It's Official - Estrogen Suppresses / Lowers Metabolism

[haidut]

The study is actually quite pernicious because it suggests highly beneficial effects of estrogen, especially for men. However, hidden in the press release was this gem.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-an...pears-be-real-estrogen-helps-women-fend-virus

"...The reasons behind this are not yet clear, but the researchers note that it may have something to do with estrogen’s ability to reduce the cell’s metabolic rate, which could slow down the ability of the virus to replicate itself."

For those that are taking the study's veiled recommendations seriously, please keep in mind that estrogen activates retroviruses like HIV and other like EBV, JCV and herpes. It's definitely not something you want to increase or take exogenously.

 

[Agent207]

"As revealed in a study in the American Journal of Physiology – Lung Cellular and Molecular Physiology, it has everything to do with estrogen – specifically, men’s lack of it."

Men's lack of it??? Isn't nowadays reality the opposite actually? Men in special, with estrogen levels way higher and far from ideal? Seems like a joke



I thought SERMs reduced estrogen activity, not increased it. I.e. tamoxifen is widely used in bodybuilding community as an estrogen antagonist, preventing estrogen from exerting its normal effect. And the article says:

"Cell receptors that are activated by estrogen can also be stimulated by SERMs, which produce estrogen-like effects."

 

[haidut]

Very good points. This study probably accidentally revealed that the so-called anti-setrogenic SERM drugs are quite pro-estrogen So, not it's not a secret anymore.
This explains why bodybuilders have so many liver problems. Estrogenic SERM's mess up their liver and not so much the synthetic androgens they inject, even though some of those are dangerous as well.
Ray has written an entire article about this and the DES substance, so check it out on his website for more info.

 

[Agent207]

Very good points. This study probably accidentally revealed that the so-called anti-setrogenic SERM drugs are quite pro-estrogen:) So, not it's not a secret anymore.
This explains why bodybuilders have so many liver problems. Estrogenic SERM's mess up their liver and not so much the synthetic androgens they inject, even though some of those are dangerous as well.
Ray has written an entire article about this and the DES substance, so check it out on his website for more info.

Are you so sure SERMs are estrogenic rather than antiestrogenic? Isn't it supposed to be an estrogen receptor blocker?

 

[haidut]

Are you so sure SERMs are estrogenic rather than antiestrogenic? Isn't it supposed to be an estrogen receptor blocker?

If you read Peat's article on them you will see what I mean. All of the so-called SERMs are actually modified estrogens and while they may be anti-estrogenic in some tissues they are overall quite estrogenic. Tamoxifen causes liver cancer and Clomid has killed people with MS since both drugs are high estrogenic in the liver and brain respectively. Search the forum and you will find info.

 

[youngandold]

SERMs have estrogenic activity in some tissues and antiestrogenic in other.
So it's difficult to know which lowered virus replication.
They should have used plain estrogens like estradiol.

The study just mentions but doesn't really prove that estrogen lowers metabolism.
Maybe a reference within the study (another study) actually proves estrogen lowering metabolism.
If so this would have been a better post.

 

[Dobster]

That's some scary stuff. Thanks for the info.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Next up in the health world: Estrogen supplements for men and boys. Get your's today!

 

[Such_Saturation]

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