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Oh great we agree that capitalism includes imperial slaughter of indigenous native Americans and other people!
No I would say that is nature itself and nothing to do with one economic form or political form over another. What you are talking about is the nature of being an animal which we are. No matter who landed on America's shores first, they would have taken over the continent from the stone age indians. The weak are taken over by the strong as is nature itself dictates this.

Do you think any group of modern people from any nation on earth would have landed in America and left the vast continent alone to a group of stone age people who in thousands of years of being left alone to develop did not even invent the wheel or a written form of writing or even basic mathematics? They had no nation or country and did not even have those concepts. They were a stone age people, literally stagnant for thousands of years who were only protected by nature by the oceans.
 

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No I would say that is nature itself and nothing to do with one economic form or political form over another. What you are talking about is the nature of being an animal which we are. No matter who landed on America's shores first, they would have taken over the continent from the stone age indians. The weak are taken over by the strong as is nature itself dictates this.

Do you think any group of modern people from any nation on earth would have landed in America and left the vast continent alone to a group of stone age people who in thousands of years of being left alone to develop did not even invent the wheel or a written form of writing or even basic mathematics?

I can think of many nations who would have treated the stone age indians much worse.
I don’t have to play hypothetical mind games to justify slaughter but I can see you do
 

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That's the history of any imperialistic power, including the USSR.

I thought you said you weren't going to bother with me anymore.
Sounds like you haven’t read anything about Stalin not invading sovereign korea after ww2 and leaving it alone until Truman had to help his public image and start and win a war; also you’ve never read anything about the history of Nicaragua, Guatemala, Yugoslavia, Chile, just to name a few.
 

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Extreme state corporatism is the manifestation of the supremacy of capital over the worker, a far right fascistic capitalist exploitative ideology that extrapolates value via the time and labor of a worker. It is in direct opposition to Marxism.

Right. Marxism far left-wing arm of the left, fascism far right-wing arm of the left. That's why the Nazis and communists hated each other, family squabble. Corporatism is socialism and antithetical to right-wing ideals.
 

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Sounds like you haven’t read anything about Stalin not invading sovereign korea after ww2 and leaving it alone until Truman had to help his public image and start and win a war; also you’ve never read anything about the history of Nicaragua, Guatemala, Yugoslavia, Chile, just to name a few.

Why would Stalin want to invade Korea when China had already turned the north communist?

Now tell us about the USSR's eastern European and Asian satellite states. Putin says he longs for the days of the former empire. They were quite glad to be free of soviet control when the USSR collapsed.
 

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Why would Stalin want to invade Korea when China had already turned the north communist?

Now tell us about the USSR's eastern European and Asian satellite states. Putin says he longs for the days of the former empire. They were quite glad to be free of soviet control when the USSR collapsed.
That’s funny because Yugoslavia was sovereign, productive and an intellectual center until communism ended in 1980. Since then fertility rates have been dropping and there has been a progressive brain drain to other Western European countries. It’s exactly why the Croatian president immediately said he would pull out of Ukraine if there is a conflict. Hope you enjoy your UN/NATO/Nazi “libertarian” saviors who have absolutely no feeling for human collateral. And yea if I was Stalin I would send Fauci et al to the gulag but I wouldn’t slaughter “stone age Indians”.
 

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Hope you enjoy your UN/NATO/Nazi “libertarian” saviors who have absolutely no feeling for human collateral. And yea if I was Stalin I would send Fauci et al to the gulag but I wouldn’t slaughter “stone age Indians”.

Not understanding your point in bolded.

The indians were also slaughtering colonialists and aligning with imperial Britain and France to wage war against them. The stronger side won. That's the history of humanity.
 

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I am sure that man have certain biological features and you can distinguish males easily from chicken, elephants or women.
 

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Not understanding your point in bolded.

The indians were also slaughtering colonialists and aligning with imperial Britain and France to wage war against them. The stronger side won. That's the history of humanity.
With what their rocks and buffalo? Get real the English were handing out small pox blankets
 

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The indians had guns through trade and supply by the British and French armies..
They didn’t have cannons or the stock to match, what’s a gun without gun powder when you’re being annihilated with germ warfare. While we are on the topic you claim Stalin is murderer but don’t reply to my posts regarding MacArthur slaughtering Korean children in the 50s and the Us dropping anthrax from planes.
 

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They didn’t have cannons or the stock to match, what’s a gun without gun powder when you’re being annihilated with germ warfare. While we are on the topic you claim Stalin is murderer but don’t reply to my posts regarding MacArthur slaughtering Korean children in the 50s and the Us dropping anthrax from planes.

I already told you, all empires do that stuff.
 
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No I would say that is nature itself and nothing to do with one economic form or political form over another. What you are talking about is the nature of being an animal which we are. No matter who landed on America's shores first, they would have taken over the continent from the stone age indians. The weak are taken over by the strong as is nature itself dictates this.

Do you think any group of modern people from any nation on earth would have landed in America and left the vast continent alone to a group of stone age people who in thousands of years of being left alone to develop did not even invent the wheel or a written form of writing or even basic mathematics? They had no nation or country and did not even have those concepts. They were a stone age people, literally stagnant for thousands of years who were only protected by nature by the oceans.
This thread began about a transgender who committed a crime before reaching the age of 18, and before being trans. It turned into a debate about left vs right. Now it's about the settlers vs the indians.

If it makes you feel better, our current benevolent rulers also have a right to do whatever they want with the tamed, sickened, numbed masses.
 

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Right. Marxism far left-wing arm of the left, fascism far right-wing arm of the left. That's why the Nazis and communists hated each other, family squabble. Corporatism is socialism and antithetical to right-wing ideals.
There is worker subsidised big industry where workers own utilities and means of production (far left) or straight up original fascism (the corporate state and far right). Just to clear up your confusion.
 

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I already told you, all empires do that stuff.
Yes, empires create neoliberal puppet states by breaking up sovereign often times truly socialist and communist republics and then use their puppet states as piggy banks for the empire, all while slaughtering ethnic groups, decimating cultures and annihilating any historical context that people can learn and study from.
 
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