Is There A Common Cause For Chronic Gut Issues?

[Braveheart]

I won't take probiotics now, when there is overgrowth. Not the right time. First regulation of excess bacteria.

I always look forward to your input...your old comments on A and D were very helpful....thanks

 

[amethyst]

My personal take is that so many are dealing with chronic gut issues due to genetically modified foods in the marketplace. Plus all the crops being spraying with glyphosate as a pesticide. It's sick what tptb are doing to our food supply. Even with choosing organic food, you have to be concerned with cross contamination. I've mentioned this ad naseum on the forum, but organic sulfur crystals really helped my gut issues.

 

[Makrosky]

My personal take is that so many are dealing with chronic gut issues due to genetically modified foods in the marketplace. Plus all the crops being spraying with glyphosate as a pesticide. It's sick what tptb are doing to our food supply. Even with choosing organic food, you have to be concerned with cross contamination. I've mentioned this ad naseum on the forum, but organic sulfur crystals really helped my gut issues.

But I think MSM can mobilize mercury and stuff...

 

[amethyst]

But I think MSM can mobilize mercury and stuff...

Yes it can. You have to be careful with using sulfur if someone has mercury fillings.

 

[DaveFoster]

Constipation - low thyroid (intestine is not being stimulated properly.)
Diarrhea - serotonin release to stimulate the intestine (peristalsis)

Keep yourself from being constipated, and serotonin's release will be mitigated, along with endotoxin.

Saturated fat is important to ensure tight-junction integrity.

 

[ATP]

I'm not sure if you've experimented with probiotics for your gut ailment but you might like to give Symprove a try. It's been very effective for me and I've tried it all. Although it only seems to work (and by work I mean less abdominal pain and less mental suffering that accompanies it) if I'm very strict with my diet, which has become nigh on impossible. Cyproheptadine is quite effective too.

As for whether or not there is a common cause?

All of the major literature reviews on IBS from the last few years have basically made the case that 'IBS' is a lazy and unhelpful label to be applying to patients. It is a non-specific umbrella term being employed when there are very specific causes of 'IBS' symptoms which need to be investigated. These symptoms may be similar in presentation but have different causes behind them ranging from low grade inflammation, parasitic infection, dysbiosis, SIBO, gut-brain dysfunction, food allergy and probably a gazillion other things. Doctors shouldn't be handing it out as a diagnosis.

I have experimented with probiotics but that was a couple of years and I feel like there was a slight improvement but it wasn't worth the money I was spending plus there are so many different strains available. I do want to try probiotics again only for the simple fact I've tried almost everything else. I'm just lost for answers and nothing seems to help with the bloating and the pain.

I'm reading a book talking about bad gut issues. Unbalanced intestinal flora and dysbiosis (fermentation)
Extract:
IBS and irritable colon syndrome
This disorder has a prevalence of 12 to 30% in the population and is more common in women than in men, especially after age 50. It is characterized by discomfort or abdominal pain, a disturbed intestinal transit characterized by diarrhea or constipation or a mixture of both, and by some bloating or abdominal distension.

It seems that an overgrowth and / or a change from the types of bacteria in the small intestine, referred to as SIBO (Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome) is responsible for the symptoms of the disease. The disease would be due to an excess of fermentation and gas production in the small intestine.

We have identified foods that disrupt the microbiota (intestinal flora). The microbiome is dominated at + 90% by 3 categories of bacteria: Firmicutes, bacteroidetes and actinobacteria (Bifidobacterium).

The bacteroidetes are especially present in the 1st part of the colon, the firmicutes in part 2.

A change of the microbiota in the elderly, more vulnerable / fragile to autoimmune pathologies and “fouling”. But this is not evidence given the great diversity of the strains. It is estimated that there are 3 factors that come into play to trigger a disease: A genetic weakness and an unfavorable environment (junk food and intestinal permeability). The 3rd factor might be the imbalance of the microbiome. Think of your intestine as your second brain!

NB: When we talk about "Junk Food", think of dysbiosis and low-grade inflammation and see what's troubling your transit and your energy level: Gluten or FOMAP or excess of solanines? Take into account that each person is different...
Hope it will help.

Source and useful information if you read into French:

« Une alimentation ciblée pour préserver ou retrouver la santé de l’intestin ». Jacqueline Lagacée. 10.2106 . Médecin virologue spécialisée en virologie. Retraitée.

" The food to eat for maintaining or regaining a healthy gut. Jacqueline Lagacee. 10.2106. Doctor virologist specialized in virology. Retired.

NB: When we talk about "Junk Food", think about an imbalance in the frequency, quantity and the type of food. The quality is obviously an important factor: devitalized and processed food, full of preservatives and additives. Etc.

If it were SIBO wouldn't all the anitbiotics, charcoal, carrot salad, cirpo, etc, that I have tried at least made a positive change?

 

[ATP]

My personal take is that so many are dealing with chronic gut issues due to genetically modified foods in the marketplace. Plus all the crops being spraying with glyphosate as a pesticide. It's sick what tptb are doing to our food supply. Even with choosing organic food, you have to be concerned with cross contamination. I've mentioned this ad naseum on the forum, but organic sulfur crystals really helped my gut issues.

Is organic sulfur just MSM?

 

[amethyst]

Is organic sulfur just MSM?

no, it's a different form of MSM. Just google organic sulfur crystals. There are several websites that sell it.

 

[Queequeg]

I have experimented with probiotics but that was a couple of years and I feel like there was a slight improvement but it wasn't worth the money I was spending plus there are so many different strains available. I do want to try probiotics again only for the simple fact I've tried almost everything else. I'm just lost for answers and nothing seems to help with the bloating and the pain.


If it were SIBO wouldn't all the anitbiotics, charcoal, carrot salad, cirpo, etc, that I have tried at least made a positive change?

SIBO is very hard to cure for some so all that stuff though good for SIBO may not have been enough. Some people have too completely change their diet in addition to taking antibiotics or herbs. Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes would also be helpful so you don't overfeed the bugs.

 

[ATP]

SIBO is very hard to cure for some so all that stuff though good for SIBO may not have been enough. Some people have too completely change their diet in addition to taking antibiotics or herbs. Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes would also be helpful so you don't overfeed the bugs.

What diet do you think would help whilst trying to fix SIBO?

 

[Queequeg]

What diet do you think would help whilst trying to fix SIBO?

http://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
I think its called FODMAP but I didn't do a lot of reading on it. You may want to have the hydrogen/methane oral test done to be sure it is SIBO before you start doing any of this.

 

[thomas00]

I have experimented with probiotics but that was a couple of years and I feel like there was a slight improvement but it wasn't worth the money I was spending plus there are so many different strains available. I do want to try probiotics again only for the simple fact I've tried almost everything else. I'm just lost for answers and nothing seems to help with the bloating and the pain.

Symprove was definitely very different to any of the other probiotics I've done, and I've taken just about every one available. It's a bit pricey but a lot of people sing it's praises.

If it were SIBO wouldn't all the anitbiotics, charcoal, carrot salad, cirpo, etc, that I have tried at least made a positive change?

Here's a study demonstrating herbal preparations could tackle SIBO just as effectively as antibiotics, and with less side effects

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24891990

I think these are the products:

http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/candibactin-ar

CandiBactin-BR®

 

[ATP]

http://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
I think its called FODMAP but I didn't do a lot of reading on it. You may want to have the hydrogen/methane oral test done to be sure it is SIBO before you start doing any of this.

I tried FODMAP a few years ago, it was a complete waste of time.

Symprove was definitely very different to any of the other probiotics I've done, and I've taken just about every one available. It's a bit pricey but a lot of people sing it's praises.




Here's a study demonstrating herbal preparations could tackle SIBO just as effectively as antibiotics, and with less side effects

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24891990

I think these are the products:

http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/candibactin-ar

CandiBactin-BR®

Symprove seems as though a lot of people have benefited from taking it, at least from I've read so far. I will definitely check it out. Thanks for the suggestion :)

 

[LucH]

If it were SIBO wouldn't all the anitbiotics, charcoal, carrot salad, cirpo, etc, that I have tried at least made a positive change?

Probably not (not to say a firm no).
To solve the problem, or to be relieved (remission), we need to get rid of overgrowth and leaky gut. First try to moderate inflammation, then suppress anti-nutrients (it can vary from one person to the other one).
Try to find information about leaky gut and dysbiosis. Dissociation will help (or enzymes) if you don't digest very well ...
If you suffer from "antigenes", you'll have to find out what makes you react.
Sorry not to be more clear but I don't want to be "fixed" ...
See my previous link (Jacqueline Lagacé).

 

[EIRE24]

Symprove was definitely very different to any of the other probiotics I've done, and I've taken just about every one available. It's a bit pricey but a lot of people sing it's praises.




Here's a study demonstrating herbal preparations could tackle SIBO just as effectively as antibiotics, and with less side effects

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24891990

I think these are the products:

CandiBactin-AR®

CandiBactin-BR®

What herbs exactly helped as good as an antibiotic did?

 

[thomas00]

What herbs exactly helped as good as an antibiotic did?

The two products I posted links to, plus another one I hadn't mentioned. From the study:

...2 capsules twice daily of the following commercial herbal preparations; Dysbiocide and FC Cidal (Biotics Research Laboratories, Rosenberg, Texas) or Candibactin-AR and Candibactin-BR (Metagenics, Inc, Aliso Viejo, California)

 

[ATP]

Probably not (not to say a firm no).
To solve the problem, or to be relieved (remission), we need to get rid of overgrowth and leaky gut. First try to moderate inflammation, then suppress anti-nutrients (it can vary from one person to the other one).
Try to find information about leaky gut and dysbiosis. Dissociation will help (or enzymes) if you don't digest very well ...
If you suffer from "antigenes", you'll have to find out what makes you react.
Sorry not to be more clear but I don't want to be "fixed" ...
See my previous link (Jacqueline Lagacé).

How would you moderate inflammation?
Do you mean antigens as in immune reactions to specific foods or something else? Because I've had tests done with common foods and I don't react to any of them.

Is the book you're reading called, The end of pain by Jacqueline Lagaće?

 

[EIRE24]

The two products I posted links to, plus another one I hadn't mentioned. From the study:

...2 capsules twice daily of the following commercial herbal preparations; Dysbiocide and FC Cidal (Biotics Research Laboratories, Rosenberg, Texas) or Candibactin-AR and Candibactin-BR (Metagenics, Inc, Aliso Viejo, California)

Ah ok, I have never heard of either of these herbs. I guess they would be difficult to obtain.

 

[GAF]

An interesting experiment is to do a fruit diet for a couple months. After a week or two your pooping process will change completely.
Try it, you'll like it.

 

[EIRE24]

An interesting experiment is to do a fruit diet for a couple months. After a week or two your pooping process will change completely.
Try it, you'll like it.

It was actually a fruit diet that ruined my gut. I do much better on starch