Is There A Way To Safely Reduce Male Libido?

[Mossy]

Is there a way to reduce a man’s libido without affecting his general well-being?

Yes. Watch a Bette Midler movie; though the well-being will take a temporary hit.

 

[aquila2009]

yup i agree, just crash estrogen

I’ve experienced this. I’m much more in control of everything

 

[OccamzRazer]

Sexual transmutation exercises!

Also large doses of progesterone lower it for me.

 

[Logan-]

I would say it takes a very long time to completely detox from excess estrogen...6+ months for me. Also, if you have any gut dysbiosys it will raise your estrogen.

I think it might be more productive to try to channel that drive/energy into something like weight training or sprint training on a daily basis or at least 5 days a week. That might be over training for most people but it may not be for you and may deplete your energy enough to decrease your sex drive.

The other thing is that you need to cut out all porn and visual social media including Instagram, YouTube, etc. Visual imagery is a consistent trigger that keeps reinforcing your drive. Try "fasting" from all visual sexual imagery.

Just my 2 cents.

Took small dose of antibiotics, and definetly feel some relieve. I have mental peace now for first time in days. Also feel more motivated to do stuff.

Just take androsterone. Completely annihilates libido.

@PeatBull
Doxycycline has been found to make men more resilient to women’s beauty and sexuality. I recently took it and that happened to me. The study has been posted on the forum plus doxy will make your gut like steel.

How to stop the horny?

I cant focus or achieve anything, only thinking but dem ***** all day long. Haidut said thats maybe excess estrogen, but i do progest-e and asprin. The only thing worked for me was the vitamin a, but it gave me a weird chest and throat pain. Intense and short. Anyone managed to control this power?

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[Logan-]

From:Cupid's Poisoned Arrow


***“On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.”
A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. - PubMed - NCBI


***Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
Ejaculation and Testosterone Levels: Masturbation Lowers T?


***Studies have shown if you masturbate more than twice in a day, there becomes a decline in androgen receptors in your brain. These are what allows your body to use testosterone by binding to it – with less of these, the less your body can use and lower your active testosterone levels will be. [7]

And to make matters worse it’s been seen to make estrogen levels increase. [8] While your androgen receptors are on the decline, estrogen receptors are on the rise, meaning they’re binding to more of the female hormone in your body and increasing your risk of lower testosterone.

[7] Romano-Torres M, Phillips-Farfan BV, Chavira R, Rodriguez-Manzo G, Fernandez-Guasti A. Relationship between sexual satiety and brain androgen receptors. Neuroendocrinology. 2007;85:16–26.
[8] Phillips-Farfan BV, Lemus AE, Fernandez-Guasti A. Increased estrogen receptor alpha immunoreactivity in the forebrain of sexually satiated rats. Horm. Behav. 2007;51:328–334.
Does Masturbating Lower Testosterone? - TestoFuel Blog


***Today, there is also a growing number of evidence that links testosterone levels with the number of times you ejaculate in a single day. This is evidenced by changes observed in your number of androgen receptors or receptors that allow you to utilize testosterone throughout your body. Hence with lower androgen receptors, you will essentially also have lower active testosterone levels.

According to a study conducted by the Universidad Veracruzana in Mexico, one to two ejaculations for a short period of time can increase androgen receptor activity. However, when ejaculations are done four or more times during a short period of time, there is a significant reduction in androgen activity. Specifically, it was observed that androgen receptors returned to its baseline level after the fourth ejaculation. (study)

This finding seems to be supported by another study done by the Centro de Investigación y Estudios Avanzados and Instituto Nacional de Ciencias Médicas y Nutrición 'Salvador Zubirán' in Mexico. Their experiment revealed that multiple ejaculations resulted in a significant decline in androgen receptors. (study)

At the same time, a study conducted by CINVESTAV in Mexico found that while androgen receptors are decreased after multiple ejaculations, there is also a significant increase in estrogen receptors. (study)
Is There a Link Between Masturbation and Testosterone?


***Dopamine is a major factor. Drugs and activities whichc change the regulation of dopamine will alter libido. Dopamine agonists (pramiprexole), dopamine reuptake inhibitors (wellbutrin, cocaine, methamphetamine) will all cause increases in reward seeking behavior including but not limited to libido. Dopamine blockers such as antipsychotics are often considered libido killers.

Dopamine is counter-regulated by prolactin which is released after male ejaculation, so increases in prolactin cause dopamine and libido to drastically fall off. The other name for dopamine is prolactin inhibiting hormone, or PIH. Males who are able to ejaculate multiple times in a row with no refractory period tend to have a reduced production of or response to prolactin.

Testosterone is a huge factor in libido for men and women. Testosterone acts as a neuromodulator and potentiates dopamineric activation of the sex drive.
ELI5: What causes libido, and why does it vary so much between people? : explainlikeimfive


***It not only helps regulate testosterone production in men, but also helps to regulate immune functions, salt and water balances, metabolic functions, endocrine system, brain and behavior, and growth and development. Prolactin is what tells your body that it’s satisfied after sex, and lets the arousal mechanisms (aka dopamine) know they can settle down for a bit.
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Because higher levels of prolactin are found in fathers of young children and in expectant fathers, as compared to un-mated males, according to a large-scale study in the Phillipines, behavioral endocrinologists have theorized that a modest rise in prolactin helps prepare men for the task of fatherhood. It quiets the sex drive, they figure, and along with oxytocin—with its weird reputation for being both the “cuddle” hormone as well as a byproduct of stress—helps dads of young children bond to and empathize with their offspring.
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Elevated levels prolactin in the blood signals the gonads to make less testosterone (hypogonadism).
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Sometimes levels also go up during periods of stress, even briefly.
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It can be helpful to look at prolactin levels next to testosterone levels, because ongoing high prolactin secretion will signal the body to lower testosterone production.
Prolactinemia | Causes of Male Infertility


this is what 'YOU' can achieve after 'X' amount of days!

• 5 minutes - heart rate returns to normal.
  
  
• 2-3 days - guilt and shame seems to decrease.
  
  
• 7 days - brain fog lifts.
  
  
• 14 days - prolactin starts to drop.
  
  
• 14 - 21 days - due to drop in prolactin, dopamine sensitivity increases, you can start to enjoy the little things in life again, no longer emotionally numb, energy levels start to increase big time, confidence also increases.
  
  
• 30 days - cravings and flashbacks noticeably reduce.
  
  
• 30-60 days - PIED symptoms disappear or improve. Erections become rock solid, unless you're PIED symptoms are severe. Confidence keeps rising
  
  
• 42 days - ΔFosB (DeltaFosB) that has accumulated around the nucleus accumbens starts to remove itself. This makes it possible for the neurons in the porn-addicted pathways to now start to slowly break up over time without use.
  
  
• 90 days - considered a full reboot for most people, however people with severe PIED will need longer. Confidence still rising
  
  
• 120 - 150 days - symptoms of severe PIED disappear or improve.

this is what 'YOU' can achieve after 'X' amount of days! : NoFap

Injaculation (Retrograde Ejeculation) As A NoFap Substitute

Maybe you didn’t read too much about it’s effects on addiction and dopamine. I’d like to try it soon, BTW I don't need to read more .. if you need to take a drug so you can keep on ejaculating that is only going to make more problems in the long run.

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[Nomane Euger]

@Logan- hi,low to moderate amount of proteins specifically red meat,not working out hard,eating mostly certains ripes fruits,and acessory some grass fed grass finished young lamb/veal liver will make reliably make you asexual.ejaculation in it self does not necessary lower androgen associated characteristics,even beyond 4,on the contrary from my experience it can be associated with a higher degree of characteristics associated to androgens such as deeper voice,calmer,more confident...etc,in ideal scenario,ejaculation make you feel calmer,slower,still feeling good

 

[Logan-]

What's interesting about it's effects is that it feels like it lowers prolactin as effectively as something like caber or meter with regards to its effects on libido but without making me feel as mentally stimulated or spaced out, which is a good thing.

Basically feels like getting the benefits of drugs like Cabergoline and Selegiline but much more sustainable and safe (afaik). It's effects on cognition and verbal fluency definitely make it feel like it could/should be a staple 'antiaging' nootropic.

I know these are from large doses and probably don't apply to much smaller doses, but I'll add that since starting Piracetam, even if I ejaculate several times, I don't get anything like the POIS/high prl type symptoms I normally would without it. There is no 'brain fog' or loss of sharpness, drive, or an increase in fatigue or anxiety the following day which is what led me to believe that it's effects were probably anti-prolactin.

Another thing I've noticed since starting, and have read similar anecdotes, are random flashbacks to previously forgotten memories from childhood.

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Piracetam is a great substance and has so many uses ,yet its still not fully understood how it works . Let us collect some studies to paint a better picture on what it does. @Hans @Razvan @Charger @Ismail Here are some studies from my notes: : Here's a very interesting study concerning...

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[Matestube]

Is there a way to reduce a man’s libido without affecting his general well-being?

I know Ray said that high estrogen causes "insatiable sexual interest"; but let's assume the man in question doesn't have high estrogen, and is generally healthy.

30mg progesterone powder orally.

 

[Logan-]

Regarding POIS

Gbolduev: "Trust me guys I tried every thing. I did B3 when this forum did not even exist. I realized that quercetin worked by increasing copper that is why prostaglandin D2 and E2 got controlled."

Gbolduev: "Basically the problem of POIS is as electrical as chemical. I agree than there are many reasons why the cortisol gets effected , but in 90% cases , it is the problem with copper."

Gbolduev: For people who are deficient in copper , POIS will be gone in 1 week/ It will lower your cortisol levels, your thyroid will start working, your dopamine serotonin ratio wil be fixed"

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[Logan-]

Ejaculatory Exhaustion

I've been dealing with this for about 4-5 years now, with gradual onset. If I ejaculate at all, whether it's once every two weeks, or once a day for 3 days, I am totally brain dead and exhausted. I can't think, can barely wake up in the morning, my cognitive function gets very low, all I want to...

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