antagonizing effects so that when cordyceps is taken the dopaminergic effects are even stronger? Just a thought but could maybe not be the case.
I also do other things that help well too. Other things that help are:
- 2 tsp of black Maca with my coffee with lunch that has 1 TBSP of coconut oil, 1 TBSP of butter, and 2 TBSP of sugar. Strong dopamine enhancing effects.
- 2 eggs in the morning with a TBSP of coconut oil, mozzarella cheese and white button mushrooms, 2 thick slices of organic bacon, 4 sweet mandarin oranges, serving of blueberries and a glass of fruit juice. The mandarins have to be sweet and tart or else they won’t contain the mood boosting, dopamine boosting compounds(anecdotal).
- L Reuteri 6475 probiotic juice. Yes I ferment the fruit juice. I add 3 TBSP of inulin too it also. I ferment for 30 hours(might increase that).
- 30mg of zinc glycinate with 450mg of magnesium citrate at night and a tsp of glycine gives strong dopaminergic/anti prolactin effects that help me relax before bed. I take .5mg of cypro 2 hours before I take this.
- 1g of Fish Oil that has a 1.5:1 EPA DHA ratio twice daily. This amounts to 600mg EPA and 400mg DHA. This helps to augment the dopaminergic effects of the blueberries, mandarins and Uridine too. I know peaters are against Pufas but I notice really good effects with some omega 3’s.
- 100iu of vitamin E after breakfast
- 2 large Brazil nuts before bed
- Casein protein before bed
- eating animal protein and minimizing high tryptophan protein sources.
- Had good results with gelatin after high protein meals but it’s starting to ruin my mood after taking it for 2 weeks. Going to try bcaa after lunch and dinner instead of gelatin. Then retry lower amounts of gelatin after a while.
- BCAA with l phenylalanine and tyrosine on an empty stomach or after workouts gives very good effects. I’m not consistent with this one though.
- 250mg of Uridine Monophosphate with a Shilajit dose 3 days per week OR <125mg(thanks lokzo) of Uridine with a Shilajit dose 6 days a week.
- 1 capsule of nootropic depots microzinc every so often with my nightly Mg and glycine has very strong dopaminergic/anti serotonin effects. Perhaps because sucrosomial zinc happens to pass the blood brain barrier and increase sert more than zinc glycinate.
- I react good to starches like potatoes and sweet potatoes and these Synergize well with red meat.
- 1 raw carrot whole(washed thoroughly) after lunch or dinner
- avoiding insulin spikes
- doing track??
related stuff such as running, weight lifting, calisthenics.
So these were all things that help as well but of course I felt the most noticeable difference with the cordyceps/Shilajit/cypro combination. I don’t want to experiment with low dose bromocriptine because I’ve heard that it can cause heart valve issues but if I can stick with this protocol and I see positive changes then I won’t have to try bromo. Any suggestions or thoughts about this protocol?
I’m addition, Lokzo I’ve heard you say good things about Cistanche. I’ve tried Cistanche at night with a tsp of glycine, Zn and Mg and experienced serotonin syndrome like symptoms and had to take famotidine when it happened to me twice. This is with 150mg of a 50% echinacoside, 22% acetoside extract. Doesn’t happen when I take Cistanche extract by itself with the Zn and Mg and it’s less severe when I take it with a lower dose of glycine. Perhaps because glycine increases extra cellular levels of serotonin and because of Cistanche’s mao inhibitor effects it can exponentially increase the amount of whatever neurotransmitter you increase in the brain. Possibly it’s a stronger maoi than we thought. Thus perhaps taking it with cordyceps and Shilajit will yield a stronger dopaminergic effect. I’m going to experiment with that and report that back here if you guys are curious about that effect.
Last thing I’ll say I noticed was that the effects of cordyceps cs-4 become very apparent when I have cypro effects in my system. Otherwise cordyceps militaris gives me the effects I want possibly due to its tyrosine hydroxylase, DHT enhancing effects.
Lemme know what y’all think.
Thanks
Greetings peaters. Ever since I had Covid I’ve had hypothyroid symptoms and increased serotonin symptoms. I’m a track sprinter also. I currently weigh 200lbs, I’m 6’6 in tall(1.98m) and my body fat percentage lies around 9%. I recently had a blood test last month and my test levels were at 576. That was when I was feeling a wee bit worse. If I tested them back when I was feeling good then we probably would’ve been in the 1000 ranges. Anyways I’ve found a POWERFUL combination. I’ve noticed that even the lower doses of cyproheptadine ruin my libido and are extremely sedating. I’ve noticed that there’s one thing in particular that stands out while I’m taking cyproheptadine. If I take a 250mg dose of Shilajit combined with a 750mg capsule of cordyceps CS-4 standardized for .2% cordycepin/adenosine then I get strong dopaminergic, adrenergic and anti-prolactin effects. This feeling is the closest I’ve felt to the “old me” when I was super androgenic and dopaminergic. This effect is compounded if I take the combo multiple times a day which I plan to take at least two of. I don’t get those effects if I take Shilajit(which is supposed to lower serotonin) by itself. Perhaps is it due to the lowering of prolactin by cordycepin? Here’s the study for that:
Cordycepin Modulates Body Weight by Reducing Prolactin Via an Adenosine A1 Receptor - PubMed
Thus, it was proved that cordycepin modulates body weight by reducing prolactin release via an adenosine A1 receptor.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I also do other things that help well too. Other things that help are:
- 2 tsp of black Maca with my coffee with lunch that has 1 TBSP of coconut oil, 1 TBSP of butter, and 2 TBSP of sugar. Strong dopamine enhancing effects.
- 2 eggs in the morning with a TBSP of coconut oil, mozzarella cheese and white button mushrooms, 2 thick slices of organic bacon, 4 sweet mandarin oranges, serving of blueberries and a glass of fruit juice. The mandarins have to be sweet and tart or else they won’t contain the mood boosting, dopamine boosting compounds(anecdotal).
- L Reuteri 6475 probiotic juice. Yes I ferment the fruit juice. I add 3 TBSP of inulin too it also. I ferment for 30 hours(might increase that).
- 30mg of zinc glycinate with 450mg of magnesium citrate at night and a tsp of glycine gives strong dopaminergic/anti prolactin effects that help me relax before bed. I take .5mg of cypro 2 hours before I take this.
- 1g of Fish Oil that has a 1.5:1 EPA DHA ratio twice daily. This amounts to 600mg EPA and 400mg DHA. This helps to augment the dopaminergic effects of the blueberries, mandarins and Uridine too. I know peaters are against Pufas but I notice really good effects with some omega 3’s.
- 100iu of vitamin E after breakfast
- 2 large Brazil nuts before bed
- Casein protein before bed
- eating animal protein and minimizing high tryptophan protein sources.
- Had good results with gelatin after high protein meals but it’s starting to ruin my mood after taking it for 2 weeks. Going to try bcaa after lunch and dinner instead of gelatin. Then retry lower amounts of gelatin after a while.
- BCAA with l phenylalanine and tyrosine on an empty stomach or after workouts gives very good effects. I’m not consistent with this one though.
- 250mg of Uridine Monophosphate with a Shilajit dose 3 days per week OR <125mg(thanks lokzo) of Uridine with a Shilajit dose 6 days a week.
- 1 capsule of nootropic depots microzinc every so often with my nightly Mg and glycine has very strong dopaminergic/anti serotonin effects. Perhaps because sucrosomial zinc happens to pass the blood brain barrier and increase sert more than zinc glycinate.
- I react good to starches like potatoes and sweet potatoes and these Synergize well with red meat.
- 1 raw carrot whole(washed thoroughly) after lunch or dinner
- avoiding insulin spikes
- doing track??
related stuff such as running, weight lifting, calisthenics.So these were all things that help as well but of course I felt the most noticeable difference with the cordyceps/Shilajit/cypro combination. I don’t want to experiment with low dose bromocriptine because I’ve heard that it can cause heart valve issues but if I can stick with this protocol and I see positive changes then I won’t have to try bromo. Any suggestions or thoughts about this protocol?
I’m addition, Lokzo I’ve heard you say good things about Cistanche. I’ve tried Cistanche at night with a tsp of glycine, Zn and Mg and experienced serotonin syndrome like symptoms and had to take famotidine when it happened to me twice. This is with 150mg of a 50% echinacoside, 22% acetoside extract. Doesn’t happen when I take Cistanche extract by itself with the Zn and Mg and it’s less severe when I take it with a lower dose of glycine. Perhaps because glycine increases extra cellular levels of serotonin and because of Cistanche’s mao inhibitor effects it can exponentially increase the amount of whatever neurotransmitter you increase in the brain. Possibly it’s a stronger maoi than we thought. Thus perhaps taking it with cordyceps and Shilajit will yield a stronger dopaminergic effect. I’m going to experiment with that and report that back here if you guys are curious about that effect.
Last thing I’ll say I noticed was that the effects of cordyceps cs-4 become very apparent when I have cypro effects in my system. Otherwise cordyceps militaris gives me the effects I want possibly due to its tyrosine hydroxylase, DHT enhancing effects.
Lemme know what y’all think.
Thanks
