Is There A Way To Safely Reduce Male Libido?

[michael94]

niacin small amounts
taro/sweet potatoes sounds interesting, I think wild yam provides precursor for testosterone and progesterone

 

[Vinero]

I wonder if lowered estrogen or what else that could be

Lowering estrogen decreases my libido. Progesterone has similar effects in high doses as androsterone. DHEA however increases my libido.

 

[revenant]

Peppermint tea. Drink a few liters per day and your libido will be gone.

 

[Vinero]

Peppermint tea. Drink a few liters per day and your libido will be gone.

What is the mechanism?

 

[revenant]

What is the mechanism?

Reduction in testosterone levels most likely. It's also used by women to reduce unwanted facial hair.

Effects of peppermint teas on plasma testosterone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and luteinizing hormone levels and testicular tissue in rats.

OBJECTIVES:
To justify the effects of Mentha piperita labiatae and Mentha spicata labiatae herbal teas on plasma total testosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone levels and testicular histologic features. We performed this study because of major complaints in our area from men about the adverse effects of these herbs on male reproductive function.

METHODS:
The experimental study included 48 male Wistar albino rats (body weight 200 to 250 g). The rats were randomized into four groups of 12 rats each. The control group was given commercial drinking water, and the experimental groups were given 20 g/L M. piperita tea, 20 g/L M. spicata tea, or 40 g/L M. spicata tea.

RESULTS:
The follicle-stimulating hormone and luteinizing hormone levels had increased and total testosterone levels had decreased in the experimental groups compared with the control group; the differences were statistically significant. Also, the Johnsen testicular biopsy scores were significantly different statistically between the experimental groups and the control group. Although the mean seminiferous tubular diameter of the experimental groups was relatively greater than in the control group, the difference was not statistically significant. The only effects of M. piperita on testicular tissue was segmental maturation arrest in the seminiferous tubules; however, the effects of M. spicata extended from maturation arrest to diffuse germ cell aplasia in relation to the dose.

CONCLUSIONS:
Despite the beneficial effects of M. piperita and M. spicata in digestion, we should also be aware of the toxic effects when the herbs are not used in the recommended fashion or at the recommended dose.


Effects of peppermint teas on plasma testosterone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and luteinizing hormone levels and testicular tissue in rats. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[General Orange]

Androsterone really lowers my libido.

How did you /hoe heb je -Androsterone- ge-reduced @Vinero ?

 

[General Orange]

My bad, Androsterone /hoe helpt dat /how does that work lowering libido?

 

[General Orange]

many men and women think horny is normal way of feeling the LIBIDO. but this is wrong! estrogen high is what give LIBODO horniness,

 

[General Orange]

Libido is : self-confidence with ability to entrepreneur sex dating... Just being Horney is not good form of libido

 

[Logan-]

I think the need to masturbate might be driven primarily by nitric oxide as opposed to testosterone. I've completely lost my desire to masturbate for quite a while now after I started taking methylene blue.

 

[Steene]

At what dosage?

 

[Aymen]

Many times i tried caffeine in high doses ( 800 mg) , i couldn't sleep at night ( because i had annoying libido that i can't control myself ) , maybe it's because of Progesterone ?
I use 200-400mg of caffeine everyday , caffeine lowers estrogen and so also my libido is higher when i use caffeine ( and i don't get the jittery effects ) .
Excess Estrogen can cause horniness , but i think you can still horney if you have high T and high Estrogen.
High libido is a sign of good metabolism ?
T , DHEA and DHT are needed for a good libido in my opinion.
We should not forget the Neurotranasmitters .
I used to eat Anti-Aromatase foods and my libido sometimes it stays high and sometimes normal .
@General Orange Basically , i crave sex only not love , but hey i,m single because i didn't find a girl who has a personality that i like.

However if you want to lower your libido , then sleep day after day ( that worked for me ) , but it's not a good think .

 

[Lokzo]

Rhodiola, Kiwi fruit, Rehmannia, Vitex, Bupleurum.

 

[Logan-]

At what dosage?

@lampofred

 

[Logan-]

Regarding androsterone:

Yes, I also get lower libido with only 1 or 2 mg a day, but it is something that I appreciate as I am practising NoFap. I read on this forum that a raging libido and an uncontrollable urge to fap is a sign of high oestrogen, so I see this as a good sign.

Androsterone is honestly amazing. I wanted to take a day off pansterone and androsterone yesterday, and in the afternoon I felt like ***t: very depressed and lethargic. I took 1 mg of androsterone and almost immediately felt much better.

I haven't completely lost my libido, that would be worrying. When it is time to get aroused, my erections are very good but other than that, thoughts of sex don't really bother me much anymore. They sometimes come and go but it's more like a "hmm that's an interesting thought" rather than "holy ***t I really want to rub one out so I can concentrate on other things again." Basically a huge increase in control of the libido rather than a loss of libido per se.

If I watch porn, I get hard, but I am much better able to control myself and not fap - whereas before androsterone, watching porn was basically a guaranteed fap. I feel like I have this feeling that masturbation isn't quite as satisfying, and my thoughts are directed more towards real women than towards pixels.

I am also much less likely to watch porn now that I am on androsterone: I started my androsterone use on Feb 9, and since then porn has only been watched on 4 days, which is quite good in my opinion. It is to be noted however that those 4 days were all very unproductive as many hours were wasted since I did not let myself get a release. I really ought to cut it out completely!

I don't know if I'm imagining things, but my sense of smell might have increased? This might sound creepy... but I notice the smell of women more than I used to, and when I am near a woman who has a pleasant smell, I get very slightly aroused (not hard, but increased blood flow). I get the same effect sometimes when an attractive girl talks to me.

I also used to have a problem with nocturnal emissions before androsterone. Even if I practised NoFap, the constant raging libido would get me to have wet dreams after only a few days of abstination. After a wet dream, my libido would get even higher ("chaser effect" in NoFap terms) making the practice increasingly more difficult.

Since my androsterone use, only a single nocturnal emission has occurred, a few days ago. I suspect that this wouldn't have happened at all had I not had those 4 unproductive porn binging days.

Basically, I love androsterone. It makes me feel in control.

 

[Cirion]

many men and women think horny is normal way of feeling the LIBIDO. but this is wrong! estrogen high is what give LIBODO horniness,

I am not sure that's true, or at least not quite true. In my experience there are two types of libido

- A "Compulsion" to have sex, to get a "high" but doesn't feel good once you scratch the itch so to speak and generally accompanied by less love and more selfish desire. This compulsion typically arises as a result of low Dopamine and the body craving a "fix" of dopamine.

- A true strong "Desire" to have sex, in my experience sometimes even stronger than the first scenario, BUT which is also accompanied by a more friendly, "Loving" feeling if that makes sense? Basically not only is the desire to have sex higher, but your ability and desire to actually connect with another human is also strong. This is the state of being that we as men are meant to be in. This state of being only happens when you have a lot of dopamine.

The reason why there are so many men that are bad with women is not because of so many ridiculous excuses we try to come up with, rather its nothing more (or less) than a lack of a "healthy" desire for the opposite gender. There is nothing wrong with healthy desire, in fact we need it to properly want to date the other gender.

With all that said, a healthy man will generally feel less "compulsion" to "get off" at least by themselves so I could see how it could reduce the desire to "relapse" when one is doing nofap.

 

[Logan-]

My T is normally around 900. I am working on lowering estrogen. Androsterone in the past really tanked my libido and ruined my erections.

I seem to do best with 5mg or so of DHEA (usually orally) and 100mg of pregnenolone (Life Extension, orally), and 5mg - 10mg of progesterone topically. This keeps libido high, erections really good, and it seems to control estrogen although it’s difficult to tell.

Androsterone? No way.

 

[Pulstar]

- A "Compulsion" to have sex, to get a "high" but doesn't feel good once you scratch the itch so to speak and generally accompanied by less love and more selfish desire. This compulsion typically arises as a result of low Dopamine and the body craving a "fix" of dopamine.

I think this high compulsion might also be also related to high histamine and high cortisol (low sugar?). So overall, a high stress state brings a lot of compulsions and lack of control.

 

[Cirion]

I think this high compulsion might also be also related to high histamine and high cortisol (low sugar?). So overall, a high stress state brings a lot of compulsions and lack of control.

Yeah I mean high estrogen - high serotonin - low dopamine - high stress - ETC... it's all part of the same "anti-metabolic axis" so to speak. Yeah high stressed people tend to be much more prone to addictions in general, it is the body trying to self-medicate via dopamine highs wherever it can get them, drugs... sex... alcohol... video games... TV... etc...

I have noticed for myself that my desire for dopamine highs gradually diminish as I get healthier. Once you are healthy even the "small things in life" give you the appropriate dopamine increase. Eventually even my desire to watch TV or play video games goes away. Currently I still struggle in this area, but I have long since beaten my alcohol addiction which I had while in college when my stress was VERY high chronically.

 

[Logan-]

Tank your estrogen with an AI. I‘m serious, it worked for me. I didn’t intend for the AI to accomplish this, but it did

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