Isn't the waning protection from the mRNA vaccines good news, showing that the harmful vax effects aren't permanent?

[863127]

The Japanese study didn’t look for spike proteins. The spike protein generated by vaccine mRNA is different than the spike protein on the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The vaccine spike protein is perfusion stabilized meaning than it can’t bind to the ACE2 receptor. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein binding to ACE2 is the cause of inflammation and COVID disease symptoms.

Biodistribution and Spike Protein Safety of mRNA Vaccines: An Update

It’s easy to misinterpret science, and it takes more effort to understand the true narrative.

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Thanks for posting this. Where did you learn about this? What's the best source you've found about it?

 

[Mito]

Thanks for posting this. Where did you learn about this? What's the best source you've found about it?

These are good sources

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[863127]

These are good sources

Google Scholar

Google Scholar provides a simple way to broadly search for scholarly literature. Search across a wide variety of disciplines and sources: articles, theses, books, abstracts and court opinions.

scholar.google.com

PubMed

PubMed® comprises more than 36 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Oh okay. (I meant that you're the first person I've seen mention prefusion stabilization making binding to ACE2 apparently irrelevant for the modified spike protein from the vaccines, and so I thought maybe you've been doing more detailed research about the prefusion stabilization that you could share if someone says they're interested.)

 

[BearWithMe]

These are good sources

Google Scholar

Google Scholar provides a simple way to broadly search for scholarly literature. Search across a wide variety of disciplines and sources: articles, theses, books, abstracts and court opinions.

scholar.google.com

PubMed

PubMed® comprises more than 36 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Would you give us some specific links?

 

[Orome]

Relax. I was asking a question to be discussed, not coming to a conclusion. A reason to think this is because if you need booster shots of the same vaccine then maybe your cells aren't producing the spike protein forever on one dose. It is a hopeful speculation.

Edit: I would and am avoiding the vaccine at all costs, but those of us in Western countries are under immense pressure to get it. Eventually many people including me may not be able to work without getting one. If the effects wane (the "good" and the bad), then I am more hopeful about my situation and many others' who are in the same situation.

Don't even think about what effects it could have on you and if effects could wane or not.
Just resist and don't give in.
Stay strong and confident.

We need to protect freedom - always and at any cost (but peacefully!)
And we need you.
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PS.: A high metabolic rate helps with all of the above.

 

[Mito]

Would you give us some specific links?

“…the spike protein in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is not quite the same as the wild-type spike protein found on the virus. This protein has been prefusion stabilized which means it lacks the ability to change conformation into its postfusion state (via a double proline substitution). This change is thought to significantly enhance the ability of the spike protein to elicit neutralizing antibodies from the immune system, but it also has another functional consequence: the spike protein has drastically less ability to cause syncytium formation…[that may] play a direct role in the disease process of COVID-19.”

Spike Protein Circulating in the Vaccinated: What does it mean? — Deplatform Disease

A recent paper has found spike protein antigens in the blood of people who received the mRNA-1273 vaccine from Moderna, and this is naturally being spun to mean the vaccines are dangerous. But actually there are several points about this paper that are very reassuring. Firstly, the reason some are

www.deplatformdisease.com

“That’s because the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a shape-shifter. To fuse its viral membrane with the host cell membrane it substantially changes its shape from an unstable pre-fusion state to a stable post-fusion state. While previously working on a vaccine for MERS, a disease caused by another coronavirus, McLellan and others discovered that by adding two proline molecules to the spike protein, they could lock it into its pre-fusion state, triggering a more effective immune response and preventing cell entry. The same harmless mutation, called 2P, as in two proline molecules, is used in the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

During a SARS-CoV-2 infection, the NIAID told us, the virus spike proteins can latch onto human cells, allowing the virus to infect them. With the live virus, the protein “attaches to receptors on the surface of cells and fuses the viral membrane with the host-cell membrane,” McLellan said.

However, vaccine-generated spike proteins can’t do that fusion because they are locked in the pre-fusion shape.”

COVID-19 Vaccine-Generated Spike Protein is Safe, Contrary to Viral Claims - FactCheck.org

There is no evidence to indicate that the spike proteins generated by human cells following vaccination are a toxin or that they circulate in the body and damage tissues, contrary to what a Canadian virus immunologist recently claimed.

www.factcheck.org

 

[GorillaHead]

I think this is something to be considered.

How would that even happen you guys are speculating. Any credibility to any of this ?

 

[GorillaHead]

“…the spike protein in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is not quite the same as the wild-type spike protein found on the virus. This protein has been prefusion stabilized which means it lacks the ability to change conformation into its postfusion state (via a double proline substitution). This change is thought to significantly enhance the ability of the spike protein to elicit neutralizing antibodies from the immune system, but it also has another functional consequence: the spike protein has drastically less ability to cause syncytium formation…[that may] play a direct role in the disease process of COVID-19.”


“That’s because the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a shape-shifter. To fuse its viral membrane with the host cell membrane it substantially changes its shape from an unstable pre-fusion state to a stable post-fusion state. While previously working on a vaccine for MERS, a disease caused by another coronavirus, McLellan and others discovered that by adding two proline molecules to the spike protein, they could lock it into its pre-fusion state, triggering a more effective immune response and preventing cell entry. The same harmless mutation, called 2P, as in two proline molecules, is used in the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

During a SARS-CoV-2 infection, the NIAID told us, the virus spike proteins can latch onto human cells, allowing the virus to infect them. With the live virus, the protein “attaches to receptors on the surface of cells and fuses the viral membrane with the host-cell membrane,” McLellan said.

However, vaccine-generated spike proteins can’t do that fusion because they are locked in the pre-fusion shape.”

COVID-19 Vaccine-Generated Spike Protein is Safe, Contrary to Viral Claims - FactCheck.org

There is no evidence to indicate that the spike proteins generated by human cells following vaccination are a toxin or that they circulate in the body and damage tissues, contrary to what a Canadian virus immunologist recently claimed.

www.factcheck.org

U probably are one of the few on this forums using credibility and science. The rest are on some conspiracy tangent. I appreciate ur research. Thanks

 

[PolishSun]

U probably are one of the few on this forums using credibility and science. The rest are on some conspiracy tangent. I appreciate ur research. Thanks

One more would be Ray Peat, but he is not a member of this forum.

 

[GorillaHead]

One more would be Ray Peat, but he is not a member of this forum.

Definitely agree.

 

[BearWithMe]

“…the spike protein in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is not quite the same as the wild-type spike protein found on the virus. This protein has been prefusion stabilized which means it lacks the ability to change conformation into its postfusion state (via a double proline substitution). This change is thought to significantly enhance the ability of the spike protein to elicit neutralizing antibodies from the immune system, but it also has another functional consequence: the spike protein has drastically less ability to cause syncytium formation…[that may] play a direct role in the disease process of COVID-19.”


“That’s because the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a shape-shifter. To fuse its viral membrane with the host cell membrane it substantially changes its shape from an unstable pre-fusion state to a stable post-fusion state. While previously working on a vaccine for MERS, a disease caused by another coronavirus, McLellan and others discovered that by adding two proline molecules to the spike protein, they could lock it into its pre-fusion state, triggering a more effective immune response and preventing cell entry. The same harmless mutation, called 2P, as in two proline molecules, is used in the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

During a SARS-CoV-2 infection, the NIAID told us, the virus spike proteins can latch onto human cells, allowing the virus to infect them. With the live virus, the protein “attaches to receptors on the surface of cells and fuses the viral membrane with the host-cell membrane,” McLellan said.

However, vaccine-generated spike proteins can’t do that fusion because they are locked in the pre-fusion shape.”

COVID-19 Vaccine-Generated Spike Protein is Safe, Contrary to Viral Claims - FactCheck.org

There is no evidence to indicate that the spike proteins generated by human cells following vaccination are a toxin or that they circulate in the body and damage tissues, contrary to what a Canadian virus immunologist recently claimed.

www.factcheck.org

Very interesting, thank you!